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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:09 GMT
#460
On July 20 2015 01:54 geript wrote:
Or we can just lynch Kelsier for his stupidity. Basic run down of analogous conversation:

Geript: "Yam is mafia for not being able to strong enough to bench 300"
Kelsier: "So you're saying Yam is weak"
Geript: "English motherfucker. Do you speak it?"
Kelsier: "So Yam benching 200 makes him not strong?"
Geript: "ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT??????"
Kelsier: "Geript clearly maf."

Everything else is basically random inane pushes in the most god awful way.


that isn't what happened

thanks for being incredibly rude to me though, it makes me feel better about lynching you
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:22 GMT
#466
geript appears not to want to actually answer my questions but instead hurl insults at me and call me mentally handicapped.

Again where is the response that yamato gives to you or his response to your vote because I don't see it?

If someone wants to actually answer the case I raised against him and tell me why it's wrong and why you are not voting for him I would be interested, "uh i have a town read" does not count as a reason.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:27 GMT
#473
On July 20 2015 03:24 Rels wrote:
OK there it is.

Why I think JonnyLaw is mafia: an event timeline

One
Early in the game, JonnyLaw makes a comment on FecalFeast being relaxed.
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On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even.

kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me.



Two
Wanting to know more, I ask why he posted this.
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On July 18 2015 18:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even.

kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me.

I don't understand this sentence. Are you town or scum reading his "relaxed" posts ?



Three
His explanation is the following: JonnyLaw posted to defend FecalFeast against someone saying that FecalFeast was doing "weird smilies".
This explanation is false, as the one being accused of doing "weird smilies" was plotspot.
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On July 20 2015 02:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
@rels when i said he feels relaxed someone was accusing him of being scum for using "weird smilies." is this really a thing? i thought he just posted whatever he wanted since it was a couple hours into day 1 at the time.



Forth
When I ask Jonny to confirm that explanation, he backs off and abandon his previous explanation.
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On July 20 2015 03:04 JonnyLaw wrote:
oh uhh...sure I don't know what I was thinking there to be honest. I was writing a quick post before I passed out after a late night. Apparently it's what I felt at that particular moment. We can debate this one line if that's what you want but I'd rather talk about someone important.



Conclusion
The problem here isn't that he made a sentence without explanation. Lots of people here have posted "tone reads" or stuff like that.
The problem is that he made up a false explanation, then gave it up when asked to confirm it.


This is a pretty good case actually.

I'm reading his post again where he ends up voting geript.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:30 GMT
#475
On July 20 2015 03:25 plotspot wrote:
In the spoilers are basically the summary of notable events to me from p18 to 23.

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Damdred
0. pushing off a lynch on Geript and suggests Jonny or FF.
3. doesn’t want to lynch yamato
5. wants to consider lynching rayn,
14. reinforces reason on why ff is mafia

Geript:
1. wants to lynch yamato, accusing him all sort of stuff, (yamato is a girl? ok), 2. wants to lynch Rayn for doing less than he could as town, basically much from the meta-soup,
4. wants to lynch Kelsier for asking stupid questions and being stupid in general
6. thinks either Rayn or jonny is mafia.
7. back to the circle of lynching among yamato/Rayn/Kelsier
8. (geript never thought of ff as scum, rather town)
9. add Onegu to the circle of possible mafia
20. more yamato

Vayne:
10. thinks Onegu might be scum
11. 50/50 on jonny
12. ff looks town
18. Damdred is town

Rels:
13. thinks geript is town
XX. votes jonny

Rayn:
15. votes Damdred
16. geript is town
17. Onegu might be scum
19. explains why Damdred is scum

Yamato:
21. geript is mafia
22. Rayn and damdred both probably town


It kinda boils down to

Damdred, geript VS Rayn, Kelsier

I am still thinking which side makes more sense.

@geript: would be nice if you could provide the reasons why there is one town/mafia between Rayn and Jonny.



I've thought damdred was town the whole game
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:36 GMT
#477
On July 20 2015 03:04 JonnyLaw wrote:
oh uhh...sure I don't know what I was thinking there to be honest. I was writing a quick post before I passed out after a late night. Apparently it's what I felt at that particular moment. We can debate this one line if that's what you want but I'd rather talk about someone important.

I want to know where geript's tunneled idea comes from that either rayn OR I have to be scum. Checking now, but as far as I recall he's picking out two players who didn't interact in the thread and calling one of them scum. it feels like a ploy, i mean like a set up play to divert attention.

Think this way. "i'm going into this game with this plan to keep town focused on two people." that's not town behavior. It's a way to get town lynched, possibly two of them. this keeps the town distracted when one of them flips green. brilliant but i'm not digging it geript.

##vote geript


geript has made that point about rayn and yourself. But he has also talked about yamato and wanting to lynch me so he isn't trying to keep town focused.

that point about you is enough to make you vote geript or did you read my case aswell?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:37 GMT
#478
On July 20 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Rels make sure you vote for jonny.

Kel as stubborn as you are, tell keywords the vote on,Geript doesn't look,horrible by jonny


i'm trying to figure him out right now.

I don't think im being particularly stubborn, again there has been no refutation to my case and geript refuses to answer questions but instead says horrible things about me so I have no reason to change my read right now,
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:42 GMT
#480
On July 20 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 03:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Rels make sure you vote for jonny.

Kel as stubborn as you are, tell keywords the vote on,Geript doesn't look,horrible by jonny


i'm trying to figure him out right now.

I don't think im being particularly stubborn, again there has been no refutation to my case and geript refuses to answer questions but instead says horrible things about me so I have no reason to change my read right now,


And tell me how that's good mafia play by geript? In assassination when you were heavily suspicious of him didn't he bend,over backwards to get you off his back? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me do Geript as scum to basically say f you I think,x y z is scum.


geript wasn't in that game.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:44 GMT
#481
On July 20 2015 03:42 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Rels make sure you vote for jonny.

Kel as stubborn as you are, tell keywords the vote on,Geript doesn't look,horrible by jonny


i'm trying to figure him out right now.

I don't think im being particularly stubborn, again there has been no refutation to my case and geript refuses to answer questions but instead says horrible things about me so I have no reason to change my read right now,


And tell me how that's good mafia play by geript? In assassination when you were heavily suspicious of him didn't he bend,over backwards to get you off his back? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me do Geript as scum to basically say f you I think,x y z is scum.


geript wasn't in that game.



additionally I am presenting a clear case here with evidence from this game, so "look how he behaved in this game X months ago" does not hold much sway with me.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:47 GMT
#485
On July 20 2015 03:46 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Rels make sure you vote for jonny.

Kel as stubborn as you are, tell keywords the vote on,Geript doesn't look,horrible by jonny


i'm trying to figure him out right now.

I don't think im being particularly stubborn, again there has been no refutation to my case and geript refuses to answer questions but instead says horrible things about me so I have no reason to change my read right now,


And tell me how that's good mafia play by geript? In assassination when you were heavily suspicious of him didn't he bend,over backwards to get you off his back? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me do Geript as scum to basically say f you I think,x y z is scum.


geript wasn't in that game.



additionally I am presenting a clear case here with evidence from this game, so "look how he behaved in this game X months ago" does not hold much sway with me.


That's to bad the,because what you are saying doesn't make him,scum at all just dick town


so you didn't even read the case against him then

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 18:54 GMT
#488
On July 20 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
No I just think,it'd a bad case. Where Geript doesn't care. And I see no mafia motivation in what he's doing

My reads are clear plot, Kel is dumb town. Geript also thinks rayn is town


why is it a bad case?

I actually think my case against geript is well thought out, so calling me "dumb" is ridiculous.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:00 GMT
#490
On July 20 2015 03:59 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
No I just think,it'd a bad case. Where Geript doesn't care. And I see no mafia motivation in what he's doing

My reads are clear plot, Kel is dumb town. Geript also thinks rayn is town


why is it a bad case?

I actually think my case against geript is well thought out, so calling me "dumb" is ridiculous.

Mafia struggle to make good cases. And I was right about my points on your worthless original push. So get rekt mafia.


you didn't respond to the case at all you just said that i asked stupid questions and called me mafia for it.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:05 GMT
#493
On July 19 2015 03:52 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 03:48 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Like this is basic reading comprehension. How can he get that I'm trying to say that Yam's post was not short/assholey? Like me using the word more literally means that I found the post lacking an amount of shortness/assholery that town yam levels usually are.
On July 19 2015 03:38 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:09 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
[quote]
He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Please read


i'm asking you a question so just answer it rather than dodge

I'm telling you that you're asking a retarded question that would be answered by basic reading comprehension.


just humour me and answer the question,

How can it be not short/assholey when the point I'm making is that he's more short/assholey as town?


right but i am curious how you read that post as anything but short or being an asshole.

Then he's trying to make the point that the post is short/assholey but I'm not reading it that way. Like I've been really fucking clear about this.


i was wanting you to really explain how that post made you read yam as mafia because

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 11:07 geript wrote:
I want to lynch Onegu or yam... maybe kelsier


Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you had yamato as mafia before that post even happened.

so you say he is town when he is short and dickish, but essentially you first mafia read him for these posts.

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
I propose a policy lynch of plotspot


Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 08:31 yamato77 wrote:
I still want to lynch plotspot.


where clearly he is being long-winded mafia? =)





On July 19 2015 04:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 04:12 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 19 2015 04:03 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:58 geript wrote:
Kelsier confirmed taking all of my arguments and twisting them.

idk his argument looks pretty solid to me. so you would probably want to elaborate, and be precise which you have lacked so far.

Also you need to tell me how on earth a townie comes to conclusion "one of JohnnyLaw/rayn is mafia" based on what has happened in the game.

1. Because your townread on him is complete shit.
2. There's a good reason think each one of you is mafia.
3. How you've addressed him is exceptionally unlikely to make it that you two are aligned.

no, this read is shit.
like is your read on yamato and kelsier.

Nope it's not. People seem to be happy to let everyone be fine with townreads on Johnny. But he has done basically nothing to be townread; and anyone who's townreading him is doing so awfully. So when that continues, it's generally because the guy is mafia. Yet you haven't cared about the fact that I'm not townreading Johnny whatsoever. You haven't even bothered with it. Plus the reasoning that I quoted is shit. Quite often as mafia, you call people town to look good for awful reasons. Just so that you can emulate your townplay. You could be not wanting to bus, but I find that unlikely.

Second, you've failed to go through and actually analyze the argument I'm making and Kelsier is making. Like if you followed the thread in context, you'd understand the point I've made. It's not me taking things out of context whatsoever. Rather, Kelsier has continued to ask stupid questions and try to make points that are literally not following any reality in the thread. For example, he's quoted the post where Yam responded to me, and yet as asked where Yam responded to me. He's constantly asked why I don't find his posts to be short/assholey. Yet my wording has specifically and clearly pointed out that I find them short/assholey. Rather the point I've been making is that Yam doesn't feel short/assholey enough; that as town, he's usually more prone to being extra dumb/short/assholey. Which is why I'm thinking he might be town considering his follow up. But Kelsier isn't actually trying to think about what I've said. He's just trying to be active.


yam didn't respond to you , he was saying you would be a good lynch.

You have mentioned his response to you, and to your vote. where is this?

The reason I had to ask constantly was because it was important to establish the timeline. You stated that you thought yamato was mafia for being "not short/not an asshole".

This didn't ring right in my head so I checked the timeline and I asked you specifically about that post.
you confirmed that the post i quoted led you to believe that yamato was mafia.
But as I pointed out you had yamato as mafia before he even posted that. It was for two short posts about plynching plotspot. which goes against your reasoning

I don't have to convince you that you're mafia, I just have to convince town.


posted again so people actually read this and can think clearly without other people trying to disrupt the game.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:07 GMT
#494
On July 20 2015 04:04 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 04:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:59 geript wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
No I just think,it'd a bad case. Where Geript doesn't care. And I see no mafia motivation in what he's doing

My reads are clear plot, Kel is dumb town. Geript also thinks rayn is town


why is it a bad case?

I actually think my case against geript is well thought out, so calling me "dumb" is ridiculous.

Mafia struggle to make good cases. And I was right about my points on your worthless original push. So get rekt mafia.


you didn't respond to the case at all you just said that i asked stupid questions and called me mafia for it.


So I correctly stated your alignment and what you were doing. And I've correctly pointed out an EXACT conversation that is a homolog so that people can see it if they read back. So how does that make me wrong again mafia?


you have tried to muddy the waters , personally insult me and deliberately change the conversation because my case is correct.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:10 GMT
#496
On July 20 2015 04:09 geript wrote:
Perhaps if you weren't mafia you'd be able to understand the meaning of the words "short" and "more".


i'm not sure what you are talking about here
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:16 GMT
#497
I want johnny and damdred to respond

i've made my case.
read it, comment etc.

give some input
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:16 GMT
#498
that goes to town as a whole
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:29 GMT
#505
On July 20 2015 04:16 geript wrote:
Then grab a dictionary and read what the words mean especially as it regards the context I used them in. Because short can mean brief, the opposite of tall or rude/curt among other things. More is an adjective that enumerates a larger amount. So when I say she is more short and assholey as town. And that I'm not reading her town. That does not mean that she's not being rude/jerk/short/assholey. It means that she is not being those thing as much as she would be as town. It's literally the English language and how it works. DO YOU SPEAK IT??????????


The case I made is that you claimed to be scum reading yamato over the post I quoted, yet in your timeline you had yamato as mafia before this for two short asshole posts.
So what you are claiming is you expected him to make more of the shorter posts and that just the two you saw weren't enough?
What do you mean by you didn't like yamato's response to you and your vote because I didn't see him say anything to you at all.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:31 GMT
#506
On July 20 2015 04:22 Damdred wrote:
Both of you stop being assholes and vote for mafia jonny.

Your confirmation biased at this point Kel.

You are omgus biased Geript.

Her over it and vote jonny


i'm actually asking fair questions and not insulting anyone so i don't know why you feel the need to traffic cop this.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:38 GMT
#508
On July 20 2015 04:34 Damdred wrote:
You are trapped in a narrative and can't explain to me how anything I brought up has scum motivation behind it.

You are stuck in the narrative and everything that happens you aren't looking at it and trying to,'re evaluate even when your town reads are saying Geript is probably town


what are you talking about, my case is still the same, the only thing that changed is that geript hadn't actually answered the case against him but instead went ahead and called me scum.

I'm questioning someone I think is mafia so please if you have nothing to add apart from "it's a bad case" with no reasons why. then let me get on with it.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 19:54 GMT
#514
On July 20 2015 04:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 04:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 20 2015 04:16 geript wrote:
Then grab a dictionary and read what the words mean especially as it regards the context I used them in. Because short can mean brief, the opposite of tall or rude/curt among other things. More is an adjective that enumerates a larger amount. So when I say she is more short and assholey as town. And that I'm not reading her town. That does not mean that she's not being rude/jerk/short/assholey. It means that she is not being those thing as much as she would be as town. It's literally the English language and how it works. DO YOU SPEAK IT??????????


The case I made is that you claimed to be scum reading yamato over the post I quoted, yet in your timeline you had yamato as mafia before this for two short asshole posts.
So what you are claiming is you expected him to make more of the shorter posts and that just the two you saw weren't enough?
What do you mean by you didn't like yamato's response to you and your vote because I didn't see him say anything to you at all.

No. Please continue to be wrong Mr Mafia. The post you quoted was why I continued to scum read him.


ok so before that post you were scum reading him

your reason for scum reading him is because as town he makes short/asshole posts.

Before the one i quoted he only had those two short posts about plotspot.
so you're saying you thought he would have made more of those shorter posts ?
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