Lost But Not Forgotten Mini Mafia

On July 18 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
he's probably mafia aswell

his posts feel forced, emote usage is wrong,
didn't respond to me but instead just disappeared complaining about the game.

##Vote plotspot

On July 18 2015 14:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait how can anything I said be considered angry?

On July 18 2015 18:09 yamato77 wrote:
I also think onegu is leaning town

On July 18 2015 18:18 yamato77 wrote:

it's early in this game and there aren't many posts overall

onegu has been fairly active early in this game, however trollish he has been

On July 18 2015 18:22 yamato77 wrote:

so if he plays early D1 he's mafia?

it is almost certainly bad meta

On July 18 2015 08:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi guys

What's a scut? Fecalfeast is your id picked from an awesome band or....? Too scared to google it.

On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even.

kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me.

On July 18 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yamato is town because there is a clarly seen thought process behind his posting. Imo his posts as mafia lack that. It's hard to explain. I'll elaborate further in case people think he is mafia when i get home in ~10h.

On July 18 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
I propose a policy lynch of plotspot

On July 18 2015 08:31 yamato77 wrote:
I still want to lynch plotspot.

On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.

On July 18 2015 18:09 yamato77 wrote:
rayn could be town

On July 18 2015 18:09 yamato77 wrote:
damdred almost certainly is btw

I also think onegu is leaning town

On July 18 2015 18:18 yamato77 wrote:

it's early in this game and there aren't many posts overall

onegu has been fairly active early in this game, however trollish he has been

On July 18 2015 18:22 yamato77 wrote:

so if he plays early D1 he's mafia?

it is almost certainly bad meta

On July 18 2015 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will when i am actually able to quote posts and posting does not take forever.

On July 18 2015 18:41 plotspot wrote:


To clarify on this. I simply meant that the game is slower than I anticipated, people reserving their thoughts or are simply not there at that moment, and I really didn't look at the thread anymore after this post, I didn't know it picked up some activity. About the forced emotes, it's just the way it is, I sometimes put them there if I feel like, I wouldn't interpret too much into it. XD ^^ XD ^^



A bit a strange but here are my chain of thoughts after yamato suggests a policy lynch so early. "what does such an early suggestion bring? Is he asking for information? what is it based on? Is it based on the vanilla cop claim? what does it bring town if they policy-lynch wrongly? Who else was wrongly lynched? Ah jesus was kinda lynched wrongly, and some people knew it, but couldn't do anything about it.

Really if it's too confusing, ignore it. After 3 games, I kinda noticed I have this natural tendency to confuse people, because I think a lot but only post the "end thought". I try to improve that, but it's probably still gonna be difficult.

On July 19 2015 03:48 geript wrote:

Like this is basic reading comprehension. How can he get that I'm trying to say that Yam's post was not short/assholey? Like me using the word more literally means that I found the post lacking an amount of shortness/assholery that town yam levels usually are.

Then he's trying to make the point that the post is short/assholey but I'm not reading it that way. Like I've been really fucking clear about this.

On July 19 2015 04:30 Onegu wrote:
Also people scum reading me for activity are dumb. There is a reason why I would try harder this game even though I rolled VT.

On July 19 2015 17:35 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm very sorry for the 24 hour absence. I'll be here in the morning. I've spent the last twelve hours in the animal hospital with my dog. She's very sick and very young. It shouldn't impair my gameplay much more but I'm ten pages behind.

On July 20 2015 01:18 Damdred wrote:

So what's your read on Geript exactly

On July 20 2015 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is not mafia.
Damdred is and yuo should all sheep me.

On July 18 2015 18:39 Rels wrote:

I don't understand this sentence. Are you town or scum reading his "relaxed" posts ?

On July 20 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
damdred is mafia because he has no real scumreads.
He thinks geript is town but has no incentive to save geript.
He doesn't even comment on geript's scumreads (one of me/JonnyLaw being scum).
Trust me on this the dude is scum.

On July 20 2015 01:28 Damdred wrote:


So you give him more town points for the talking than the contradiction that's interesting. I'm not sure it's a contradiction necessarily meh.

What do you think of rayn and why johnny

On July 20 2015 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

go read the last couple of pages.
it is all there, when geript started posting.

On July 20 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i won't.
can you quote a single post where damdred pushes any other lynch?

On July 19 2015 23:05 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we lynch Johnny or ff here instead big Geript if you want but if he's town (which I think,he is) get as many reads as we can.

While,Johnny hasn't done anything, and ff is interesting.

Ff to an extent isn't doing work and doesn't really push anything just kind of oh the side line not doing anything.

On July 18 2015 08:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi guys

What's a scut? Fecalfeast is your id picked from an awesome band or....? Too scared to google it.

On July 18 2015 08:18 JonnyLaw wrote:
and man, ksc you're so angry out the door.

On July 18 2015 17:29 JonnyLaw wrote:
what are you seeing that makes Yamato town?

geript's posted twice and both posts are calling people scum with no backing. making me nervous geript.

On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even.

kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me.

On July 19 2015 17:35 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm very sorry for the 24 hour absence. I'll be here in the morning. I've spent the last twelve hours in the animal hospital with my dog. She's very sick and very young. It shouldn't impair my gameplay much more but I'm ten pages behind.

On July 20 2015 02:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
@rels when i said he feels relaxed someone was accusing him of being scum for using "weird smilies."

On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even.

On July 20 2015 02:50 Rels wrote:

Wait I don't understand. Can you confirm you're saying this sentence:



was to defend FF against someone accusing him of being scum for using "weird smilies" ?

On July 20 2015 03:04 JonnyLaw wrote:
oh uhh...sure I don't know what I was thinking there to be honest. I was writing a quick post before I passed out after a late night. Apparently it's what I felt at that particular moment. We can debate this one line if that's what you want but I'd rather talk about someone important.

On July 20 2015 02:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
I didn't say he was town I thought the "weird smilies" was just someone posting like they'd text or chat in a game. do you really have an idea what's going on that early in the game based on fucking smilies?

On July 20 2015 03:09 Onegu wrote:



I forget shit I posted all the time as town...

On July 20 2015 04:38 KelsierSC wrote:


what are you talking about, my case is still the same, the only thing that changed is that geript hadn't actually answered the case against him but instead went ahead and called me scum.

I'm questioning someone I think is mafia so please if you have nothing to add apart from "it's a bad case" with no reasons why. then let me get on with it.

On July 20 2015 04:16 geript wrote:
Then grab a dictionary and read what the words mean especially as it regards the context I used them in. Because short can mean brief, the opposite of tall or rude/curt among other things. More is an adjective that enumerates a larger amount. So when I say she is more short and assholey as town. And that I'm not reading her town. That does not mean that she's not being rude/jerk/short/assholey. It means that she is not being those thing as much as she would be as town. It's literally the English language and how it works. DO YOU SPEAK IT??????????

On July 20 2015 04:54 geript wrote:

I could. Or you could read what I actually wrote instead of sit on the sidelines like mafia the whole game long.

On July 20 2015 05:06 KelsierSC wrote:


I mean.. I thought you did understand it

On July 20 2015 05:06 KelsierSC wrote:


1.geript gave his scum read on yamato and a vote. reason "yamato is short/ a dick when he is town"
he makes it clear than in the post i quoted he thinks yamato is being longer winded and not that much of an ass.

2. however before yamato even made that post geript had called yamato mafia, until that point yamato had only made two short/asshole posts about plotspot. so this reasoning made no sense.

On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.

On July 20 2015 05:17 KelsierSC wrote:


no geript gave a scum list that had yam as mafia on it

On July 18 2015 11:07 geript wrote:
I want to lynch Onegu or yam... maybe kelsier

On July 20 2015 05:33 Fecalfeast wrote:

what

jonnylaw (4): Rels, Damdred, Fecalfeast, geript, geript

if he's mafia it means that he is being bused?

What do you mean?

On July 20 2015 05:41 geript wrote:
Because some of the things you guys say are just flat out not connected with reality. At least with Kelsier, he could theoretically just be reading things and inserting words/phrases so they instantly make the understanding different. Potentially. Probably not. But it is a theoretical understandable potential option. But consensus on JLaw? There's 4 votes on him and he's not even my preferred lynch.

On July 20 2015 03:24 Rels wrote:
OK there it is.

Why I think JonnyLaw is mafia: an event timeline

One
Early in the game, JonnyLaw makes a comment on FecalFeast being relaxed.
+ Show Spoiler +

Two
Wanting to know more, I ask why he posted this.
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Three
His explanation is the following: JonnyLaw posted to defend FecalFeast against someone saying that FecalFeast was doing "weird smilies".
This explanation is false, as the one being accused of doing "weird smilies" was plotspot.
+ Show Spoiler +

Forth
When I ask Jonny to confirm that explanation, he backs off and abandon his previous explanation.
+ Show Spoiler +

Conclusion
The problem here isn't that he made a sentence without explanation. Lots of people here have posted "tone reads" or stuff like that.
The problem is that he made up a false explanation, then gave it up when asked to confirm it.

On July 20 2015 03:27 KelsierSC wrote:


This is a pretty good case actually.

I'm reading his post again where he ends up voting geript.

On July 20 2015 05:05 Onegu wrote:



LOL Yamato confirmed female.


Kinda Meh on him, he isnt the lynch today.

Could get behind a Johnny lynch but think rayn is a much better lynch at this point.

On July 19 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne why i read JohnnyLaw as town is because he kinda attacks geript (and only geript) in his posts.
If they were both mafia he sure would have something else to talk about.
If he was mafia and geript was town well... he sure would have something else to talk about. Attacking geript is like really dumb at this point, over basically nothing.

On July 20 2015 17:37 Fecalfeast wrote:

rels what do you mean that rayn called the geript lynch too good to be true?

On July 20 2015 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
there is no way geript is mafia and none of his team isn't doing anything to save him.
so he has to be town and mafia doesn't give a fuck who (geript at the time) we are lynching.

On July 21 2015 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh no Damdred. It actually makes no sense for FF to be mafia.
Based on the votes and the timing geript would be more likely to be mafia.

At the time FF jumped on JL geript was still pursuing other lynches. There is a really good reason for FF to in fact go with geript against the world because if geript gets support it's more likely he will yell his lynch through over you & Rels.

On July 21 2015 04:22 geript wrote:
I disagree. I see newer mafia attack things they think look like scumslips all the time. And his first two attacks on JL are pretty odd.

On July 18 2015 18:36 Rels wrote:
@People still in this thread (yamato and rayn).

Do you find this first post forced ?

On July 18 2015 18:39 Rels wrote:

I don't understand this sentence. Are you town or scum reading his "relaxed" posts ?

On July 21 2015 04:37 geript wrote:

The first more than the second. The second has some obvious wording that catches the eye.

On July 21 2015 05:12 Onegu wrote:
onegu is here and like how you guys go on about how only one and most likely zero scum were on the JL wagon is so bad. Like looking back on it he was a good bus target.

Like rels is the only really townie guy on there.

On July 21 2015 05:39 Onegu wrote:



Then look bad when JL does get lynched?

FF/VA look the worst on the wagon btw.

On July 21 2015 06:09 Damdred wrote:
Like I would rather Yamato not be shot at all and like oneg or someone else shot just a feeling though

On July 21 2015 21:16 plotspot wrote:
Nah, I concede, It’s difficult enough for me to scumhunt D1, now I actually have to make them up? Sorry, I’m not there yet. Lol and I hate lying, maybe I will if I can summarize lying into a greater concept.
And yeah rayn, while your reasons for scumreading me are good, it’s still only because I suck as town. D1 was my genuine towngame (and some people read it like that), because I only checked my role at the beginning of N1. That’s the reason why I didn’t know whether jonny was town or mafia, and really struggled with voting for him or not. I also honestly thought FF could be mafia, well not now anymore. I was thinking scumreading him, but no it’s stupid, I won’t do that.
The game you read where I had the chart thing, it was also D1 blind. I could have been mafia there too. The chart thing didn’t matter.^^. I guess Kelsier who cohosted this game with cakepie, never knew about it?
I just wanted to see what you guys will post for a while, but it’s kinda dead so yeah. Sorry I wanted to make it a bit more entertaining for you guys, but I guess it’s quite settled that you will win anyway so you are rather bored by it. It’s ok. I just thought I give you guys some time to “think” about stuff some more.XD
I think it was my fault, why this mafia game went to crap. I was never there D1. Jonny has 1 “hi”. Milo had one “hello” after 36 hours into D1. If they came here and say they lost motivation and didn’t see the chance to win because we lacked coordination for I was never there, I’d accept it.
Hmm anything else? I thought geript was funny. Lol scumato. FF was really scummy and yet so townish in his own way, I felt sorry. Suppose I was town, I could really go on, and I think I would have failed that reaction test by Kelsier, because I tend to stay back and analyze first even as town, because we still had so much time and so much things were going on.
I hope Jonny’s dog is fine, I love dogs too.
Yeah, sorry if you guys felt underwhelmed by this game. Lots of stuff came together.^^

On July 21 2015 21:52 plotspot wrote:


It's actually 3.^^
Not sure, it's interesting. Presume I play blind and I play it perfectly, than it will come down to me scumreading myself if I was scum, because of PoE right? This game I really had most towns as town reads, maybe not Kelsier and ff because they were a bit strange.
Bur for example if I was scum and actually lynched another scum on D1, then find out about it N1, I basically have some town creds. If I had enough guts to point fingers and townies with actually another partner still alive and supporting, I think it's still no problem.
If I die as scum on D1 with that sort of play, the benefit would be that there is no connection established between me and my other scum mates. Also this means my town-game sucked and I got lynched D1. Fine too. Improve next time.
The thing is 75% of the time I should roll as town and whether I play a towngame as town or not knowing my role, it should be the same. 25% when I roll scum, the situation is still not lost as I decribed above, there are advantages and disadvantages, it totally depends on the scumteam too, like you see in this situation.
I'm not sure whether they were disheartened or were simply absent for some reason.
I think I'll definitely try this in a next game too, it will be interesting to see how people react to it too, when they actually know or suspect that I actually do this stuff. Like what would you do to a guy who doesn't know his role? Policy lynch him? As town you'd think "ok this guy is definitely helping town with scumhunting here, but it obviously depends on how good he is at it, and then he could be still scum 25% of the time, do I wait and someone cop-check hims later or what?" Many options. As scum you'd think "ok, I know definitely this guys is town. Do we get rid of him and slowly push a policy lynch on him, would that not make us suspicious? Is he any good as town? Should we let him live and push a lynch later?" or they go "ok this guy is stupid, he is scum, but doesn't come here, we have to decide what we do with him, not that he busses us without knowing, is he smart enough to scumread us?"
I could go on with this but it's just so many things. I was actually intending to continue playing in the dark. But the whole milo thing and that I basically read almost everyone town kinda makes think I might be scum here, and so it was.^^

On July 21 2015 22:11 plotspot wrote:


nah you'll see why I believe Kels is cop.^^

On July 21 2015 22:27 plotspot wrote:
lol Rels, you're actually not supposed to enter the thread like this. It could be a fake-concede.^^

On July 22 2015 04:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
See damdred, 2 mafia down before night 2 means the game usually just works it self out

On July 22 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:


haha after i saw the mafia qt had like 1 post i knew this game would end in like 1 night and didn't write anything