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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 06 2015 21:46 GMT
#1395
On July 07 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:
Alone the emphasis on "1-shot" should give you more of a pause than that


I'm not sure that matters so much to me exactly, I just looked at the op about the 1 shot mechanic. Why should it give me more pause


Id just expect a fakeclaim to be more generic, whereas the mechanic he mentions is more specific, might be falling into the host wifom trap here so better to disregard i suppose
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 06 2015 21:48 GMT
#1397
On July 07 2015 06:48 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 06:46 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote:
On July 07 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:
Alone the emphasis on "1-shot" should give you more of a pause than that


I'm not sure that matters so much to me exactly, I just looked at the op about the 1 shot mechanic. Why should it give me more pause


Id just expect a fakeclaim to be more generic, whereas the mechanic he mentions is more specific, might be falling into the host wifom trap here so better to disregard i suppose

Why would a fakeclaim be more generic? 1-shot is the best fakeclaim.


Yeah makes sense, I was wrong, carry on
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 07:14 GMT
#1827
On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey


dis guy too.....


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.

My vote is serious now.


Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm


On July 06 2015 09:36 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 09:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 09:25 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 09:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey


dis guy too.....


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?

On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.

My vote is serious now.


Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm


what?


What are you unsure of? I didn't care for his vote, although he does explain it decently here -

On July 06 2015 09:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey


dis guy too.....


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?

On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.

My vote is serious now.


Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm


This seems like a major overreaction tbh.
Why are you so pissy about my vote?

Honestly marv doesn't really look like anything, but Hf calling him out when nothing has happened seems a bit out of the ordinary. I'd imagine town!Hf wouldn't even care about Marv at all considering what an easily-resolved player he is.


And I'm not pissy - I just called it a shit vote because, well, it is.

On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


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i don't remember

you dont like hf

but uou like ,marv?

???
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No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)


I don't really follow what this guy's opinion on marv was. In the first post it looks like he wants to incite suspicion and in the second he emphasizes he didn't really care about it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 07:31 GMT
#1831
On July 07 2015 16:28 geript wrote:
Like that's at least the second time he's read something completely wrong in addition to taking things out of context. He's a quite decent lynch as well.


In fact I was reading in context and that post is written so badly Kelsier had to ask again as well (wanna lynch him too?), and I see no other version that makes sense.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 07:34 GMT
#1832
Why am I talking to this guy? It was obvious from the start he's mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 07:43 GMT
#1836
On July 07 2015 16:39 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
Kelsier wrote:
i don't remember

you dont like hf

but uou like ,marv?

???

Show nested quote +
Scott wrote:
No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)


Seems quite clear. Kelsier's all like, "LOL WUT??? U LIKE MARV'S BIG GAY DICK?" Scott's all like, "U RED DAT RONG BITCH. I DON'T LIKE MARV BUT HE MAY BE WAITING FOR PALMER."

I understand that english isn't your first language. But your comprehension is terrible. Somehow you thought Oats was the thread sentiment when I pushed him. Now you're trying to make a case where there's literally nothing there. You're completely divorced from any sort of actual reality. I'm just trying to figure out if you're a few nuts short of a fruitcake or if you're plain old mafia. Either way, you're a detriment.

fixed for prettiness


Meanwhile, you left the point of posting this out of that equation:

Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm


Tell me how it fits in with what he says afterwards, Sherlock.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 07:54 GMT
#1838
On July 07 2015 16:50 geript wrote:
It's pretty clear. In the first he's talking about Marv lacking impetus to post/play as mafia. In the second he's saying maybe Marv is town wants to have fun with Palmer instead of other shit. But Scott is clear that he still doesn't like the low activity. They're conflicting thoughts along the same line. It's not Marv clearly 100% mafia then Marv clearly maybe 50% mafia. It's, "I don't like Marv's low activity and that makes me think he's mafia but maybe he just wants to be chill this game instead of 20p filters. This isn't rocket science.


This is what you say in your odd confidence, not what he said. You also leave out the part from the second post where he said he didn't care about marv previously but the first post is formulated as if.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 17:58 GMT
#2414
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 18:02 GMT
#2420
On July 08 2015 02:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


Are you still getting the same scum vibes from Damdred?


Dunno have to read him in his entirety.

For now I'd like to ask why we're voting the claimed cop.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 18:07 GMT
#2425
I decided that Trfel can die too, so if HF wants a lynch on him he can have my vote.

I saw no elaboration on his scott scumread and the talk about LS looks like he just needed that read to have something to talk about. His HF suspicion fell into the water as well.

Instead what we get are a bunch of apologetic posts and empty promises.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 18:10 GMT
#2431
On July 08 2015 03:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:59 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


Are you still getting the same scum vibes from Damdred?


Dunno have to read him in his entirety.

For now I'd like to ask why we're voting the claimed cop.


The behaviour imo doesn't back his claim up, the point was also made that 1-shot anything is an easy claim to make.

If you look at his reads throughout all of day 1, he presents two lists of reads (ls/milo/x) and then of those scumreading him (damdred, ksc,myself and a 4th) and just assumes soemone on there is scum profiting off a bad read which in of itself ISN'T a bad thing however, you'd be expecting some follow through on those initial reads. He was asked if he had any scumreads and he apparently didn't have any and he scumread and dropped OWS - at this point it's not clear where his scumreads are in the game. He did post he'd be on low activity and I can appreciate that with RL but he doesn't need a 20 page filter to make a shortlist of top scumreads.


The arguments on Trfel are similar given he also has two reads he didn't really follow through with, AND he didn't claim a role that's gonna get confirmed or not by his survival over the nights. Killing ritoky feels like an unnecessary risk. It's irrational imo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 18:20 GMT
#2441
On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.

Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick.

1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something.
2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you.
3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me.
4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town.

Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing.


Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point.

What's your read on the dude?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 18:26 GMT
#2445
On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.

Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick.

1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something.
2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you.
3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me.
4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town.

Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing.


Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point.

What's your read on the dude?

I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him.


Why the strong preference for ritoky then?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 18:28 GMT
#2450
What didn't you like about my push on geript Ruxxar.

IS it hard to understand that I think he's exaggerating some aspects of his play to try looking more townie?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 18:30 GMT
#2453
On July 08 2015 03:27 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:26 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:
On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.

Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick.

1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something.
2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you.
3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me.
4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town.

Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing.


Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point.

What's your read on the dude?

I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him.


Why the strong preference for ritoky then?

No idea where you see a strong preference.


The moment you started arguing about why it doesn't matter if ritoky claimed cop (which tells me that between two people you now say have equal preference you prefer the guy claiming), plus the lack of Trfel in your filter.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 19:06 GMT
#2509
Not a big fan of this milo wagon. He seems like a newbie to me
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 19:28 GMT
#2544
Marv I have no idea why you're scumreading milo. Do I have to look harder?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 19:32 GMT
#2556
Somebody should have told milo that to survive a D1 on TL mafia you have to be marv's personal slave.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 19:46 GMT
#2593
Obi I don't believe you really believe that mafia isn't able to say that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2610
On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.


And you point this out to push what lynch instead?
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