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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 14:46 GMT
#2089
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 14:49 GMT
#2092
I've talked about my town reads previously I don't have a ton of strong town reads, i'd rather comments be made about my case and discussing that at present.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 15:01 GMT
#2102
On July 07 2015 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:49 Damdred wrote:
I've talked about my town reads previously I don't have a ton of strong town reads, i'd rather comments be made about my case and discussing that at present.

Dont you scumhunt by looking for townreads?


Most of the time but i get scum read for it so i'm going to change to a more traditional approach sadly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 15:33 GMT
#2171
On July 08 2015 00:13 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.


you know the third reason marv has already said was incorrect. clarity seemed to put thought into his wave read imo.

there's like 3 people who have jumped onto this clarity thing, you, HtS and Boxer. Boxer already had clarity as scum so that's ok but you and Hts trying to get onto a case that wasn't even correct is scummy imo.


I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 15:35 GMT
#2174
Honestly we should stop scatter gunning the conversation and focus on a couple of people to decide t o lynch, majority sucks honestly but we have to work within it.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 15:39 GMT
#2184
On July 08 2015 00:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:35 Damdred wrote:
Honestly we should stop scatter gunning the conversation and focus on a couple of people to decide t o lynch, majority sucks honestly but we have to work within it.


So who's on your "ok to lynch" list other than me?


You
Trfel
Wave

I wanted to lynch LS earlier, but idk it could be a bad read based on a meta hes trying to break i'd rather give him the night so i can look into his actions a bit more.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 15:43 GMT
#2198
On July 08 2015 00:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:33 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.


you know the third reason marv has already said was incorrect. clarity seemed to put thought into his wave read imo.

there's like 3 people who have jumped onto this clarity thing, you, HtS and Boxer. Boxer already had clarity as scum so that's ok but you and Hts trying to get onto a case that wasn't even correct is scummy imo.


I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about.


well that isn't my interpreration at all. the first point you make is pretty much destroying itself when you scum read clarity for his opening but then say openings aren't important in the same post.

I don't really like the argument of "he didn't answer my specific question so he is scum" i've seen scum pull the same shit and this is a big thread it is easy to miss things...like it's easy to miss when marv makes a scum read but realises it is based on incorrect information.

I just disagree about the interaction clarity had with wave, that actually made me town read clarity so the fact you get the opposite bewilders me. do you think wave is scum then?

Also I want you to speak about LS again. he seems to have dropped off your radar.


I honestly thought you were smarter than this Kel, openings aren't alignment indicative. But going "HEY GUYS THIS GUY IS TOWN I"LL NEVER LYNCH HIM FOR HIS OPENING" is not the same thing.

Like idk i don't think that you are dumb, but that point is like idiotic.

When the game develops into a super game size like it is now that's an acceptable excuse its not when its a 3-5 page game and its like 1-2 posts above yours and you just go about your day.

I think wave is scum because of lack of cares but meh.

I've answered about ls
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 16:02 GMT
#2229
On July 08 2015 00:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:43 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:33 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.


you know the third reason marv has already said was incorrect. clarity seemed to put thought into his wave read imo.

there's like 3 people who have jumped onto this clarity thing, you, HtS and Boxer. Boxer already had clarity as scum so that's ok but you and Hts trying to get onto a case that wasn't even correct is scummy imo.


I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about.


well that isn't my interpreration at all. the first point you make is pretty much destroying itself when you scum read clarity for his opening but then say openings aren't important in the same post.

I don't really like the argument of "he didn't answer my specific question so he is scum" i've seen scum pull the same shit and this is a big thread it is easy to miss things...like it's easy to miss when marv makes a scum read but realises it is based on incorrect information.

I just disagree about the interaction clarity had with wave, that actually made me town read clarity so the fact you get the opposite bewilders me. do you think wave is scum then?

Also I want you to speak about LS again. he seems to have dropped off your radar.


I honestly thought you were smarter than this Kel, openings aren't alignment indicative. But going "HEY GUYS THIS GUY IS TOWN I"LL NEVER LYNCH HIM FOR HIS OPENING" is not the same thing.

Like idk i don't think that you are dumb, but that point is like idiotic.

When the game develops into a super game size like it is now that's an acceptable excuse its not when its a 3-5 page game and its like 1-2 posts above yours and you just go about your day.

I think wave is scum because of lack of cares but meh.

I've answered about ls


so you found clarity's opening alignment indicative ?


Are you stupid?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 16:05 GMT
#2232
I'm done really really tired of being scum read for whatever I do whenever I'm in any games, hunt town and find scum through pie in scum for doing that. Just looking for scummy behavior and caseing it and I'm scum for that.

la te da, fuck that shit I'm getting me Chinese playing final fantasy and I'll be back near deadline fuck it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 16:14 GMT
#2243
No it wasn't, d1 nhm, fid and a few others kept calling me mafia for having to many town reads. In the newbie fame oats and people scum read me for hunting town.

@marv its cause we have an unbreakable love.

harks reaction was interesting though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 16:17 GMT
#2250
I mean whats the point of me continuing to use a method that just gives me headache and no scum would ever kill me? Like I think i'm a decent player, but theres something wrong if I get end gamed every game because people are scum reading me because of my method make me look scummy.

Its just not worth it even if I figure out the game, I should be able to figure it out using any method.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 16:19 GMT
#2255
Ok, I really have to go get my Chinese now. but i'll just show the thread where i'm at when I get back.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 21:22 GMT
#2813
I'm here trying to,catch up what's going on
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 21:41 GMT
#2874
I'll switch to bm
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 21:43 GMT
#2891
I switched consolidation
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 21:54 GMT
#2969
We have to consolidate or no lynch which is worse.

I can go either way atm but it's two lurkers today
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 22:00 GMT
#3015
On July 08 2015 06:59 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:57 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
We have 14.

98% sure BM flips wanderer though


scott

scott plzzz

why be so mafia

why


No CC.. You're right - saying stupid shit got me in trouble the last game - Refrain from itttttt


Why do you have to,have a cc? Wanderer is easy to claim as scum
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2015 22:36 GMT
#3068
Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 08 2015 21:26 GMT
#3588
Hi guys, I overslept by many moons.

Partially caught up will give reads before or right after day post .

any questions specifically while I finish catching up I'll try to answer
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 08 2015 21:31 GMT
#3592
On July 09 2015 06:29 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death.

Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on

kelsier/breshke/obi



Finally back on my PC, that's great, can read filters n stuff.

Kelsier:
Liked him at the start. Was top townread.
As game went on presence fell off.
Don't understand his response to my rsoultin case. One strange reply then never mentions it again?
The last half of his filter is awful. Appears to be active without actually involving himself.
Has fallen down from Top town to slightly above null.

Breshke:
Been on the periphery, not really paid much attention to him.
Currently null.

Obi:
Didn't particularly have an opinion of him at the start.
Reading his filter a lot of his opinions align with mine so that's a +.
I liked his response to my case on rsoul +.
Town lean.


I like this post, I like ruxxor. He just seems so carefree with his thoughts.
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