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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 11:48 GMT
#5696
I'll be more specific:

His opinions aren't particularly controversial or novel, he doesn't post things that could get him into a fight with someone. There's some talk about night actions that doesn't seem relevant since it doesn't change his reads at all, and while I don't wanna argue if it's correct or not it just doesn't seem like something particularly relevant except that it gives him something to write.

On July 09 2015 08:43 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
My only other aside from this that im trying to think about:

if damdred indeed is mafia then that means mafia has 2 other members that they thought were better to carry KP. I would think damdred would be the ideal KP carrier in this situation where hes not that highly suspected but also a bit scummy so its not a complete loss if he gets figured out.

Usually teams default to players like this to carry KP so im trying to think about this. oh well 48 hours.


He's the lurkiest guy in the thread and posts too "clean" for my taste.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 13:59 GMT
#5714
First time I witness HF martyring and it kinda makes me want to townread him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 14:05 GMT
#5719
I wanna suggest we actually all go back and look at EoD 1 given that scum should have had quite the zero fucks attitude on who gets lynched given both wagons were towns, so my assumption is they didn't show much interest into the lynch but at the same time gave some overly complicated explanation, so that's where I'll be looking now.

What do you think about this assumption?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 14:14 GMT
#5723
This fits the profile.

On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things.

Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway)


On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.)


Plus Ruxxar voted him without saying anything basically, and didn't say anything when rso voted for him as well.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 14:15 GMT
#5724
On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly.


On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :|


This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 14:21 GMT
#5731
Marv successfully fakeclaimed miller on D1 in a setup like this, wasn't enough tho cause yamato replaced him and as yamato is he got lynched two days later.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 14:33 GMT
#5749
On July 08 2015 06:43 scott31337 wrote:
I'll switch if needed but I believe the wanderer claim without CC


This is a post I really can't understand. He believes the claim but still wants to lynch? Meh. That's so illogical makes me think he only wanted to appease those who wanted BM.

Damdred also decided to go for BM instead, for no apparent reasons. He didn't post much at all in that phase.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 14:56 GMT
#5779
On July 12 2015 23:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote:
This fits the profile.

On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things.

Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway)


On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.)


Plus Ruxxar voted him without saying anything basically, and didn't say anything when rso voted for him as well.


Nice misrep.
I spent the later parts of day 1 defending ritoky and pushing MZ.
I don't see how this is relevant anyway.


You're pretty hissy given that my next post basically invalidated the one you quote. Maybe finish reading before you snap.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 15:23 GMT
#5783
So we gonna just talk about Scott or start a proper wagon? Good candidate for mafia imo.

Also noticed he scumreads Trfel , MZ and milo at the same time. YET, he seems to keep Trfel in the back of his pockets in terms of interest and yet, in this post, he adresses him in a way that seems more confident into him being scum than into MZ or milo:

On July 10 2015 15:14 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 15:05 Trfel wrote:
On July 10 2015 15:03 scott31337 wrote:
On July 10 2015 14:59 Trfel wrote:
On July 10 2015 14:57 rsoultin wrote:
On July 10 2015 14:52 Trfel wrote:
I don't really remember milo109 being that scummy, either. He said something I felt was towny, and Palmar thought he was town too.

I don't see ritoky's and milo109's claims being mutually exclusive, I guess. 1-shot and 2-shot cops aren't all that powerful.


two cops and a tracker is kinda stacked with self-aware millers/wanderers imo...plus vet...plus gunwhateverythingysantagifter...plus banisher

xP that's ignoring damdy's jk claim

so it's really not that probable but still kinda a bad reason by itself (also, there was a post by rit that kinda gives me pause, cause it looked almost like they shared wording or something for the pm? though...in retrospect i dunnae all the roles are still written out in the op supposedly how they went out, so that's probably nothing after all -_- ignore me; i'm tired)
There are just too many claims

Wouldn't be surprised if at least two are fake.


Which claims do you believe are fake?
No clue? XD

Maybe LightningStrike?


Are you serious? the person who claims at the slightest emotion of pressure fake-claimed? AHAHAHAHA

I am so sick of him claiming on a breath of wind and hopefully he will learn one fucking day - because it does not help town being so panicky - I 99.9% believe the claim though - I believe you are grasping at straws.

You seem to have read the thread though, or a summary in the ScumQT


My impression at least when I compare it with his MZ and milo dialogue

##Vote scott
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 15:29 GMT
#5787
On July 13 2015 00:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've been talking about scott forever. Scott is still a fantastic lynch I think.
Are we really going to push that over a milo wagon today though?


To be fair I don't find it too unlikely there are two cops. I do find it more unlikely that there are two roleblockers however. But it isn't that unlikely if it's all scum has, there's skill involved in sniffing out blues when they don't all claim on D1.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 15:35 GMT
#5788
I actually believe in a world where milo is town. As mafia in his place I'd have either stopped posting altogether or just have been posting utter shit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 15:41 GMT
#5790
On July 13 2015 00:36 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 00:35 Vivax wrote:
I actually believe in a world where milo is town. As mafia in his place I'd have either stopped posting altogether or just have been posting utter shit.

First of all that is exactly what he is doing and second of all that's the weakest reason ever.


How about this: Why the hell does he claim another cop of all the roles?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 15:42 GMT
#5791
He could have claimed something that doesn't need constant roleblocking.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 15:51 GMT
#5796
What about scott HF? Don't like the arguments presented?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 16:00 GMT
#5804
On July 13 2015 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 00:51 Vivax wrote:
What about scott HF? Don't like the arguments presented?


No i think they are all absolutely shit and look like potential busses where you all know he is mafia and point out posts that don't look like they are mafia posts or have mafia intentions at all.

Ironically I think trfel made the best read on Scott and it looked quite good.


I think you're pretty stupid then given he declared himself willing to lynch a guy he was 99 % sure was town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 16:20 GMT
#5809
On July 13 2015 01:18 Holyflare wrote:
How does that make him mafia?


Cause he had the opposite reaction I had when I also believed BM. He could try to convince people that BM is a bad lynch instead he goes "meh, ill vote him anyway for consolidation" which fits within a mafia not giving a shit who of the two gets lynched.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 16:33 GMT
#5813
On July 13 2015 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 22:40 Holyflare wrote:
Oh fuck off I'm your main scum read and you don't want to lynch me? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

That right there. Have fun after i flip.
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
Double post be damned but everything you said I've done has been mafia play and you've made "cases" on me repeatedly. All you've said I've done the past cycle is snipe at you, now defend your scott and ruxxar scum reads and you still don't want to lynch me? ^^

Don't care jat. I have a legitimate rsoul scum read that nobody will entertain so you'll have to kill me to realise it.
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 22:54 Holyflare wrote:
Neither of those things are true no but I'm not feeling very motivated at all to do either, pretty much like that game where you were mafia and i couldn't be bothered to argue at all.

Either way you saw how she's referenced me all game, you see how many times she's "exasperated" that nobody listens to her about me and finally when she can get what she wants? Nada.

That post i just made should be enough to realise after my flip that she is mafia


Vivax what do you think?


I think you're both town
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 16:42 GMT
#5817
On July 13 2015 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
So then why doesn't she want to lynch me after everything she has been saying about me all game?


Dunno, ask her. Could be a multitude of reasons. Try to beg to not be lynched and she will say yes, ask to be lynched and she will say no. Or maybe she doesn't want to piss off lawyers.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 16:43 GMT
#5818
On July 13 2015 01:41 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 01:17 milo109 wrote:
HF is trying to get plausible deniability for when I flip town. Do not listen to anyone who defends me today later on in the game.


This is a really strange post.
Why does mafia say this?


For the same reason you ask this. That post literally means nothing. We went through this already on D1. The reverse psychology shit
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
July 12 2015 16:54 GMT
#5822
But to be honest when I say HF is town I mean that nobody will ever be able to read him inluding me and the only way he gets lynched is if an angry mob gets paranoid enough to do it at some stage later in the game when his entire team died already, but even then nobody really knew if he was mafia.
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