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On July 16 2015 06:31 boxerfred wrote:
EBH's filter is decent but short as fuck. I actually like it. I'm not voting him today.
Another thought that came to my mind:
We had 3 NK's this night, all on town:
Marvellosity the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Scott31337 the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Harkon the Lieutenant has been killed!
I assume that the Harkon shot came from scum. Pretty much confirmed blue. How many shots can scum pull off with 2 members left?
MOD QUESTION: Was Kelsier able to submit a night action? Was that night action executed or was it nullified since he was killed before EoN?
Then, I assume that someone who was handed a gun by LightningStrike shot. Most likely, the target was scott because he was scumread quite heavily. The other kill would've been a scum kill on marv then.
What is the thought process between killing marv and not LightningStrike? Recognizing him as an experienced player who's capable of finding scum? I'd say HtS and HF could think that way.
Since the gun LS handed out was a 1-shot, I think it's safe for him to say who he gave the gun to. Also, I want the gun bearer to tell who he shot and why. That would make it clearer which targets where shot by scum and it would confirm two people as town.
Or, LS + the one who claims having received the gun are the last two scum members.
That is only possible if there is another blue that is able to shoot in the game.
At this point, we have 5 dead blues and 1 more claimed blue, LS. That makes six blues vs. four reds. I lack experience in that game so please tell me, is that a valid and balanced setup that is likely to be used by Blazinghand?
Okay, so tl;dr:
LS, who received the gun? Confirm one more townie please. Guy with gun, tell us who you shot.
Also, is 6 blues vs. 4 reds okay and a "normal" setup?
pms are there for a reason ^^
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On July 16 2015 04:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I feel like the thread is too stagnant for this to be a 100% mafia lynch. I keep looking for reasons to not jump on this lynch but I can't find any aside from that.
So I'm thinking I look for mafia outside of this lynch or in the people that are jumping on it.
I can't find any.
Bleh.
i'm aware of what you said
i'm saying the reasoning's faulty -shrugs-
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there's no vig type mafia role in the op
lol bf you're way behind here ><
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true, he isn't...maybe looking for a way to push ls?
bf, i'm assuming you have a reason to think ls is scum and that's why you're doubting his claim? problem is i see no reason to doubt his claim unless you think the real gunsmith hasn't outed and hts and ls are like fooling us all blind -_- which i guess is possibly but not terribly likely xP
now, ls giving a gun to scum is more likely but they'd use it just as hts did unless they have onegu-sized cahones so...not sure where you're going with this?
can you explain?
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On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.
if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking
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On July 16 2015 07:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever. if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking I don't think bf, who is in no danger to get lynched would go "hurr do how many scum are there" as scum to get some kinda wifom towncred. The much simpler explanation is that he just can't read and he's town  The problem I have with this game is that if either you or hts is scum you're not gonna get caught cause you're like the only reasonable people that post consistently, and it's very easy to be reasonable when town is flailing. Btw LS is gunsmith there's like 0% that he's not, he gave a gun to hts and hts confirmed it. So even if hts is scum and shot MZ that doesn't make LS any less confirmed town.
lol the solution to reasonable people possibly being scum is always just to lynch us at lylo xP we won't make it that far
of course, clar  i was asking because i wanted to see what got bf on this tangent in the first place? i don't think anyone who has kept up with the game would be doubting ls at all right now
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On July 16 2015 07:03 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever. if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking I was thinking of a scenario of 3 scum members alive carrying KPs and LS claiming to only give guns to dead people, thus justifying the third KP. I'm completely backing off of that on second thought though. alsdkjsaöldkjsaöldk good night.
yeah not possible with the setup
not calling you dumb, btw...a "dumbtell" means saying something that kinda telegraphs you're town because scum should already know it. some players do it on purpose, but i had the same thought as clarity when i saw your posting lol ><
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On July 16 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no?
I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative.
o.0 oh i wasn't aware of that, truffle
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lol it's an hf sighting ^^
eh i haven't really touched clarity's filter much either @.@ we were basically posting identical responses (with different wording) for awhile, though, which generally gives me a good feeling about people. i'll pop back into his filter when i'm looking over ows (va is saying it now, too?) and probably hts/bresh cause i've ignored them a lot lol ><
who am i kidding? i just need to reread things in general. anyway, yeah...i'm here if you're ready to play, hf
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On July 16 2015 08:04 Holyflare wrote:
Obiwan is probably also mafia for my case and the fact that he's super hedged on me despite calling me scum all the time last night and seeing me "clearly misrepresent his meta" and he's only not voting me because there's a wagon on me? That's super bs too. Don't listen to HtS his filters are lies.
o.0 lol his filters are lies, what?
yeah i agree that it's strange that as soon as you could be the lynch he started poking everywhere else
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On July 16 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 04:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Breshke - I've read him as town based on his d1 for most of the game but I cannot recall a single thing he's done or said since then. In looking through his filter he immediately sheeped my post regarding milo and claimed that lynching damdred over milo would be bad even if damdred is RB, seems like a weird kind of logic to take. Scum obviously would love a milo lynch over damdred even if damdred is afterwards. He complains about the HF/milo interaction which I get, but then he calls milo confirmed scum which I do not. He showed no hesitation towards the end of d3 which I think makes him scum as milo started looking really townie near the end.
Breshke actually said this? Ugh I need to go to bed, but when was this?
presumably during the jk claim, but i'd have to verify
it makes sense from the perspective that everyone was saying their alignments were linked...obviously erroneous now...eh actually that's not a bad point at all cause even if it kinda makes sense from town valuing jk over cop if bresh knows their alignments it also "clears" damdy lol ><
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On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote:
I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on...
don't say this -_-
like seriously, hts, if he really just up and quit the game, he's either scum skating by and thumbing his nose at us for being morons, or town that scum is definitely going to leave alive. a policy lynch on him if he hadn't come back isn't "really poor" at all
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On July 16 2015 08:13 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 08:10 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote:
I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on... don't say this -_- like seriously, hts, if he really just up and quit the game, he's either scum skating by and thumbing his nose at us for being morons, or town that scum is definitely going to leave alive. a policy lynch on him if he hadn't come back isn't "really poor" at all Hmmmm, alright. I'm just a little upset atm at how this game is going tbh.
nah, i get it. i've been kinda expecting him to poke his nose back in, frankly lol >< but if he hadn't...(and if this is just a drive-by, too, in all honesty but i'm kinda hoping it's not) then yeah i'd be on that wagon, too, if only to prevent town from having to make the decision in lylo
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On July 16 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
I fully intended to absolutely not post again.
lol xP good thing you can't help yourself
okay, guys. i'm out but i'll be back with some things later tonight
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On July 16 2015 08:25 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm not happy with my play to some extent (and I'm not even going to touch the n2 vig shot) but independent of n2, I am pretty frustrated.
But like I said, where my head is at - ruXxar/EBH, some of the others I also have to re-evaluate. And double check on Breshke and Clarity.
And I'm hoping I stumble on something important before next day cycle because I fly to NYC Friday >_<
I can still play, but the time will still be more limited. But will be on US East time so I just need to not fuck up EoDs >_<
ruxx can definitely be scum with how little his reads seemed to have changed (before i've reread his filter, mind you) and i dunnae i don't think it's a bad idea to review ows at all, but that's because i'm kinda leaning town on ebh and i have some respect (not blind respect after last game lolol ><) for his reads. i know what you said about ows' game but hf/vivax (i think?) have a good point on his wishy-washy approach to hf today
like this whole "thread is stagnant therefore hf must be town" is pretty horrible reasoning, tbf
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On July 16 2015 08:27 Holyflare wrote:
Man I just read obi's filters from his other games and this is exactly like his mafia game? There is no way he defends so many people so many times in his town games, he's super unsure and lost and a lazy pile of crap in town games and free town reads, silly defences and questions in mafia games. Just like here.
on my list of things to do -_-
but if hts is right about how small/outdated a pool we have to work with there i don't think it's enough to push ows on, not without a little more certainty. ksc getting modkilled was a windfall lol >< but we're running out of lynches pretty quickly here
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On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me
ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP
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On July 16 2015 08:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing
-snorts- if i need to put you on mute again, i will. this push of yours is retarded, baseless, clearly demonstrates you're not actually reading any of my posts, and at best just plain wrong ^^ and i've no interest sitting here fighting with you
you think that you should get special treatment "oh don't say bad things about me, don't scumread me, don't you see it just antagonizes me?" yeah. i'm done treating you with kid gloves, prima dona
and if you start your sniping shit whenever i try to do anything again, i will lynch you ^^
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On July 16 2015 08:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 08:40 Holyflare wrote:On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing -snorts- if i need to put you on mute again, i will. this push of yours is retarded, baseless, clearly demonstrates you're not actually reading any of my posts, and at best just plain wrong ^^ and i've no interest sitting here fighting with you you think that you should get special treatment "oh don't say bad things about me, don't scumread me, don't you see it just antagonizes me?" yeah. i'm done treating you with kid gloves, prima dona and if you start your sniping shit whenever i try to do anything again, i will lynch you ^^ i don't particularly care, you ARE doing exactly what I said, it's not a snipe if you think the opposite can you give me the work that you've done the past 3 cycles and how it has affected the game?
nope ^^ you can read my filter instead of pretending that you have
i'm busy with something that actually matters
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you clearly haven't, and frankly, if you think i haven't noticed that you're perfectly fine with me until i disagree with you and then you turn into a gremlin, calling me mafia instead of just arguing the point, you're grossly mistaken
i don't have to explain or defend myself to you. i've been involved in every major thing, literally every major thing that has gone on in this thread, and i realize that i haven't been at the forefront but y'all already knew i wouldn't be. you completely ignored context to concoct some bs case on me that i frankly ignored because even attempting to address it made me irrationally angry
so no. i am not going to defend my play to you. whenever you feel like getting off your ass and actually attempting to make a genuine read on me that isn't informed by ego, be my guest
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