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Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 13:26 GMT

#7965

Without the claim breshke could be scum, but I haven't felt strongly about it. Most of the dead town have called her town.

In fact the post you're referring to is the one I scumread her for during n2, but she explained herself adequately.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 13:28 GMT

#7968

I don't. Read my latest huge post.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 13:30 GMT

#7970

On July 19 2015 22:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh why trfel?

It seems really bad to me that you are lynching a POE read rather than someone you actually think is mafia.
##vote clarity

Look at the post and look at the worlds that are possible with my assumptions, trfel is in all of them.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 13:31 GMT

#7971

I'm still waffling on HtS, I'm around for 3 hours and then I gtg I won't be around during lynch so tell me why you think she's scum. Do you just hate women?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 13:44 GMT

#7975

You're a guy, that's what I thought.
A rolecop and two roleblockers seems kinda insane, Breshke.

I'm really not feeling a rsoultin lynch despite everything. >.<

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:11 GMT

#7989

On July 19 2015 23:04 rsoultin wrote:
nope ^^

if you want to know the truth, i think y'all are gonna flail around a lot arguing till right before EoD, consolidate on me for #reasons! and just generally not listen to me all game like y'all have already been doing and do pretty much every game -shrugs-

and go into mylo tomorrow

best i can do is leave something behind and unless anyone wants to actually bring forth a real reason i'm scum i'm just gonna ignore that and pretend i'm invincible lol >< so whatever

It appears trfel isn't happening, I don't think I can convince people in the ~2 hours I have left nor do I want to spend my time that way. Like trfel is playing "objectively scummy" imo, but for meta reasons and DMA reasons people don't want to lynch him. I wanna put my vote somewhere useful.

I think you could be scum, rsoultin, but I'm not confident in it. I also think that unless both you and hts are scum together, hts can figure you out better than me today and tomorrow.

I want you to come to a conclusion today regarding trfel. Is he a DO NOT LYNCH for you?

In the mean time I guess that leaves bf to put my vote on.

##Vote boxerfred

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:14 GMT

#7990

Oats if you've read my filter I shine with tryhard townie thoughts, lynching me because of something you consider "dumb" is terrible and you should reconsider.

On July 19 2015 22:55 Breshke wrote:

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Doesnt my thingy stll go off if i die?

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Yeah but we wouldn't know why a kp was missing and it wouldn't give us an extra day, so you have to be alive for your jk to mean anything

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:28 GMT

#7997

On July 19 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote:

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On July 19 2015 23:19 Breshke wrote:

On July 19 2015 23:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats if you've read my filter I shine with tryhard townie thoughts, lynching me because of something you consider "dumb" is terrible and you should reconsider.

On July 19 2015 22:55 Breshke wrote:

On July 19 2015 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote:

On July 19 2015 22:39 Breshke wrote:
Im a guy

Also there was like at least 3 people in the night that said they wanted to kill me. Also there was the possibility that mafia had a role cop still and they had just randomly used it on me.

##Vote Rsoultin

I said some shitty reasons before but it is good enough for now. Clarity says too many things that make sense especially that last big post.

I also find it really weird that VA says he likes 4 people and then all he has to do is make a decision about my claim and he has auto yet he decides to flip his read on ruxxar for shitty wifom reason that vivax scum read him even though there is a bunch of explanations on why vivax died.

But still I want to lynch either clarity or rsoul today and like i said im liking clarity more.

If mafia kills you, your jk literally doesnt matter.

Can you quote the posts where people want to kill you?

Doesnt my thingy stll go off if i die?

On July 17 2015 23:19 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:

On July 17 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia.

how can you say these things with a straight face in the same sentence?

breshke LITERALLY just parked his vote on ruxxar all day last cycle and did nothing and that is the basis of your scumread

impossible to know who is town or mafia in this game because there are huge gaping logical errors and double standards on every page I read

On July 18 2015 00:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky
Breshke (2): Vivax, XEliteBlueHunter69X
rsoultin (2): ruXxar, boxerfred
ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare
ruXxar (1): Breshke

Here's where I stand, which actually makes the lynches quite easy. I would start with ruxxar, then OWS + Breshke in some order and then rsoultin if necesarry, easy game.

Yeah but we wouldn't know why a kp was missing and it wouldn't give us an extra day, so you have to be alive for your jk to mean anything

my last post before daypost was obi jk haha i think you guys could have worked it out.

On July 19 2015 23:14 rsoultin wrote:

On July 19 2015 23:02 Breshke wrote:

On July 19 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote:
o.0

yeah bresh is male, not sure why that's important but he probably doesn't appreciate being virtually castrated lol ><

(truffle, stating my opinion on you when asked isn't defending you xP but if you want me to pretend i think you're scum when i think you're town...that's kinda silly)

i don't see how i'm not considering hf's reads, bresh? there is a world of difference between considering a player's reads and blindly sheeping them. did you forget ruxx was one?

anyone voting for me or scumreading me right now who has not read my filter (looking at you, bresh, among others) should be ashamed, and that's all i'm going to say regarding this "all you did was fight with hf/now all you're doing is fighting with ruxx" bs

and nope, va ^^ i'm sorry he was town, but i'm not sorry he's out of the game and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. you don't like it? too bad

oats...i didn't think it was that unreasonable for bresh to try to use his role defensively as jk? statistically it's more likely to be effective than early game as well just cause there are less players. is that one quote from damdy's claim the main reason you're doubting him?

Idk i just feel like you would be thrown into doubt when HF flipped town since you seemed fairly sure but maybe im thinking more how i would react than how you would react.

Also i wasn't using my JK defensively i wasnt going for a save i was going for a RB.

Can you talk to me about the stuff i said about VA i dont think its as good as i think it is

you're right, offensively was the correct word lol >< and actually what i meant. i'm just half-awake

the crux of your scumread is after being wrong on hf i shouldn't have other strong scumreads? that's...kinda ludicrous? like look at it from my perspective. i know i'm town, and hf was obviously town. hf being town actually just cements the feeling i've had all game that ruxx was making up shit to take sides there...like his huge argument the day we lynched hf was hf looked townier than i did? you probably aren't reading our posts cause they're tedious and even i don't want to -_-

but it's basically turned into a rsoul i'm scumreading you for doing this!

only that's not what i did?

yes you did!

no i didn't!

-_- i dunnae how to explain it really but i feel that a town ruxx would at least look back to make sure that what he thought was what actually happened, and it seems a hell of a lot like he was setting me up for when hf flipped town. he says now he's scumreading me for basically being an asshole to him, but before it was definitely for "defending" truffle which i've said dozens of times this game he's seen me do as TOWN in the only game we've played together

i kinda just want to leave my vote on him, yet y'all lynch me and demand you lynch him the next day when i flip town, since it worked so well for hf lol >< mindless lemmings

meh, i dunnae how that necessarily makes va scum? like i get why you think it does, cause it's him "keeping his options open" or whatever, but va does the nk wifom thing (pretty imprefectly lol ><) on a regular basis. i've seen it in all his town games...not sure if he does it as scum or not

That is half my point thought the arguments felt useless like i wont lie i didnt read the big post from him today nor your reply to it because it just feels like a bunch of he said she said.

So we lynch ruxxar and he flips town. Who do youw ant to lynch tomorrow? I know i asked something like this before but im trying to get a clear picture

you did and it hasn't changed xP

i still think scum is between va/bf/wave/clarity if ruxx flips town, but i'm pretty sure he won't ^^ and yes, the arguing is pointless and that's why i stopped. he decided hf was town and i was scum 12 hrs into the game for reasons that aren't even accurate. like you accuse me of having unchanging reads lol >< when i've actually tried to work with both of them

like maybe va is a better shot for flipping scum than bf and i'm just being too hopeful thinking that people really aren't that...eh, i have no nice way to describe bf if he's not scum so i'm not going to go there -_-

va completely forgot his townread on hf. then when hf is being lynched he suddenly remembers again, and it's for the same reason that always existed? like, how is that possible? hf wasn't just a townread, either; he was va's most confident townread. i don't think a town!va forgets that, and him trying to use this "i was right on hf" for towncred makes it look even worse. his memory lapse was very convenient, imo

Any thoughts on my reasons for calling ruxxar town?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:41 GMT

#8007

On July 19 2015 23:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Skimmed BFs filter nsm10, NOTHING like this game I see the shit tier town game here, not lynching him today.

I'll take a look myself.

I might actually end up with rsoultin just as POE then >.<, HtS have you looked into her yet?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:45 GMT

#8010

Pisses me off that half the game isn't playing.

It feels like rsoultin, hts, and myself are the only ones trying to figure the game out. Breshke is kinda around at the sidelines and Oats doesn't explain his reasons for anything.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:49 GMT

#8012

I agree that bf sounds much more reasonable as scum in NSM10 than he does in this game.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:50 GMT

#8014

I really don't see why ras is scum other than that she's the "scummiest" active player to me >.<

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:50 GMT

#8015

ras you might get your wish about being consolidated on. I don't wanna lynch ruxx, bf or myself. Who should I vote if not you?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 14:58 GMT

#8019

On July 19 2015 23:56 rsoultin wrote:
eh now i remember why i didn't get through bf's filter in that game -_- it's painful to even try to read, much like here

"people voting together d1 must be masons or scum" -pukes in mouth-

can you show me what you're talking about in quotes, hts?

no reason not to lynch ebh xP @ hts...which kinda answers your question, clarity. though frankly, i'm not going to tell you to vote for someone i'm not scumreading just to get you not to vote for me, so that's a pretty unfair question to begin with lol ><

Unfair questions are the best questions.

I'm rereading EBH again, I always kind go "eh, probably town" but I have a hard time figuring out why I feel that way.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 15:00 GMT

#8021

Some combination of his opening saying if vivax is scum that means geript is scum is an observation that I don't really see coming from scum. His whiny "holier than thou" attitude, his "woe is me" shit about no one listening to him. Like it all feels like a mediocre town player with a huge ego. Don't really see why scum would draw attention to themselves like that.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 15:01 GMT

#8023

Happy bday btw rsoultin.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 15:04 GMT

#8026

Happy nearly birthday rsoultin!

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 15:07 GMT

#8028

On July 20 2015 00:05 rsoultin wrote:

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lol not really sure why this means anything again?

you think a town player really forgets his strongest townread?

You think a scum player does? Like you're harping on this a lot but it seems like you're using a dumbtell as a scumtell.

And yeah I think drawing unnecessary attention to yourself is more likely to come from town, the same with the bluehunting. Like yeah you name your smurf bluehunter and then roll scum, MAYBE you decide to bluehunt in thread but that just doesnt seem necessary.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 15:13 GMT

#8031

On July 20 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

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This post is terrible.

HTS doesnt realise Im calling breshke town.

HTS also has a stupid assumption that is based off absolutely nothing.

And finally, hts doesnt link the people wanting to lynch BF, aka clarity.

So its not a townie mindset post at all.

How do you think that people who push bf are scummy but never actually make a connection with your scumreads?
Its way too general and typical mafia.

And rsoultin, bro. She's saying the same thing two ways. "I think there has to be an active scum, there has to be scum between ras/clarity because they're both active and they're both on bf atm"

Seems consistent to me.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

July 19 2015 15:14 GMT

#8033

On July 20 2015 00:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also, there is significant pushback against lynching wave when there really shouldnt be, nobody should have any kind of read on him.

On July 10 2015 04:08 geript wrote:
Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.

NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.

Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now.

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