EPTAlright so let's lynch ruxxar, yes?
##Vote RuXxar
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Alright so let's lynch ruxxar, yes? ##Vote RuXxar | ||
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I do think ruxxar's push on your is super BS which strengthens my read, but that's just from keeping up with thread, I haven't read back. I have a little paranoia where rsoultin is pocketing me super hard BUT I always get this feeling in any game of mafia so.... I'll do some rereading but I expect rsoultin to be super town. Someone brought up she normally leaves a legacy as town but not as scum. I mean obv she wasnt getting nk'd thanks to HF, but can someone confirm this or point out a game where she leaves a legacy every night as town? | ||
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On July 19 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: I haven't had the time to consider your claim yet. Talk to me about it. Why did you decide to jail Obi of all people and not one of the more highly contested people like me? I don't see a benefit for town fake claiming here unless they are in contention for getting lynched the next day. I could see town fake-claiming to save themselves if they had no other way of escape, and that they would also guard one of their strongest town-reads to protect them as well. I don't get the impression that OBI is your strongest town-read so that theory doesn't make sense. It seems like a very unnatural thought, and I don't think you'd think of making that play as town unless you were a real PR. The option as you say is that you're mafia and that you're trying to clear your scum-mate. However that would be an extremely high risk play since it brings a lot of attention to yourself when you weren't previously in contention for getting lynched, and as you said you could've saved it for later when it would've been even more effective. For now I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt as I'm always weary of lynching PR claims. I wouldn't be surprised actually if you were PR since scum has had 2 RBer's this game which is unprecedented and really strong for a scum team. As for Obi, he could still possibly be scum just not a KP carrier (1/3 chance), so not going to give him a free pass for that just yet. Just wanna chime in and say that if obi was scum there's a bigger than 2/3 chance that he would carry KP, unless the other scum are literally EBH+WoS | ||
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On July 18 2015 00:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah you're right, let's not talk about the game and instead lynch the guy who's practically afk so that if/when he flips town we go into lylo with as little information as possible. Good one. | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are we even in this position right now? It's obvious both you/ruxx are town and there's no reason to lynch players who do stuff. Besides, why even spare Wave a day if we're just going to have to deal with him tomorrow? Same deal. Doesn't seem obvious to me. Could you enlighten me please? | ||
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Brilliant deduction, like all your other ones. | ||
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On July 19 2015 04:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Can't really elaborate in detail until I get home, but the bottom line is they're both arguing over nothing. I don't think the points they're bringing up against each other are decent in regards to making either of them scum while I don't think either of them are scummy for bringing them up. Just reads like two townies fighting. I'm treating both you and breshke as confirmed town, I'm going to spend a good amount of time reading stuff in this game later, with the mindset that everyone is null. | ||
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On July 19 2015 04:09 boxerfred wrote: so fun how rsoultin engages ruxxar now the same way she did with hf last day. hf was town. This does not mean anything, dude.. | ||
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On July 19 2015 04:10 rsoultin wrote: isn't it gonna be fun when i flip town and you look the fool ^^ please lynch this guy. he's done literally nothing useful for days. nothing. at. all This makes him scum? He's being told by a lot of people that he's making dumb arguments, yet he just keeps doing it. Hmph. | ||
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On July 19 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote: doing nothing useful for days? yeah? like...how does it make him town? Not saying it does. Although the persistence feels townie. If you tell scum to shut up enough you'd think they would. It's not the greatest argument I admit. | ||
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Rsoultin I feel you treat me different, you're very aggressive with others yet you timidly answer my questions, do you just have a super town read on me or what? | ||
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On July 19 2015 08:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: nothing to elaborate on, you can read vivax's filter for yourself. He died after starting to scumread you and I don't see any reason why he would die over some one like HTS who has a miller claim and is only read scum by boxerfred. so there has to be some sort of merit to his reads. Not a single person was scumreading vivax and LS was confirmed town. You can't wifom the night kills to call ruxxar mafia. You can call ruxxar mafia for other things, though. | ||
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On July 19 2015 08:21 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well I dont think he is mafia so not sure why I would do that. Just saying I could see how I could be wrong. but if rsoultin is on the wagon zero chance i ever vote ruxxar Ruxxar is probably mafia, but rsoultin is voting ruxxar so you're not voting ruxxar, does that about sum it up? | ||
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RuXxar explained later on that this was because he considered me and HF could be masons. Looking back at this, it makes a lot of sense. In fact just so we have it in one place let me put together the known night actions: n1: - scum KP on Palmar <- kind of a standard scum shot - scum KP on Harkon <- apparently he soft claimed some kinda blue role to draw a shot - Damdred RB on ritoky <- cop claim - KelsierSC RB on milo <- cop claim - LS gives HtS a gun - geript tracks damdred to ritoky <- damdred did not deliver KP n2: - scum KP on ritoky <- shot the confirmed cop - scum KP on geript <- shot the confirmed tracker - HtS shoots MZ with gun - KelsierSC RB on milo - LS gives marv a gun n3: - scum KP on harkon <- confirmed vet - scum KP on marv <- good townie - marv shoots scott with gun n4: - scum KP on vivax <- was clearly townie - scum KP on LS <- confirmed gunsmith - Breshke JKs OWS + Show Spoiler [unimportant] + Man we really got fucked by outting 2 cops d1 and scum having 2 roleblockers So looking back I guess I don't understand why scum!ruxxar, "figuring out" that we're masons would not shoot HF over Palmar n1. Palmar wasn't doing much and his votes that day were on town, whereas HF being a mason with someone is probably quite dangerous. So... RuXxar isn't scum? Uh... Yeah I'm pretty confident in that now. ##Unvote Going back to the votes.. I believe breshke's JK claim, it makes a lot of sense. I also believe that if OWS were scum he would very likely be carrying KP, so I'm willing to treat both of them as confirmed town. I still think HtS is likely town but I'll have to read more deeply first so I'll put her at null. I'm also putting EBH back at null, rather than town. I'm also putting bf back at null because of his terrible arguments for the last 3-5 days or so. That leaves us with: Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky Breshke (2): Vivax, XEliteBlueHunter69X rsoultin (2): ruXxar, boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare ruXxar (1): Breshke Earlier I've townread rsoultin for hinting at Trfel's irl issues, which I find hard to believe if rsoultin is scum and trfel is town. I also found it hard to believe if they're both scum, but perhaps I should ignore that and look more closely. I think if rsoultin is scum that makes trfel scum as well. This is because I believe as scum rsoultin would feel bad about using info she has irl to make her fake reads ingame. However if they are both scum she would not feel this way. As town you can't really help it, and she did what appears to be her best to So with my current townreads possible scumteams are: - rsoultin, trfel, EBH - rsoultin, trfel, bf - Trfel, EBH, bf I'm going to have to seriously consider the possibility of rsoultin being scum. If I am wrong about any of my townreads I think it'll be HtS, I'll look there next. Anyway that's my work for tonight, more tomorrow. ##Vote trfel | ||
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