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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 17:34 GMT
#232
On July 19 2015 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 02:31 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne can you go read the argument i had with Damdred and tell me what you think about it and his read on FF?
Kelsier for some reason doesn't give a fuck.


I think the problem is you are treating it like Damdred has given a big case on FF and is calling him scum trying to get him lynched. Whereas Damdred has a scum lean and gave his reasons for it. So asking him to "find proof in the thread" etc. is unreasonable

rofl.
just look at what you are posting?!?!


you posted this

On July 19 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 19 2015 01:30 Damdred wrote:
Actually stop being dumb rayn everything that I posted did happen.

1) FF did in fact basically say I want to get all my one page over. Then complained about it being totally fluff, or that he hoped it wouldn't be -shrug-
2) Tonr wise he does sound perturbed or angry that he had to ask about that part of my post when I found it interesting nobody even asked.
3) You are obviously not reading if you can't see I had to pry ff to interact on the point of oneg basically.

The funny thing is that most of this stuff I pointed out BEFORE you initially town read me. And the cases don't look anything alike since I don't have a case but a slight lean I was explaining.

You actually never said any of those things.
The conversation you had with FF about Onegu - well FF comes out of it MUCH better looking than you do, because what he said is right. You somehow managed to turn it into "I had to pry ff to interact" when YOU were the one that bailed out of the conversation for whatever reason.

Your point (1) is really dumb. It just is. Because it is not alignment indicative in any way, and you should know it.

Your point (2) is fluff. That's how you interpret his posting. It doesn't make it true, because you can always say "X sounds [insert any word here]". You can interpret people's "tone" however you want and noone can say anything about it because you COULD actually think that.

Furthermore you show no actual proof from the thread that makes FF mafia. Literally none. Like can i say here "you sound awfully angry Damdred, that probably makes you mafia"?? Because you do, however i do not think it's alignment indicative, but as per your definition that should make you mafia, no?


which is you asking to damdred to "support a case" when in fact Damdred is given a scum lean.
your response is disproportionate.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 17:41 GMT
#239
On July 19 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 02:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:31 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne can you go read the argument i had with Damdred and tell me what you think about it and his read on FF?
Kelsier for some reason doesn't give a fuck.


I think the problem is you are treating it like Damdred has given a big case on FF and is calling him scum trying to get him lynched. Whereas Damdred has a scum lean and gave his reasons for it. So asking him to "find proof in the thread" etc. is unreasonable

rofl.
just look at what you are posting?!?!


you posted this

On July 19 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 19 2015 01:30 Damdred wrote:
Actually stop being dumb rayn everything that I posted did happen.

1) FF did in fact basically say I want to get all my one page over. Then complained about it being totally fluff, or that he hoped it wouldn't be -shrug-
2) Tonr wise he does sound perturbed or angry that he had to ask about that part of my post when I found it interesting nobody even asked.
3) You are obviously not reading if you can't see I had to pry ff to interact on the point of oneg basically.

The funny thing is that most of this stuff I pointed out BEFORE you initially town read me. And the cases don't look anything alike since I don't have a case but a slight lean I was explaining.

You actually never said any of those things.
The conversation you had with FF about Onegu - well FF comes out of it MUCH better looking than you do, because what he said is right. You somehow managed to turn it into "I had to pry ff to interact" when YOU were the one that bailed out of the conversation for whatever reason.

Your point (1) is really dumb. It just is. Because it is not alignment indicative in any way, and you should know it.

Your point (2) is fluff. That's how you interpret his posting. It doesn't make it true, because you can always say "X sounds [insert any word here]". You can interpret people's "tone" however you want and noone can say anything about it because you COULD actually think that.

Furthermore you show no actual proof from the thread that makes FF mafia. Literally none. Like can i say here "you sound awfully angry Damdred, that probably makes you mafia"?? Because you do, however i do not think it's alignment indicative, but as per your definition that should make you mafia, no?


which is you asking to damdred to "support a case" when in fact Damdred is given a scum lean.
your response is disproportionate.

If you think someone might be mafia you have something to support your read.
These reads comes from what people post in the thread, NOWHERE else.

Like what the fucking fuck, i am soon getting angry here. Because you are being really obtuse and saying something that makes zero fucking sense.



it's pretty clear the scumlean damdred had is based on his conversation with fecal feast. Just read it, I don't really see how you want someone to "prove" a scum lean.
Again you are trying to attack this like damdred has made a big case on ff being mafia which just isn't what happened.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 17:47 GMT
#242
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:03 GMT
#246
@geript, can you answer the above question.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:07 GMT
#250
On July 19 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Please read


i'm asking you a question so just answer it rather than dodge
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#254
On July 19 2015 03:09 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Please read


i'm asking you a question so just answer it rather than dodge

I'm telling you that you're asking a retarded question that would be answered by basic reading comprehension.


just humour me and answer the question,
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:38 GMT
#263
On July 19 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:09 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Please read


i'm asking you a question so just answer it rather than dodge

I'm telling you that you're asking a retarded question that would be answered by basic reading comprehension.


just humour me and answer the question,

How can it be not short/assholey when the point I'm making is that he's more short/assholey as town?


right but i am curious how you read that post as anything but short or being an asshole.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:43 GMT
#268
On July 19 2015 03:43 geript wrote:
I lied. I want to lynch Kelsier now. I don't understand how he can even make the argument he's trying to make if he's town. So there's one.


which argument?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:46 GMT
#269
On July 19 2015 03:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:09 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Please read


i'm asking you a question so just answer it rather than dodge

I'm telling you that you're asking a retarded question that would be answered by basic reading comprehension.


just humour me and answer the question,

How can it be not short/assholey when the point I'm making is that he's more short/assholey as town?


right but i am curious how you read that post as anything but short or being an asshole.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:49 GMT
#273
On July 19 2015 03:41 geript wrote:
I'm actually pretty sure that there's exactly 1 between JohnnyLaw and Rayn and I'm not sure who's the town.

Yam might be town, but I didn't really like his response to me. It felt like it was lacking something. Plus he didn't really terribly respond to my vote on him, but I kinda think that would happen as either alignment.

Onegu is probably the best lynch today. Either him or maybe plotspot. Plot's a good policy lynch, but Onegu's really missing something. I think it's that his joke isn't actually funny and it's a minor joke.

Vayne I'm kinda guessing is town. But I think that's because he's only townread me as town. It kinda scares me that he kinda seems to care about the game. I have a hard time thinking that he'd actively consider or follow how he reads me.

Damdred is my mason partner. So I don't have to bother reading him. It's pretty sweet and shit at the same time. I want to look in Rels/Kels read. I forget which, but I'm feeling extra lazy.

Otherwise I'm kinda meh on people.



where did yamato even respond to you?
a lot of the plotspot thing isn't even polict
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:52 GMT
#276
On July 19 2015 03:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Like this is basic reading comprehension. How can he get that I'm trying to say that Yam's post was not short/assholey? Like me using the word more literally means that I found the post lacking an amount of shortness/assholery that town yam levels usually are.
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 03:38 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:09 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote:
On July 18 2015 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geriptbwhat is your way of reading yamato?
I mean, how do you read him?

He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town.


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you found this not short or assholey then?

Please read


i'm asking you a question so just answer it rather than dodge

I'm telling you that you're asking a retarded question that would be answered by basic reading comprehension.


just humour me and answer the question,

How can it be not short/assholey when the point I'm making is that he's more short/assholey as town?


right but i am curious how you read that post as anything but short or being an asshole.

Then he's trying to make the point that the post is short/assholey but I'm not reading it that way. Like I've been really fucking clear about this.


i was wanting you to really explain how that post made you read yam as mafia because

On July 18 2015 11:07 geript wrote:
I want to lynch Onegu or yam... maybe kelsier


On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
Geript also not a terrible lynch.

Neither is FF for that matter.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.


you had yamato as mafia before that post even happened.

so you say he is town when he is short and dickish, but essentially you first mafia read him for these posts.

On July 18 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
I propose a policy lynch of plotspot


On July 18 2015 08:31 yamato77 wrote:
I still want to lynch plotspot.


where clearly he is being long-winded mafia? =)



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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:55 GMT
#277
On July 19 2015 03:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 03:41 geript wrote:
I'm actually pretty sure that there's exactly 1 between JohnnyLaw and Rayn and I'm not sure who's the town.

Yam might be town, but I didn't really like his response to me. It felt like it was lacking something. Plus he didn't really terribly respond to my vote on him, but I kinda think that would happen as either alignment.

Onegu is probably the best lynch today. Either him or maybe plotspot. Plot's a good policy lynch, but Onegu's really missing something. I think it's that his joke isn't actually funny and it's a minor joke.

Vayne I'm kinda guessing is town. But I think that's because he's only townread me as town. It kinda scares me that he kinda seems to care about the game. I have a hard time thinking that he'd actively consider or follow how he reads me.

Damdred is my mason partner. So I don't have to bother reading him. It's pretty sweet and shit at the same time. I want to look in Rels/Kels read. I forget which, but I'm feeling extra lazy.

Otherwise I'm kinda meh on people.



where did yamato even respond to you?
a lot of the plotspot thing isn't even polict

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 18:57 GMT
#279
##Unvote

##Vote geript
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 19:00 GMT
#281
On July 19 2015 03:58 geript wrote:
Kelsier confirmed taking all of my arguments and twisting them.


right
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 19:18 GMT
#290
On July 19 2015 04:12 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 19 2015 04:03 geript wrote:
On July 19 2015 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 19 2015 03:58 geript wrote:
Kelsier confirmed taking all of my arguments and twisting them.

idk his argument looks pretty solid to me. so you would probably want to elaborate, and be precise which you have lacked so far.

Also you need to tell me how on earth a townie comes to conclusion "one of JohnnyLaw/rayn is mafia" based on what has happened in the game.

1. Because your townread on him is complete shit.
2. There's a good reason think each one of you is mafia.
3. How you've addressed him is exceptionally unlikely to make it that you two are aligned.

no, this read is shit.
like is your read on yamato and kelsier.

Nope it's not. People seem to be happy to let everyone be fine with townreads on Johnny. But he has done basically nothing to be townread; and anyone who's townreading him is doing so awfully. So when that continues, it's generally because the guy is mafia. Yet you haven't cared about the fact that I'm not townreading Johnny whatsoever. You haven't even bothered with it. Plus the reasoning that I quoted is shit. Quite often as mafia, you call people town to look good for awful reasons. Just so that you can emulate your townplay. You could be not wanting to bus, but I find that unlikely.

Second, you've failed to go through and actually analyze the argument I'm making and Kelsier is making. Like if you followed the thread in context, you'd understand the point I've made. It's not me taking things out of context whatsoever. Rather, Kelsier has continued to ask stupid questions and try to make points that are literally not following any reality in the thread. For example, he's quoted the post where Yam responded to me, and yet as asked where Yam responded to me. He's constantly asked why I don't find his posts to be short/assholey. Yet my wording has specifically and clearly pointed out that I find them short/assholey. Rather the point I've been making is that Yam doesn't feel short/assholey enough; that as town, he's usually more prone to being extra dumb/short/assholey. Which is why I'm thinking he might be town considering his follow up. But Kelsier isn't actually trying to think about what I've said. He's just trying to be active.


yam didn't respond to you , he was saying you would be a good lynch.

You have mentioned his response to you, and to your vote. where is this?

The reason I had to ask constantly was because it was important to establish the timeline. You stated that you thought yamato was mafia for being "not short/not an asshole".

This didn't ring right in my head so I checked the timeline and I asked you specifically about that post.
you confirmed that the post i quoted led you to believe that yamato was mafia.
But as I pointed out you had yamato as mafia before he even posted that. It was for two short posts about plynching plotspot. which goes against your reasoning

I don't have to convince you that you're mafia, I just have to convince town.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 19:48 GMT
#303
On July 19 2015 04:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
After reading geript I thought he didn't seem too bad but kelsier is correct that yamato never actually responded to geript. I personally don't think this alone is enough to lynch geript though.

I would much rather kill plotspot at this juncture


right..because that's all i posted

did you really read?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 20:02 GMT
#308
On July 19 2015 05:02 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 04:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
After reading geript I thought he didn't seem too bad but kelsier is correct that yamato never actually responded to geript. I personally don't think this alone is enough to lynch geript though.

I would much rather kill plotspot at this juncture


I noticed that you don't really have much justification, why is geript not so bad here? Why plot here?


yeh damdred, give him lessons on justifying towngeript!
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 18 2015 23:15 GMT
#328
On July 19 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
I'm not sure what to think of ff. His reasons for thinking me town are really weak. And he doesn't think much of Damdred's reasons for thinking I'm town which are actually quite good. He also seems to ignore Vayne's read on me which I thought wasn't terrible.

Kelsier is I'm pretty sure the best lynch. I don't get why nobody else doesn't see it.


lol you actually still believe this, you haven't even responded to my points, your main issue with me is about me "consntantly asking a question" i did this because , partly because you didn't answer and because it was an issue for me when you gave your yamato reasons.

so considering i cleared that up how can you still have me as scum?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 12:06 GMT
#344
hello everyone,

i'm catching up
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 19 2015 12:35 GMT
#345
that was hard

no reason to change my mind

you should all vote geript
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