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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:19 GMT
#1472
EBWOP Actually I take that back. That last sentence would be irrelevant I think he did play harder that game even if the team conceded in the end.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:27 GMT
#1480
On July 07 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
Can someone please answer my question:

Is it normal for scott31337 to miss obvious jokes?


I don't know but I think he's joking/jovial in this post, if you are referring to his response to the Ras emoticons -

On July 07 2015 07:40 scott31337 wrote:
xP over-compensation - extremely suspicious...


Given the smiley face, he did the same thing when telling milo not to unvote early game and he wasn't scumreading him for that, at that time. It didn't look like a missed joke to me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:27 GMT
#1481
On July 07 2015 08:26 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:19 Trfel wrote:
Also, LightningStrike, what do think about ritoky now that he has claimed?

Well he is unCCed blue so Town.


With the way this game has 1-shot, 2-shot etc, I don't think being un-CC'ed means much at all.


I'd have to agree.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:31 GMT
#1490
On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then?


Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#1500
On July 07 2015 08:29 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
Can someone please answer my question:

Is it normal for scott31337 to miss obvious jokes?


I don't know but I think he's joking/jovial in this post, if you are referring to his response to the Ras emoticons -

On July 07 2015 07:40 scott31337 wrote:
xP over-compensation - extremely suspicious...


Given the smiley face, he did the same thing when telling milo not to unvote early game and he wasn't scumreading him for that, at that time. It didn't look like a missed joke to me.
I was going further back...


So I read that. I read Vivax's posting as half joking, and scott misreading thinking Vivax is scumreading half the game for not posting. I don't think it's anything to make a read on personally. Scott isn't pushing Vivax on that anyways and Vivax wasn't his top lynch.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:47 GMT
#1523
On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:
I don't disagree with lynching LS.

However

On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then?


Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims?

I don't have a read on him.


Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his?


More specifically, what do you think about

1 ritoky's saying that either KSC or myself is scum with myself being more likely
2 his wagon at the time of claim and particularly the votes that came on him after the claim.
3 his response on having no one to lynch currently
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:50 GMT
#1527
On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:
I think it makes sense now....

I don't scumread LightningStrike any more.


Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote:
I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike.

Anyone disagree? If so, please state why.


nothing about LS has even changed inbetween


Oh shit, that's a really good find. 5.5h what did change...and then in the subsequent post he's asking to learn more about LS.

Okay, you might actually be on to something here.

Filter diving LS atm....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:51 GMT
#1529
Going to check the timestamps to see where it came from for myself, although Trfel really needs to explain himself at this point, what changed his read?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:55 GMT
#1533
On July 07 2015 08:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Going to check the timestamps to see where it came from for myself, although Trfel really needs to explain himself at this point, what changed his read?


Forget it. I read LS's final two pages of filter, I think I can see in the questioning where Trfel is coming from but why do you Trfel think LS is the best lynch above everyone else?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 23:55 GMT
#1534
Bah you ninjaed me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:10 GMT
#1552
Going through WoS and LS filters again...

Those of you that know WoS, are there any general town or scum tells I should be on the lookout for? I have never played with him and reading his filter, nothing is jumping out at me as particularly scummy except for his more or less afk vote on Holyflare.

I'm not sure where that vote came from tbh, can't tell if it was tone or whatnot.

If you took that out, I'd probably given him a null to slight townlean for some of the posts in his filter, but if he's been around awhile, he probably could replicate that as scum.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:16 GMT
#1558
On July 07 2015 09:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:
I don't disagree with lynching LS.

However

On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then?


Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims?

I don't have a read on him.


Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his?
I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.

I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike.


hts saw the questioning

why are you so blind, hf?


QUESTIONING

QUESTIONING

what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance

why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him

none of those are answers
This is actually pretty scummy. Note for later.


Uhhh Holyflare, you were the one who pointed out that Trfel's stance changed from not wanting to lynch him to wanting to do so...

I actually have a reasonable answer to what you said in the bolded...particularly since he is saying he wants to lynch him now...

I'm getting that air of selective reasoning HF, and I don't particularly like it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:23 GMT
#1571
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it.


You've played with Trfel enough I think you should also realise why a town Trfel (if he is town) might not want to answer the question, at least right away. Also he qualified why:

On July 07 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Going to check the timestamps to see where it came from for myself, although Trfel really needs to explain himself at this point, what changed his read?
Sorry, it's not something I'm going to explain.

And there is much more to my LightningStrike scumread than his latest few posts.


Personally I hope we can see more of these thought processes from him resolve sooner rather than later. But I also checked LS's filter relative to the timestamps of the two read posts you cited and I can objectively find 3 posts in LS's filter that I could see solidify an LS scumread.

I am willing to give Trfel more time after crosschecking LS's filter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:28 GMT
#1576
On July 07 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote:
Can someone tell me why OWS is town?

And why his drive-by posting is being ignored, but mine wasn't.

Thanx.


Fuck me, it's almost 1:30am and I have to go to bed.

I am not townreading OWS. Just looking at his filter, I assume the sheep marv comment is coming from sheeping marv on voting you (ritoky) but he's not said anything about you nor why voting you is a better bet than keeping his vote on HF.

I'd like to see OWS's thoughts on you and Holyflare, and others if he has them.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:30 GMT
#1578
On July 07 2015 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
How is this thread 79 pages already?


There you are! If you can answer my questions when you have the chance that would be grand.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:36 GMT
#1591
Where I stand for now as I go to bed:

Scumreads on ritoky, milo109, LS, HF, Palmar, BM. (Obviously with 5 mafia, I'm wrong somewhere)

I'm sure I'm wrong somewhere on my townreads but it might take more than d1 to resolve.

Trfel I'm holding at null until further explanation.

Meepak is pure policy (absolutely nothing) and BlueHunter, is mostly pure policy, though didn't like the blue hunting parts in his post.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#1592
On July 07 2015 09:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso and Hf stop fighting.

You make the thread unreadable when you fight like this.


1000%
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:38 GMT
#1595
On July 07 2015 09:31 Holyflare wrote:
holy fucking shit

i want to know why trfel changed his read in between with such basic ls answers

you have turned it into 2 pages of useless shit and you don't even know the answer

fuck off


Wouldn't call her perspective "useless shit" tbh, if you're scumreading someone or looking close at someone you probably want to see for yourself whether what they are saying could make sense...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 09:56 GMT
#1858
Good morning, catching up.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 10:02 GMT
#1860
On July 07 2015 18:09 boxerfred wrote:
Also I might refrain from my HF scum lean, the read change from Trfel that he observed was really good. Still need to catch up.


I thought it was good when I first saw his post too. But HF is really good at taking things out of context if/when he's scum. Even if he's town the post is flawed because LS' filter showed some reasonable basis for the change.

The easiest way to cross check that is to look at LightningStrike's filter against the time stamps provided. It is a little annoying to do because the time stamps are in Korean time but once I did I found three quotes that I objectively found scummy in his filter before Trfel even explained it. (You hit the quote button and you'll find time stamp quoted in KST.)
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