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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 14:53 GMT
#1683
On July 29 2015 05:29 Damdred wrote:
Basically only bresh, mages, tt can be scum to me. Noob has an outside shot maybe ruxx.

we lynch mages today

My god that's exactly my brain if you switch noob and breshke.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 15:30 GMT
#1684
On July 29 2015 15:25 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 09:13 disformation wrote:
So Breshke I have a hard time getting where your reads are currently.
Your #1 scum is still MoosyDoosy even with green check?
Your #2 scum was Flexes/Scott? You never really said so, but it is implied in your filter. What do you think of the claim?
Your #3 scum was TT.

If Scott goes uncountered on Day 3, then Breshke's suspect list becomes:

#3 - The guy you people just lynched, who flipped Town
#2 - The Cop
#1 - The Cop's green check

I'm not sure how alignment-indicative that is, but it's too funny for me not to comment on it.

héhé

On July 29 2015 16:36 n00bKing wrote:
Overall: I think Sulfurus is going to remain in my Top 2 suspects, in a game where there are 2 Scum to find.

Can't remember who is your top 1 ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 15:37 GMT
#1686
Alright finished reading EOD2. A few thoughts:

- scott's breadcrumb was siiiick!

- the people instantly switching from scott when he claimed are town I'm pretty sure: TT(-_-), moosy, disfo.

- on the other hand, noobking's position is so weird. A little bit of sceptisism is OK, but saying he's willing to lynch scott over TT 10 minutes before deadline (which would mean NocturneMage is cop BTW) is super suspicious. Plus when I asked him his reasons, he said scott's claim was "illogical" ... WTF

- wow these 3 posts-then-leave by NocturneMage were so scummy. In retrospect, with that + TT immediately switching from scott, we should have lynched him

- Damdred reacting to those 3 posts-then-leave is so town indicative
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 15:38 GMT
#1687
On July 29 2015 06:58 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 06:55 Rels wrote:
On July 29 2015 06:55 Rels wrote:
On July 29 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote:
Would lynch Sulfurus. Would also lynch Mage or Breshke, to save Ticktock. Would not be happy about lynching Scott without a CC, but...might still do it, to save Ticktock. That Night Action appeared by magic.

Can any of these things happen?

Rayn was just called bad to entertain the idea of lynching a UN cc cop. And you would lynch UN cc cop over another player ?

Actually tell me why we should lynch Scott over TT I'm interested.

Because Scott's Cop claim is illogical, and I know Ticktock is Town. Have you not been reading the thread?

Why is scott's cop claim illogical ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 15:39 GMT
#1688
On July 30 2015 00:34 Damdred wrote:
Sometimes I read news posts and I just want to lynch him.

news posts ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 15:46 GMT
#1689
Alright it is not time for cases ... yet. But I will say a bunch of stuff I will reuse later when the time to make cases comes. You can comment or not, there is no accusation at the moment.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 15:50 GMT
#1690
noobking may have TMI slipped
On July 29 2015 06:58 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 06:55 Rels wrote:
On July 29 2015 06:55 Rels wrote:
On July 29 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote:
Would lynch Sulfurus. Would also lynch Mage or Breshke, to save Ticktock. Would not be happy about lynching Scott without a CC, but...might still do it, to save Ticktock. That Night Action appeared by magic.

Can any of these things happen?

Rayn was just called bad to entertain the idea of lynching a UN cc cop. And you would lynch UN cc cop over another player ?

Actually tell me why we should lynch Scott over TT I'm interested.

Because Scott's Cop claim is illogical, and I know Ticktock is Town. Have you not been reading the thread?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 15:55 GMT
#1691
NocturneMage doesn't write much but he sure reads a lot
On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD


It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?

I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking?


A read from a sentence?
What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon?
The timing, his motivation, his meta?

A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for.

I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors.
The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life.
I read you clear as a book.

Your alignment is town.


I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now.

On July 26 2015 04:25 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm back. I am looking through Barakos/Moosy since they are the more debated at the moment.

On July 27 2015 22:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm back and (obviously) catching up.
[...]
First few comments just reading a few filters, so I can understand some arguments better -

On July 27 2015 23:56 NocturneMage wrote:
Looking through Breshke now, I could see him being either alignment.

On July 28 2015 05:44 NocturneMage wrote:
Re-reading the last page, there are few things that are of concern to me.

On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote:
So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.

[...]

Reading a few filters...

On July 29 2015 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
Ahhh okay. I read that quote again, now I see how I misunderstood. That really was confusing.

On July 29 2015 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
Reading through Scott's filter, [...]

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 16:06 GMT
#1692
noobking's explanation on me if cop not checking him is late and makes no sense

noobking said I'm probably not cop, and even if I'm cop I wouldn't check him.
On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:

1
noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.

2
Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill.

Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town).

The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker.

???

I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check.

lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?

I don't understand. You are saying:

- I'm probably not the cop
- On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you

I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part.

He refused to explain to me:
On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:

1
noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.

2
Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill.

Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town).

The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker.

???

I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check.

lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?

I don't understand. You are saying:

- I'm probably not the cop
- On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you

I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part.

HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??

Again,
Show nested quote +
Seriously, your refusal to use reason and common sense is driving me crazy. Just STOP posting for a little while, THINK about what you've just said, and come back later.



Then muuuch later he posted an explanation on why I wouldn't check him if I was cop:
On July 28 2015 04:20 n00bKing wrote:
So, not a lot of motivation for me to still answer ruXxar, when Rels himself is not even trying to push me into a Noose today.

First he said this:
Show nested quote +
Rels wrote: I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it

And then he gave us his latest scum reads, and it looks like this:
Show nested quote +
Rels wrote:
For now my scumteam is Sulfurus + Flexes/scott. Maybe Breshke instead of one of those two.
And if I'm wrong on one those three, mayyyyyyybe MD, TT or NM, though I will really need some rock solid cases to consider voting them.

There's a certain someone by the name of "n00bKing" who doesn't appear anywhere in there.

But I said I would answer ruXxar, so I'll still go ahead and do it.
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:
Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop.

Explain like I'm 5.

Okay, I'm going to try to imagine that ruXxar is 5. ruXxar is 5...let's see if...oh, done! Wow, that was surprisingly easy. Hmm, this kind of explains a lot, actually!

If Rels were the Cop, he would not check me, because during the Night Phase, he posted suggestions to the power roles, and he gave only ONE name to the Cop, and that name was MINE.

Children have wondrous imaginations, so use yours, and put yourself in the shoes of a Rels who is the Cop. Imagine you're the Cop, and during the Night Phase, you suggest who the Cop should target. Imagine you give only one name. Then imagine that you...go ahead and turn in a check on that name.

Did you notice how your brain stopped you and said "No, no, that's stupid"? Okay then.

If it becomes necessary later, I will also be ready to provide additional reasons why people can know that:

1) I can't be Scum
2) Even if I were Scum, my team would never have roleblocked Rels
3) Even if I were Scum, I wouldn't play this way if I was the roleblocker instead of the Godfather (which is what is required, for me to be afraid that Rels is the Cop and will turn in a check on me. Otherwise, I want that check to get turned in.)



I DONT understand how that explain the fact that I wouldn't check him if I was the cop. Can you (yes, you, reading this) read the quote above, then tell me if it made sense to you ? That would be much appreciated.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 16:07 GMT
#1693
On July 30 2015 00:55 Rels wrote:
NocturneMage doesn't write much but he sure reads a lot
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD


It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?

I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking?


A read from a sentence?
What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon?
The timing, his motivation, his meta?

A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for.

I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors.
The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life.
I read you clear as a book.

Your alignment is town.


I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now.

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 04:25 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm back. I am looking through Barakos/Moosy since they are the more debated at the moment.

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 22:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm back and (obviously) catching up.
[...]
First few comments just reading a few filters, so I can understand some arguments better -

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 23:56 NocturneMage wrote:
Looking through Breshke now, I could see him being either alignment.

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 05:44 NocturneMage wrote:
Re-reading the last page, there are few things that are of concern to me.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote:
So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.

[...]

Reading a few filters...

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
Ahhh okay. I read that quote again, now I see how I misunderstood. That really was confusing.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
Reading through Scott's filter, [...]


LOL rereading it I thought I posted the same post two times. "Reading a few filters" should be the new mafia meme.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 16:14 GMT
#1697
On July 30 2015 01:09 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 23:53 Rels wrote:
On July 29 2015 05:29 Damdred wrote:
Basically only bresh, mages, tt can be scum to me. Noob has an outside shot maybe ruxx.

we lynch mages today

My god that's exactly my brain if you switch noob and breshke.

lol @ how amazed you are that you only had to make one (terrible) change, for your list to match with Damdred's. And Moosy's. And mine. And disformation's.

Don't be jaleous I posted it first.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 16:54 GMT
#1703
On July 30 2015 01:27 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 00:37 Rels wrote:
- scott's breadcrumb was siiiick!

Did you fail to notice that it is no less sick if he's Scum than if he's Town? (Probably. Failing to notice stuff has kinda been your thing in this game.)

Didn't think I said it was town indicative. Reading a few filters ... no I didn't.

On July 30 2015 01:27 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 00:37 Rels wrote:- the people instantly switching from scott when he claimed are town I'm pretty sure: TT(-_-), moosy, disfo.

Dumb thing to say, when you've even admitted that Scott's allegiance isn't known, and have told the Vigilante to shoot him. (Which is indeed the correct play for the Vigilante.)

Yeah maybe that's true.

On July 30 2015 01:27 n00bKing wrote:
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On July 30 2015 00:37 Rels wrote:- on the other hand, noobking's position is so weird. A little bit of sceptisism is OK, but saying he's willing to lynch scott over TT 10 minutes before deadline (which would mean NocturneMage is cop BTW) is super suspicious. Plus when I asked him his reasons, he said scott's claim was "illogical" ... WTF

It does NOT mean NocturneMage is the Cop. You are wrong, as usual. Breshke could just as easily be the Cop, as he was afk during that same time-frame. This has already been mentioned before, but you DON'T READ.

And there is NOTHING weird about my position. I said Scott's claim was "illogical" for all of the reasons that it WAS illogical.

It is hilarious (pathetic, but hilarious) that this is like the 5th different time now that you've tried to bash me for having skepticism about Scott's claim.

Yet you don't have A THING to say to this guy:

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##Vote scott31337

There is no way flexes has sent in a check.
Impossible.

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On July 29 2015 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It doesnt make any sense at all.

The dude is in the middle of writing a reads post.
He disappears, as a cop. He never comes back, gets replaced.
BUT HE HAS SOMEHOW SENT IN A COP CHECK?!?!?!

rofl
Show nested quote +

On July 29 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I dont believefor a second scott is cop.

You are allowing your intense bias to blind you every step of the way. Identical behavior from two players, and you jump all over it from one of them, yet have no reservations continuing to consider the other confirmed Town.

LOL you're not reading the posts you're quoting.
On July 30 2015 00:37 Rels wrote:
- on the other hand, noobking's position is so weird. A little bit of sceptisism is OK

So you and rayn doubting scott's claim is good. But you wanna know why this if false ?
On July 30 2015 01:27 n00bKing wrote:
Identical behavior from two players

Here is rayn final answer to the situation:
On July 29 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whatever.
Lets not lynch scott then unless cc.

Here is yours:
On July 29 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote:
Would not be happy about lynching Scott without a CC, but...might still do it, to save Ticktock.



On July 30 2015 01:27 n00bKing wrote:
You are also failing to notice that (just like everything else I've done the entire game) there is NO scum motivation for me to try and get Scott lynched there, even if he's the real Cop. A lynched Cop is not any better for the Mafia than an outed Cop.

This is soooo false. scott if he lives is confirmed town, so he has to be shot or be a confirmed town in LYLO. TT if he lives ... is still suspicious and can be lynched.
Really, what you just said is so bad.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 16:59 GMT
#1705
On July 30 2015 01:36 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 01:06 Rels wrote:
noobking's explanation on me if cop not checking him is late and makes no sense

Actually, it makes PERFECT sense.
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 01:06 Rels wrote:I DONT understand how that explain the fact that I wouldn't check him if I was the cop. Can you (yes, you, reading this) read the quote above, then tell me if it made sense to you ? That would be much appreciated.

And I don't understand how there could possibly be two people on this same Earth (you and ruXxar) who do not understand it. You tried to sit there and expect that people should make sense of your explanations of all your backtracking and double-speak, for how you mistook "VT" to mean "Townie" and how you accidentally said "prepared post" to mean something entirely different, and how it could somehow be plausible that when you say a bunch of remarks are all spontaneous, off-the-cuff reactions, the post that they're in could still be something that the author "thought long and hard before posting." Yet you can't make sense of the simple and basic truth that your posts rule you out as a Cop who would turn in a check on me. It is baffling.

Even if you believe I'm lying, you understand what I'm saying : that I used prepared post for post that is prepared before posting, etc.

In my case, I DON'T understand your reasonning, fake or not.

In your situation, I am cop. I said I would check you. I didn't check you.
And the reason is:
On July 28 2015 04:20 n00bKing wrote:
Children have wondrous imaginations, so use yours, and put yourself in the shoes of a Rels who is the Cop. Imagine you're the Cop, and during the Night Phase, you suggest who the Cop should target. Imagine you give only one name. Then imagine that you...go ahead and turn in a check on that name.

Did you notice how your brain stopped you and said "No, no, that's stupid"? Okay then.

I don't get it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 17:11 GMT
#1707
On July 30 2015 02:09 ruXxar wrote:
Rels is it just us that are stupid?
Maybe I need to go take an IQ test.

Stay strong bro. Dont let them hurt you.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 18:02 GMT
#1711
On July 30 2015 02:32 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 01:54 Rels wrote:
Didn't think I said it was town indicative. Reading a few filters ... no I didn't.

The implication is clear, from you saying that the people switching from Scott when he claimed are Town. Would you like to backtrack and self-contradict on this, too?

LOL.
Of course I think scott is town without CC.
This is NOT what you said though:
On July 30 2015 01:27 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 00:37 Rels wrote:
- scott's breadcrumb was siiiick!

Did you fail to notice that it is no less sick if he's Scum than if he's Town? (Probably. Failing to notice stuff has kinda been your thing in this game.)

You said to me that the breadcrumb didn't make scott town. That is something I NEVER said. So you misrepresentated my position.

On July 30 2015 02:32 n00bKing wrote:
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On July 30 2015 01:54 Rels wrote:LOL you're not reading the posts you're quoting.

Are you reading any posts at all? Except for a short moment of clarity, when you understood that all of your arguments against me were hollow and empty, you have generally shown no awareness of what is going on in the game, whatsoever.

Here was that moment:
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Rels wrote: I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that.

Note that you thinking "Maybe n00bKing is the Cop" does not even BEGIN to explain that post. There were many, many ways for you to know that most of what you had typed up was "nonsense." None of them had anything to do with the possibility of me being Cop. Do not lie to me again, and try to tell me that the only reason you completely backed off of your suspicions of me, was that you thought I might be the Cop.

I wrote a shit case. A few points were good though, but they were all explaind by you being cop. Yes I completely backed off my suspicions of you 'cause I thought you were cop, right here:
On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
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On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:
On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:

1
noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.

2
Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill.

Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town).

The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker.

???

I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check.

lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?

I don't understand. You are saying:

- I'm probably not the cop
- On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you

I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part.

HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??

I still don't get why you are saying this:
- On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you

This is going nowhere. Let's stop here.


On July 30 2015 02:32 n00bKing wrote:
You completely ignored the part of my post where I corrected you, and said that Breshke could also be the real Cop. Why did you lie and say that only NocturneMage could be the real Cop, and then sweep the true and correct situation under the rug? I continue to provide good information for the Town to use, and you continue to obstruct it.

You're fucking right I fucking forgot a part where you lied. Breshke posted this 25 minutes before deadline:
On July 29 2015 06:35 Breshke wrote:
People need to relax this is a newbie gAme without a CC it is possible flexes lied AS TOWN and had nothing when he said he was writing his opinions on people and actually did return during the night.

##unvote
##vote ticktock

So in your post where you said you would lynch scott instead of TT, Breshke couldn't be cop. It was 12 minutes before deadline.
On July 29 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote:
Would not be happy about lynching Scott without a CC, but...might still do it, to save Ticktock.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 18:03 GMT
#1712
On July 30 2015 02:48 n00bKing wrote:
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On July 30 2015 01:59 Rels wrote:
Even if you believe I'm lying, you understand what I'm saying : that I used prepared post for post that is prepared before posting, etc.

Let me clarify yet again. I don't just believe/think/suspect that you're lying. You lied.

Once again you're lying about me lying.
I asked you a sentence explaining how I lied. You wrote it. There were no lie in it.
Liar.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 18:57 GMT
#1717
On July 30 2015 02:48 n00bKing wrote:
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On July 30 2015 01:59 Rels wrote:In your situation, I am cop. I said I would check you. I didn't check you.

As naturally you would not. Common sense.

I don't understand. I will never town read you if I don't understand that.

Alright going diner then sleep so see you tomorrow.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 20:20 GMT
#1761
Wow noobking and moosy are both using credibility attacks on people. Maybe you were right ruxx and that's the team.

Anyway good night all, can't see me dying over rayn so see you tomorrow.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 20:54 GMT
#1766
On July 30 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:No cop would and should waste a check on n00bKing because he is town. Also, it was able to be deduced that scott was cop for reasons that I stated before. n00bKing obviously didn't want to disclose this information so that Mafia would figure it out and he IN FACT warned me when I posted my reasoning for why scott should be town.

You are saying noobking knew scott was cop during D2, before the showdown at EOD.

Confirm ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2015 20:59 GMT
#1767
On July 30 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:n00bKing obviously didn't want to disclose this information so that Mafia would figure it out and he IN FACT warned me when I posted my reasoning for why scott should be town.

When was that ?
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