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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 19 2015 06:55 GMT
#7941
Oh, one other thing, I didn't like Clarity_nl's reaction to Breshke's jailkeeper claim.

Clarity_nl wasn't sure about both ObiWanShinobi (the claimed jailkeep target) and Breshke. He should have been very excited to see this claim, because regardless of the results, he gains a ton of information about the people he's most concerned about.

But he didn't seem excited at all. His thoughts came in a series of several posts, and the priorities felt off. The first thing he does is ask Breshke for his other jailkeep targets. Why does he care about this, why does he assume that Breshke has many uses of his role, and is claiming now for no reason? I feel like this is more likely to come from mafia, automatically fearing the worst case scenario. The rest of his questions didn't feel aligned with a town mindset, either, and most notably, all of the excitement was gone.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 19 2015 07:22 GMT
#7942
If anyone has any questions for me, please feel free to ask.

I probably won't have that much time tomorrow, and I'm not sure if I can be around for the deadline.

And rsoultin, sometime you can let me play a game for myself. You realize that I play as lazily as possible? The more you defend me, the less I feel forced to actually do things...
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 19 2015 09:04 GMT
#7943
On July 19 2015 10:45 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
im down to vote boxerfred just by POE at this point honestly, no cases or anything.


On July 19 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I can lynch Bf.
That statement is probably the second time I remember him saying something that made no sense as a scumread.


wub wub 1 ML left so why not? Maybe you'll then go for a HF sheep finally by lynching rsoultin, then sheeping me and going for clarity and hts. I don't care at all, frustrating to see how people say "oh HF is town we should sheep" and then don't sheep.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 12:29 GMT
#7944
On July 19 2015 13:04 Breshke wrote:
Ahh and i just noticed clarity in your analysis you said you think HTS is likely town but are going to put her back at null but then still colour her green and dont consider her in your scumteams. Is this on purpose?


On July 19 2015 10:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
I waffled so often on HtS that some of my stuff is contradictory, but in a world where HtS is town all of the above is true.



As for Trfel suddenly posting 20 reasons why I'm scum, this is what we call scum flailing.

I'm sorry rsoultin but I think you're wrong. If I'm not wrong on trfel that kinda means HtS has to be scum and I don't see it.

On July 19 2015 13:02 Breshke wrote:
Also clarity what if Ruxxar did think you and HF were masons suggested the kill and then his team told him otherwise.


Seems unlikely, from what I understand HF is a good n1 kill regardless. Not impossible, mind you, but mafia isn't an exact science.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 12:41 GMT
#7945
ebwop if I'm wrong on trfel
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 12:51 GMT
#7946
On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.

##Vote Milo

yeah I dont think breshke is the JK.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 12:53 GMT
#7947
On July 19 2015 21:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.

##Vote Milo

yeah I dont think breshke is the JK.


He changed his mind shortly after, I've already brought this up earlier in the game.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 12:56 GMT
#7948
3 mafia. 8 town

wave(town)
clarity (mafia)
rux (town)
bf (town)
trfel (town)
ows (town)
breshke (mafia)
rsoul (town)
hts (mafia)
xebh (town)
oats (town)

These are my current reads
Any questions/
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 12:59 GMT
#7949
So you think breshke fakeclaiming jk is just hoping that OWS isn't a blue role and goes "wait a minute, I wasn't roleblocked"?

Also why am I scum?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 12:59 GMT
#7950
Breshke did jack shit yesterday while complaining that she didnt like the HF lynch.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 13:07 GMT
#7951
On July 19 2015 21:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
So you think breshke fakeclaiming jk is just hoping that OWS isn't a blue role and goes "wait a minute, I wasn't roleblocked"?

Also why am I scum?


The question you should be asking is why scumbreshke fakeclaims jk at this juncture.

She does it to look town because,
1. Its a pretty damn low risk play, all the blue roles have been 1-shot/2-shot so its really unlikely that ows is blue and has not done shit with it.
2. Its not a lylo claim is its more believable and this gives her push to influence town for this lynch.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 13:08 GMT
#7952
On July 19 2015 21:59 Clarity_nl wrote:

Also why am I scum?

for you its mostly poe, i have townreads on everyone else.

Or i guess, townier than you.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 13:09 GMT
#7953
I think you're wrong about breshke, he also hasn't tried to push anyone this cycle.

I think for me the more important question is why am I scum?
For example what reason do I have to switch from ruxxar to trfel?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 13:09 GMT
#7954
or switch you with wave.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 13:11 GMT
#7955
Nah wave is town
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 13:12 GMT
#7956
On July 19 2015 22:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think you're wrong about breshke, he also hasn't tried to push anyone this cycle.

I think for me the more important question is why am I scum?
For example what reason do I have to switch from ruxxar to trfel?

If they are both town, then it doesnt really matter?

So you think that its reasonable to assume,

1. JK breshke doesnt want to lynch other claimed JK damdred,
2. JK breshke saves her jail till night 4, which is not even the best night to do it. Why not night 5???
preventing a nightkill makes it mylo not lylo so breshke needs to be around to claim it.
So saying that she wanted to use it before she dies doesnt help town at all.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 13:15 GMT
#7957
On July 19 2015 22:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 22:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think you're wrong about breshke, he also hasn't tried to push anyone this cycle.

I think for me the more important question is why am I scum?
For example what reason do I have to switch from ruxxar to trfel?

If they are both town, then it doesnt really matter?

So you think that its reasonable to assume,

1. JK breshke doesnt want to lynch other claimed JK damdred,
2. JK breshke saves her jail till night 4, which is not even the best night to do it. Why not night 5???
preventing a nightkill makes it mylo not lylo so breshke needs to be around to claim it.
So saying that she wanted to use it before she dies doesnt help town at all.


Basically the way I see it is damdred was getting lynched anyway.

Breshke also mentioned he(?) wanted to save it another night but was afraid of getting lynched. You explain yourself that for breshke's JK to do anything he needs to be alive otherwise it's useless, so I can understand using it n4.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 13:16 GMT
#7958
On July 19 2015 22:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think you're wrong about breshke, he also hasn't tried to push anyone this cycle.

Because she wants to lynch the current person leading the votes.

Why do you think breshke is town?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2015 13:20 GMT
#7959
On July 19 2015 22:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 22:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 19 2015 22:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think you're wrong about breshke, he also hasn't tried to push anyone this cycle.

I think for me the more important question is why am I scum?
For example what reason do I have to switch from ruxxar to trfel?

If they are both town, then it doesnt really matter?

So you think that its reasonable to assume,

1. JK breshke doesnt want to lynch other claimed JK damdred,
2. JK breshke saves her jail till night 4, which is not even the best night to do it. Why not night 5???
preventing a nightkill makes it mylo not lylo so breshke needs to be around to claim it.
So saying that she wanted to use it before she dies doesnt help town at all.


Basically the way I see it is damdred was getting lynched anyway.

Breshke also mentioned he(?) wanted to save it another night but was afraid of getting lynched. You explain yourself that for breshke's JK to do anything he needs to be alive otherwise it's useless, so I can understand using it n4.

I didnt actually see this the first time
So yeah it was obi, i kinda regret not saving it but i feel like i would be getting pushed this phase and it isnt worth the risk idk. I actually planned to not use it but changed my mind like 6 hours before deadline.

This is ludicrous. Nobody is seriously thinking of pushing her the last cycle.

No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 19 2015 13:20 GMT
#7960
On July 19 2015 22:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 22:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think you're wrong about breshke, he also hasn't tried to push anyone this cycle.

Because she wants to lynch the current person leading the votes.

Why do you think breshke is town?


Is breshke male or female? I thought he was a guy.

JK claim makes a lot of sense to me. The target makes sense to me and the timing makes sense to me.
Other than that I was scumreading him for a bit and then moved him to null, he was in no real danger to get lynched. I would make no sense as town!breshke could easily lie about being 1-shot which means scum have to shoot him tonight anyway. He's definitely not the lynch today.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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