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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 14:49 GMT
#2091
ehh im going to go to bed so i have a chance of being around at deadline.

Night all
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:08 GMT
#2788
Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:19 GMT
#2805
On July 08 2015 06:11 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel slightly martyred and the wagon came off of him to milo
Milo claimed two shot cop and was taken off of him
Har hard defended Rsoul so we can't lynch her
MZ actually posted "let me read" and voted Clarity and the wagon jumped on him

Are you still scumreading me Breshke?


I'm not sure. I kinda of tried to read your filter but it sucks on phone. before I answer Scott do you normally take notes for games?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:23 GMT
#2814
Yeah I'm going to switch my vote over SOZ meatpak if you are town
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:32 GMT
#2839
Let's be real here, we arnt going to be able to get majority on someone else in half an hour. The only was we don't lynch MZ here is if someone can explain why he is lock town for the rest of the game.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:36 GMT
#2857
People defending MZ and not suggesting another lunch and trying to see how many people are to switch what are you trying to achieve?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:36 GMT
#2858
Lynch****
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:40 GMT
#2872
Okay so who is actually here who is willing to switch could switch to BM

ME hf geript Marv LS rsoul harkon MZ

That's 8 am I missing anyone?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:42 GMT
#2882
Okay clarity are you in? Hats are you in?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:43 GMT
#2887
Hats fml I ment hts
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:46 GMT
#2904
Was Scott not in the thread like 5 minutes ago?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:48 GMT
#2919
MZ what makes BM different is you know you are town but you don't know he is town. Seems fairly simple
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:49 GMT
#2925
On July 08 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
You guys switching off MZ are not thinking clearly.

What if mafia switches off then don't switch back?
GG no-lynch.


Then we lynch the people that don't switch back?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:51 GMT
#2941
On July 08 2015 06:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 08 2015 06:48 Breshke wrote:
MZ what makes BM different is you know you are town but you don't know he is town. Seems fairly simple

Right but my question is if there are enough people on line which there seems to be then why don't we go for someone like trfl, milo, or even vivax who is looking worse the more I read?


Because there will be one person who won't want to lynch someone who has actually done something and then we won't get a lynch.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 21:56 GMT
#2980
On July 08 2015 06:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sigh.

I know my own innocence. I think it's terrible to vote for someone just for the sake of killing them and I'd love to go after one of the actual people I'm suspicious of but if we HAVE to have a lynch today then BM it is.


Then try actually being around before EOD your resistance is not doing anything
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 22:04 GMT
#3037
Scott did you answer if you take notes in games? I'm going back to sleep be round later probably
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 08 2015 01:09 GMT
#3114
On July 08 2015 07:18 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 08 2015 07:04 Breshke wrote:
Scott did you answer if you take notes in games? I'm going back to sleep be round later probably


I didn't see that post? Yes I have but not as concise since this was my first 25 man, the others were easier to keep track of and basically were lists so I didn't forget people.

NSM VIII+ Show Spoiler +

Plotspot  M Holyflare
Scott31337  M
Bourneq 
Damdred  VT Slight Townlean
ObiWanShinobi  Townlean
LightningStrike  VT
TheBloodyDwarf  Dead
Trfel  Dead Townlean
Onegu  VT VT Recinded Blue ?
Bill Murray  Dead
The Shining 
cakepie  Dead
LeiNadk  M Bussed me case

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scott31337 Me/M
Tictock
Rels
plotspot
boxerfred M
disformation
Barakos
Sulfurus
27ninjabunnies M
Bill Murray
Breshke
sicklucker
batsnacks

Guardians+ Show Spoiler +

1. NydusHerMain slight town

2. Onegu slight town

3. VisceraEyes above slight town

4. sicklucker null

5. GGTemplar null

6. Chocolate slight scummy

7. Kickstart null to slight town

8. ritoky townie

9. Fidei86 slight scummy/below templar

10. milo109 null

11. Tictock slight town

12. scott31337 Me

13. Damdred slight town

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1) -Celestial- unsure what to think
2) Tictock Mentioned noob twice ?
3) y0su slight
4) disformation  Made post about posting lots of smilies, forgot about it - then started remembering readding them
5) scott31337 Me
6) ritoky  Null/little more
7) The Shining Townlean
8) Half the Sky  Null
9) Superbia  Townlean
10) FecalFeast  Townlean
11) prplhz  Meh
12) sicklucker  Crap post
13) Stutters695 Crap post

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1) Marvellosity  townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  Lynched Day 1 Wanderer
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OWS
9) geript  slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  One catch up in the thread post - inactive/scummy
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading - claimed two shot cop
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town - hard defends Rsoul
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town


Where are the ones from your scum games?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 08 2015 01:15 GMT
#3117
Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 08 2015 02:15 GMT
#3128
On July 08 2015 10:17 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:
Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.


pretty sure i saw it, too


Nah i don't think what you saw is what i saw because what i saw is dumb.

SO what gives me pause about scott is from the following two posts.

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On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote:
Pointless Conversation

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On July 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote:
Hi.

I need to go take a sauna now. Raynpelikoneet would approve, I assume

I'll probably be mostly active in the evenings, lately I've been busier during the day. So if you scumread me for lack of activity or lack of active discussion, you'll be wrong.

Anyway, this should be a fun (if spammy) game. And an easy win. Scum, you don't have a chance.





but, but, but...

this was our favorite!

;o; judas
Yes, but you see the song I linked has a (terrible) connection to the point I am attempting to convey. "Sports Song" is my favorite from Weird Al's recent songs, anyway.



On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel

Super over explained afk entry excuse post

You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on...

Scum #2 I've caught.


Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post.


There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax?
Do you normally miss jokes?



On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup!


Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic?


it's cool

i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy
Do not! Only that one time....

If you must know, I wrote my entrance post for this game after the Day post....



On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup!


Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic?


it's cool

i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy

I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game.
Thanks for the confidence WaveofShadow, but she most definitely can read me...



On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far?



I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that.

trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times

Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet


do you have anymore town?



Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads.


ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent.

what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum?


I said we can't both be scum

Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful.


-squints at-

lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right?



You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little.

I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree?
I don't even....



On July 06 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
chem work to do...
Well now I'm feeling pretty stupid...



On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.
This is really stupid, but I think this post actually gets him a town lean...








On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote:
Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning.

When you wake up care to give me your thoughts?
Has LightningStrike ever used phrasing like this before?



At the moment, I'm most suspicious of (in no order) scott31337, LightningStrike, and Holyflare.

I'm suspicious of LightningStrike partially because of what Damdred said. While Damdred's point wasn't great, LightningStrike's response (looking up the games that were missing from his initial post) seems very telling.

Furthermore, I don't think that LightningStrike has ever used the phrasing in the above quote as town. Usually, he says "please give me your reads" or "what are your reads, please" or something like that. In contrast, "care to give me your thoughts" is far more reserved. And the rest of LightningStrike's posting in this game is far more aggressive than I'm used to seeing from him.

It feels like the strongest argument against LightningStrike is how his play has been affected by the pressure he's been under. As people bring up different things, he posts in different ways as a result.

Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game)



This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda.

I don't like this post at all.

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On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hype! And already information.


Holyflare claiming VT is interesting. Doesn't seem something scum would do or think of this quickly after PMs went out/daypost went up.


Not lynching him today.

strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim?


Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy...

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On July 06 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote:
You have been following the VT claim blindly, which is sheeping.


I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul.

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On July 06 2015 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485712-carnaval-do-brasil-mafia?user=rsoultin&page=5
Shit load of xP, shes mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=rsoultin&page=9
way less xP, shes town.

Clearly this is definitive proof that rsoul is mafia.

Marv, you arent gonna look at the voting thread unless you vote.
Its completely pointless to vote there unless you need to do it to not get modkilled and to actually make your vote count.

I assume boxer doesnt exactly know what sheeping is.


Good case - could sheep...

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On July 06 2015 22:57 boxerfred wrote:
Okay i hardclaim cop


This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion.

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On July 06 2015 23:36 boxerfred wrote:
Yep sorry, just contributing from mobile in the Bus, throwing out ideas.
Yeah and im no cop.


I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...

I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity  townie after the morning
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar  slight town
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim
8) ritoky  slight town
9) geript  slight town
10) boxerfred  null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh 
12) Trfel  Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike  Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke  Ehh
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon  Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X 

I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.


On July 08 2015 03:54 scott31337 wrote:
So about Milo -

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On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.
On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing.


i thought the same about that comment


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On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?


He replies with
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On July 07 2015 10:47 milo109 wrote:
It was his filter. I haven't read Trfel's case yet. Good on him though.


And his reasons are

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On July 07 2015 10:50 milo109 wrote:
I hate all these posts.

On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
no, i'm the copcake!

...........


On July 06 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I liking you this game KSC if you care just don't be a dick to me this game please? <3



On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share?



Some quotes which I really do not see LS as alignment indictive - which is one of the reasons I think milo is scummy.

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On July 08 2015 02:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not feeling an HTS lynch.

Try again town.


The most townie thing OWS has done all game.

My updated spreadsheet -

1) Marvellosity  townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim/hasn't done shit otherwise, no CC
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OBS
9) geript  slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  No posts still as of yet.
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town

I'm down most for a Milo lynch. I'm caught up in the thread.

@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?

@Breshke are you still scumreading me? Can you give me the reasoning of such?


They are in spoilers because they are too long. So at first glance I really don't like his lists like I said before it isn't inquisitive it is just surface stuff. But then I realised it isn't actually a reads list it is his own like nots list so he can rememebr what he was thinking about people in the game. This is why i asked if he normally takes notes and i started leaning a little townie on him because of this because yeah you can take notes as scum because in a big game like this youll probs need it BUT STILL it felt townie.

BUT THEN you look through the rest of his filter and all the people he has marked as like scumlean or w/e he doesn't pursue or pressure or anything really. So he isn't interested in his own reads he is interested in just posting in the thread and he is mafia
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On July 08 2015 10:28 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:
Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.


He's town.

Do you believe both cop claims?


milo's claim was in the 40 pages I havn't read so can't say much about that.

I think ritokys claim makes sense if you believe the facts that 1. he would be busy 2. he believed it was instant majority.

I also don't think the fact that there is a flipped wanderer has any bearing on the the cop claims. I also think there can be a 1 shot cop and a 2 shot cop because why the hell not.
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