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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 23:28 GMT
#1483
On July 07 2015 08:26 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:19 Trfel wrote:
Also, LightningStrike, what do think about ritoky now that he has claimed?

Well he is unCCed blue so Town.


With the way this game has 1-shot, 2-shot etc, I don't think being un-CC'ed means much at all.

Yes, unfortunately.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#1489
On July 07 2015 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz trfel reaching for that cc claim

Come on... who is reaching now?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 00:20 GMT
#1564
On July 07 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
may have just attacked a jar of nutella with a spoon.

you guys are very angry

Mental image of raging marvellosity literally attacking a jar with a spoon.
10/10
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 00:34 GMT
#1589
On July 07 2015 09:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso and Hf stop fighting.

You make the thread unreadable when you fight like this.

^
Especially rsoultin stop defending people for no reason if you aren't going to explain anything.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 00:39 GMT
#1596
On July 07 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:34 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso and Hf stop fighting.

You make the thread unreadable when you fight like this.

^
Especially rsoultin stop defending people for no reason if you aren't going to explain anything.


do you have any clue how frustrating this is?

HOLYFLARE IS MAFIA

maybe the all-caps will make this get through your thick skulls

i'm not fucking defending truffle i'm saying hf is fucking mafia for the way he's approaching this

>< whatever

i'm not doing this anymore you guys keep being obtuse

Even if you are right what you are doing right now will make noone want to lynch him so just let it go for now. Your arguments make no sense.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 13:21 GMT
#2028
Marv, I am too lazy to check his past games - does clarity's towngame usually consist of giving out loads of weak townreads and no scumreads?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 13:57 GMT
#2050
On July 07 2015 22:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
Try Hero Mini Mafia to see how I usually ooze green day 1

That's part of the problem. I recall you being pretty good at being very towny and you are just not in this game. Unfortunately there is no way for me to tell if that is just you being rusty.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 14:03 GMT
#2054
HF, what is your read on rsoultin? I know she is on your list and what you wrote there but that does not tell me much besides the fact that you aren't townreading her.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 14:04 GMT
#2057
On July 07 2015 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 22:57 marvellosity wrote:
which are you becausing?

ritoky because a one-shot cop claim is super safe so it doesn't really mean anything and i can't see why any of his posts are townie

BM because we kinda either lynch him or we don't, and if he flips town it doesn't tell us anything

Lynching BM isnt really a disaster though.


Getting rid of BM is not a disaster. Wasting a lynch on him if he is town kinda is.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 14:04 GMT
#2059
On July 07 2015 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
towny attitude with scummy posts and thought processes which is pretty similar to carnival so maybe mafia but also maybe not :D

Towny attitude means...?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 14:08 GMT
#2062
On July 07 2015 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh hts' read is still super disingenuous after himalayas where bm just didn't play and was town

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:04 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
towny attitude with scummy posts and thought processes which is pretty similar to carnival so maybe mafia but also maybe not :D

Towny attitude means...?


annoyance at being marginalised and wanting to be heard, which is also just a trait of being stubborn and having an ego which is why combined with her actual content and posts might be mafia

but also might be not

Ok, that's more or less where I'm at too. I want to townread her for the obvious frustration but I don't know if that's really alignment indicative and apart from that I do not see that many reasons to townread her at all.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 14:19 GMT
#2064
On July 07 2015 23:09 Holyflare wrote:
you definitely sound like JAT

I hope you do not expect an answer to this because I will not answer any question or assumption regarding my identity.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 14:30 GMT
#2075
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.
On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing.

Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 14:30 GMT
#2077
Could be milo knowing Trfel is a mislynch and not really caring about your case on him.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 15:07 GMT
#2109
On July 07 2015 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:49 Damdred wrote:
I've talked about my town reads previously I don't have a ton of strong town reads, i'd rather comments be made about my case and discussing that at present.

Dont you scumhunt by looking for townreads?

How is that of any relevance at all? Talk about his case instead.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 15:29 GMT
#2162
On July 08 2015 00:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.


You are completely misrepresenting me. The questions you asked me were basically "please repeat yourself in a different way" which is a waste of time. I was the one pointing out wave's townread on me at the time made no sense, holyflare responded to MY question when he said there's a good chance WoS is scum. We had this whole conversation already yet you somehow completely ignore it?

If you had read the thread the reason marv pointed out my unvote was weird was because he didn't have the context as he simply looked at filters.

I asked marv what he was looking at as it struck me as odd we instantly replied to someone asking him a question but he was otherwise not active in the thread.

"Has no fear of HF"

Alright look fine. When I made the comment when the game just started it was because I had the exact same thought process as him, I realized right after I posted it was probably not great as it would basically be like me claiming VT so I wanted to get away from the whole thing and not talk about it. Too late I guess.

I still believe HF is town, mainly due to his contributions and his little spat with rsoultin seems like town on town violence. Just because you haven't seen me post "so yeah I looked over HF and I still think he's town" doesn't mean I didn't go through that process.


I kinda want to attack you for being super opportunistic with your case on me but I actually like the case and I think you're probably town soooooo...

???
You think he is misrepresenting you and the rest of your defense also does not indicate that you like the case. What about it makes him town?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 15:37 GMT
#2178
On July 08 2015 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv talk to me about EBH and his more recent posts.
Specifically the ones where he fencesits on the whole "Trfel/LS" fight and adds both to his lynch list.

his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself

Yeah, there was this part of his original post that i liked:
Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.

I also thought the Vivax/geript thing was a little weird to be mafia in the same post.

maybe the Trfel/LS stuff is weird but i don't know if or why it's scummy weird. feel free to tell me why you think so


I still think he was capitalizing on a fight between two players, which always reads as mafia keeping their options open.
His response was that he couldn't really come up with reasons to scumread LS when asked.
He has no mafiareads outside of those two at this point in time.

I'm expecting some sort of follow-up or something but...Nothing.
At any rate I think it's a better lynch than a lynch on people who post stuff and ask questions.

Can you tell me why the vivax/geript thing is too weird to be mafia?

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

Just it reads very non-routine, not formulaic, bit conspiracyish.


I don't really understand how that's towny though?

I do not even think it is that weird. It is a pretty good observation that geript was not reacting to Vivax calling him scum nonstop.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 15:40 GMT
#2188
On July 08 2015 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:37 geript wrote:
@Marv. I still think Oats/vivax is a better lynch. And a better strategical one.

Why don't you seem to care about Vivax? He's practically been reading a different game entirely. It reminds me of the DP/Palmer/Vivax scumteam game. Where Vivax's reads were literally completely misconstrued shit.

HF. Look at Vivax. You caught him that game so you might remember more.

are you telling me this isn't the epitome of his towngame also?

meh
I wouldn't be opposed to lynching Vivax if it wasn't for his recent towngames. Not sure if I even am opposed to it now.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 15:41 GMT
#2193
On July 08 2015 00:40 Palmar wrote:
I need to read Trfel at some point. He has a history of being a fantastically easy townread and now I see multiple people questioning him.

EBH is top town

The problem with Trfel is that he is refusing to do much of anything. He promised some work and didn't deliver. The contributions he made especially about LS aren't good either.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 15:45 GMT
#2203
On July 08 2015 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
basically i am going to keep my vote on ritoky and move it later to wherever needs a majority

*shrug*

Not gonna fly. How am I supposed to sheep you like this?
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