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On July 08 2015 00:43 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:40 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 00:33 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2015 00:13 KelsierSC wrote:On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.
I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.
The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.
The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.
The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.
TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.
This guy is scum vot ehim. you know the third reason marv has already said was incorrect. clarity seemed to put thought into his wave read imo. there's like 3 people who have jumped onto this clarity thing, you, HtS and Boxer. Boxer already had clarity as scum so that's ok but you and Hts trying to get onto a case that wasn't even correct is scummy imo. I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about. well that isn't my interpreration at all. the first point you make is pretty much destroying itself when you scum read clarity for his opening but then say openings aren't important in the same post. I don't really like the argument of "he didn't answer my specific question so he is scum" i've seen scum pull the same shit and this is a big thread it is easy to miss things...like it's easy to miss when marv makes a scum read but realises it is based on incorrect information. I just disagree about the interaction clarity had with wave, that actually made me town read clarity so the fact you get the opposite bewilders me. do you think wave is scum then? Also I want you to speak about LS again. he seems to have dropped off your radar. I honestly thought you were smarter than this Kel, openings aren't alignment indicative. But going "HEY GUYS THIS GUY IS TOWN I"LL NEVER LYNCH HIM FOR HIS OPENING" is not the same thing. Like idk i don't think that you are dumb, but that point is like idiotic. When the game develops into a super game size like it is now that's an acceptable excuse its not when its a 3-5 page game and its like 1-2 posts above yours and you just go about your day. I think wave is scum because of lack of cares but meh. I've answered about ls
so you found clarity's opening alignment indicative ?
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On July 08 2015 00:39 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:37 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 08 2015 00:35 Damdred wrote:
Honestly we should stop scatter gunning the conversation and focus on a couple of people to decide t o lynch, majority sucks honestly but we have to work within it. So who's on your "ok to lynch" list other than me? You Trfel Wave I wanted to lynch LS earlier, but idk it could be a bad read based on a meta hes trying to break i'd rather give him the night so i can look into his actions a bit more.
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
go through your initial scum read on LS
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On July 08 2015 01:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm done really really tired of being scum read for whatever I do whenever I'm in any games, hunt town and find scum through pie in scum for doing that. Just looking for scummy behavior and caseing it and I'm scum for that.
la te da, fuck that shit I'm getting me Chinese playing final fantasy and I'll be back near deadline fuck it
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I don't get scummie vibes from HtS
the only thing I didn't like is that she called marv's thing on clarity a "nice find" which is strange because marv said it was bad later on and it shows she hadn't properly read the thread. But I can understand if she was skimming the game catching up from holiday.
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On July 08 2015 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote:
I want to lynch ten people.
Damdred
Scott
Ritoky
HF
HtS
Clarity
Kelsier
LS
Rsoul
Vaxx(whatever his name is)
Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little. Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 11:42 milo109 wrote:
How the hell do you know what is indicative of burnt out scum? Maybe he is just tired. Oddly specific point. Just because he scumreads you does not mean he is scum. Notice I'm still calling you town, despite your silly vote on me. Half the people in the thread have given terrible reasons for their reads. Like me. Trolling isn't indicative. yadi ya. The only way I find the point on LS convincing is if they are mafia together, and then either way I hit with my vote. ummmmmmmmmmmmm?
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On July 08 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:13 Harkon wrote:On July 08 2015 06:10 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote:
Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me lol >< would be helpful, yes -stretches- i got out of lab a little early! ^^ Get to work. get to work doing what, precisely?
are you saying "what do you want from me?"
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On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore
move on.
On July 08 2015 04:14 milo109 wrote:
Sigh. I'm two-shot cop. Fun fun fun.
anyone else see what I see.
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On July 08 2015 06:30 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 06:22 Harkon wrote:On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.
Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often. Maybe next time you start reading the thread before it is almost deadline. forgot the game started homes my bad I do apologize to everyone bc I was looking forward to playing this game and I hate folks who do what I did but w/e shit happens. In other news, look very hard at the last 10 people who have voted for me after I flip. You typed /confirm and then forgot?
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On July 08 2015 06:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I want to switch votes and willing to consolidate with anyone if we can get a mass switch to someone.
what...
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On July 08 2015 06:40 Half the Sky wrote:
geript, you said you didn't like Damdred. I went through his filter. I know a couple of people cited him for his pushes.
What is making you think he's not town? Is it his method of scumhunting? Is it his pushes on his targets (LS/Trfel/Wave, etc) or was it him dropping the LS read?
You didn't like his wave read, and Damdred is saying that wos doesn't seem to care about the game.
Are you lot thinking he's zeroing in on a pattern of "easy" lynches? I know we know the deal on LS (before he dropped it) and Trfel wasn't playing optimally regardless of what people think on him, and wos has been highly critical of his own town game. It's possible as a theory.
But I don't understand the part in your filter about "that's not whom Damdred should be choosing" as a lynch though when he goes on wave. KSC I know you found this read weird too. I'm reading the filter and I don't know if I'm missing something.
i didn't like his clarity read.
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On July 08 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
We have 14.
98% sure BM flips wanderer though
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On July 08 2015 06:59 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:58 boxerfred wrote:
this is bullshit and not fun at all. If I ever get to host a game, I'll make clear beforehand that a certain level of AFK will get you a 3 game ban or so. If you look at OP BH actually has a rule akin to this.
hopefully he mod kills blue hunter
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On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way?
you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant
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On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way? you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant
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apparently people didnt see what I saw and i'm just stupid
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On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon.
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On July 08 2015 09:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Are you referring to me? I'm here, currently on page 112 which means if my memory serves I should be getting close to where I first posted.
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yeh but you need to answer me faygot
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On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way? you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant This question? Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).
alrightt why?
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On July 08 2015 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way? you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant This question? Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum). alrightt why? Why what? Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that? Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment Why do I now think he's scum? If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose.
the 4th one
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