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Vivax
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On July 08 2015 02:54 boxerfred wrote: Oats still has not delivered anything useful by the way. Only responding, derailing, not throwing in anything that would bringt town any further. I have a hard time wrapping my head around this given that he has been pushing another scumread of yours. | ||
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On July 08 2015 02:05 boxerfred wrote: So let me just throw out that I'm really unsure about HtS and KSC's alignments. I remember Kelsier being way more active and way better as town in the (one..) game I played with him. And I remember that HtS pretty much had the same "I post long posts without pushing too hard" tone in the game where she was scum. ritoky's claim is weak af, I'd prefer to lynch between Oats and Clarity, who are my top scum reads. I'm fine with lynching ritoky if the majority goes for him though. WoS is also fine. On July 08 2015 02:46 boxerfred wrote: I'm saying we lynch Oats over ritoky because Oats is actively throwing more trash in the thread. On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote: I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads). This is also noteworthy. | ||
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On July 08 2015 01:56 boxerfred wrote: I do absolutely not understand the town lean in breshke, clarity and LS. Why don't you notice he's also townreading Oats here? | ||
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oats - I liked the xp read on rsoul initially, been up in people's face Might be you bought this as a legitimiate explanation. Even if you didn't you can argue that you did, however Kelsier also explained his clarity read in the same post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=52#1026), so why understand one and not the other? Clarity - The initial posts weren't great but perhaps he was just excited to play, I really liked his scum read on WoS, he had pressure on him but he scumread the one guy sort of townreading him out of nowhere that felt really good. since then his posting has been solid, comments about trefl and bf seem alright. | ||
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On July 08 2015 20:20 boxerfred wrote: Because that's what I do when I get frustrated over afk lynches that flip town when there's way better people to lynch. Noballs town. Nope. I'm fine with lynching ritoky if the majority goes for him though. So the frustration argument doesn't hold water. | ||
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This day is pretty much autopilot so don't feel like doing much. Just gonna slap my vote where it belongs. | ||
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On July 10 2015 19:06 marvellosity wrote: you know you might get lynched if you don't find some energy from somewhere at some point, right? I'm aware of that but sometimes the threat of getting lynched really gets me going. You're so nice this game marvy. | ||
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A lot of your points is that I have no followup on things, that's true, cause when I don't find resonance on a player for something I found suspicious I just move on and look elsewhere for something that convinces more people. And at the time I posted those maybe 2 other people were scumreading geript, and everybody except you didn't seem interested in what I wrote about Damdred. I don't try to push myself into the foreground to lynch a single player if my best arguments weren't perceived as strong or interesting in the first place, especially not on D1. | ||
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A good case is rather based on showing that somebody has opinions he shouldn't have, where they conflict with things he said earlier. That's what Damdred fell for on the D1 of the game where he won cause I got mislynched. He was praising some dude who had some townreads that were Damdred's scumreads etc. | ||
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On July 11 2015 04:50 Half the Sky wrote: That's sort of the point I was trying to progress with the first half of my case. The parts about geript and Damdred. For geript he clarified his stance. At that time why did you still want to kill him? I'll try and break this down for you - when I was reading your filter he is clarifying himself and then you go to say "I don't want to distract from killing geript, etc etc" (paraphrasing, see the quote I posted AFTER my case) so that tells me you are still very much wanting to lynch him then. Shouldn't your opinion have changed? Or did you have a reason at that time it did not? That is what I was driving at. I was of the opinion that geript was exaggerating aspects of his play on purpose to look more townie (confidence, dickishness), I called him a liar for that, not for anything specific. Just that scum=liars/actors. On July 11 2015 05:01 Half the Sky wrote: So now that you are on board with lynching Damdred, etc. Where do you stand on the rest? If you assume there's 1-2 within the claims, do you even have a hunch of where other scumreads could be? I assume WoS and MZ are (still??) on your list, if they are not then whom? They're both on ice, I didn't even reread them so far cause I see no reason to. Doing work and posting cases at this point is at best good for burying what I write under the pile of what's incoming given that today's lynch is already decided. | ||
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On July 11 2015 05:31 KelsierSC wrote: Vivax , what do you think of boxer at this point? Only what I've pointed out already. I didn't quite believe his answer when I confronted him with the matter. The core point is that he used something that happened later as a justification for something he did earlier. Yeah it was about his frustration with the ritoky lynch when earlier he said he was fine with it, also how much he waffled on the validity of the claim. First he said it was weak af then he said he wouldn't lynch him because of it. | ||
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On July 11 2015 06:06 ruXxar wrote: @Vivax. I'm really curious what you meant with this quote: It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away. This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1. HF said Trfel afk = bad. I said (or at least thought) "well it's early and he posted a few reads, let's see what he does later", then EoD 1 I wasn't happy with him and HF somehow lost interest, so opposite reactions. What do you think Dam will flip? | ||
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On July 11 2015 06:35 ruXxar wrote: I think damdred flips red. Damdred is playing totally different from the last game. Way too mellow for my taste. Your posts from earlier say something else. Entirely. | ||
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Should have said it's only cause geript claimed son. | ||
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