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On July 17 2015 05:10 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 05:07 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 05:05 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2015 05:01 Vivax wrote:On July 09 2015 14:15 Breshke wrote:
That's a really sick post clarity.
Especially like why the fuck did he try a fake check when ritoky claimed RB and he doesn't think there can be two mafia rb's.
I almost want to lynch milo first now but damdred would be the mafia RB'r so yeah On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.
##Vote Milo Yeah let's do Breshke, cmon people ! ##Unvote
##Vote Breshke On July 16 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote:
I also NEVER said lynching damdred over milo would be bad i said it didnt matter at the time WHO we lynched because i was under the assumption there was 1 RB and they were BOTH mafia. In wich case the two claimed investigative roles who had claimed a the time that i believed were never getting a cheack off no matter who we lynched.
didn't hate his explanation You should, because if they're both scum there is 0 reason to not kill the RB first, unless you're scum. I'm more confident on ruxxar than I am on breshke though, but you seem committed to want to die so just die and then whine postgame about how LS sucked despite you ruining an entire day. Or be scum, whatever. Humor me, if I'm scum then who's mafia with me?
I don't know dude. That comes after.
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On July 17 2015 05:14 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 04:44 ruXxar wrote:
Here's something I need to say:
When town decides to just train onto someone it means that either they're lynching a townie or someone is bussing real hard.
Just look at the votes right now.
HF is at 9 votes. If he was mafia and his mafia partners are bussing him, they could easily switch off to another target to guarantee a no-lynch.
Since everyone seems dead-set on lynching HF, it pretty much points to this being 1 of 2 options:
Option 1)
HF is mafia together with 2 of these people:
EBH
Boxerfred
Breshke
Option 2)
HF is town and mafia + town are voting on him.
I have a townlean on boxerfred and slight townlean on EBH.
I know I'm town, so the likelyhood of there being mafia in the vote on HF right now is really high.
I need you guys to think about this, and think real hard.
- If HF flips scum, then it's almost guaranteed that the mafia are among the people not voting on him.
- If HF flips town, then it's almost guaranteed that the mafia are voting on him right now.
I don't see a world where mafia bus HF here.
If HF flips scum you'll find the mafia among these people:
EBH
BF
Breshke
If he flips town, then mafia are voting on him right now. I second that. Strongly. Want to add that it is still possible that people who did not vote yet are among the scum team no matter how he flips. So it's a) voters of HF + people who did not vote until now or b) yeah, ebh me or breshke. I know that I'm town so EBH + Breshke. The irony is though that we can only safely lynch among us 3 if HF flips scum. Which means we can't today. Or not?
Look bf, you just play the game wrong. Why is it not possible for 2 scum to be on HF and 1 scum to not be voting, or 3 on HF and 0 not voting him.
The only thing that's fair to say is that if HF is town, at least 1 vote on him is scum as I highly doubt all scum would sit around and suck their thumbs.
These conclusions that you are drawing are ABSURD.
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On July 17 2015 05:17 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 05:14 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 04:44 ruXxar wrote:
Here's something I need to say:
When town decides to just train onto someone it means that either they're lynching a townie or someone is bussing real hard.
Just look at the votes right now.
HF is at 9 votes. If he was mafia and his mafia partners are bussing him, they could easily switch off to another target to guarantee a no-lynch.
Since everyone seems dead-set on lynching HF, it pretty much points to this being 1 of 2 options:
Option 1)
HF is mafia together with 2 of these people:
EBH
Boxerfred
Breshke
Option 2)
HF is town and mafia + town are voting on him.
I have a townlean on boxerfred and slight townlean on EBH.
I know I'm town, so the likelyhood of there being mafia in the vote on HF right now is really high.
I need you guys to think about this, and think real hard.
- If HF flips scum, then it's almost guaranteed that the mafia are among the people not voting on him.
- If HF flips town, then it's almost guaranteed that the mafia are voting on him right now.
I don't see a world where mafia bus HF here.
If HF flips scum you'll find the mafia among these people:
EBH
BF
Breshke
If he flips town, then mafia are voting on him right now. I second that. Strongly. Want to add that it is still possible that people who did not vote yet are among the scum team no matter how he flips. So it's a) voters of HF + people who did not vote until now or b) yeah, ebh me or breshke. I know that I'm town so EBH + Breshke. The irony is though that we can only safely lynch among us 3 if HF flips scum. Which means we can't today. Or not? Look bf, you just play the game wrong. Why is it not possible for 2 scum to be on HF and 1 scum to not be voting, or 3 on HF and 0 not voting him. The only thing that's fair to say is that if HF is town, at least 1 vote on him is scum as I highly doubt all scum would sit around and suck their thumbs. These conclusions that you are drawing are ABSURD. I don't get it. I'm saying: "look, there are possibly scum members among the people who hadn't vote yet". You're saying "hy is it not possible for 2 scum to be on HF and 1 scum to not be voting" yet what I'm saying is ABSURD? You're weird and I will stop listening to you for a time.
It's ridiculous analysis that doesn't go anywhere and just takes up space.
Our options are:
HF is town:
- 1 scum on HF
- 2 scum on HF
- 3 scum on HF
HF is scum:
- 0 scum on HF
- 1 scum on HF
- 2 scum on HF
SUCH ANALYSIS WOW, LET'S EXTRAPOLATE.
There could be scum in the non-voters? WOW HOW INTERESTING.
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On July 17 2015 05:19 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 05:10 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2015 05:07 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 05:05 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2015 05:01 Vivax wrote:On July 09 2015 14:15 Breshke wrote:
That's a really sick post clarity.
Especially like why the fuck did he try a fake check when ritoky claimed RB and he doesn't think there can be two mafia rb's.
I almost want to lynch milo first now but damdred would be the mafia RB'r so yeah On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.
##Vote Milo Yeah let's do Breshke, cmon people ! ##Unvote
##Vote Breshke On July 16 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote:
I also NEVER said lynching damdred over milo would be bad i said it didnt matter at the time WHO we lynched because i was under the assumption there was 1 RB and they were BOTH mafia. In wich case the two claimed investigative roles who had claimed a the time that i believed were never getting a cheack off no matter who we lynched.
didn't hate his explanation You should, because if they're both scum there is 0 reason to not kill the RB first, unless you're scum. I'm more confident on ruxxar than I am on breshke though, but you seem committed to want to die so just die and then whine postgame about how LS sucked despite you ruining an entire day. Or be scum, whatever. Humor me, if I'm scum then who's mafia with me? I don't know dude. That comes after. Really? You haven't even thought about whether or not it makes sense that I'm mafia together with someone? You know you have to piece together teams that actually makes sense right? Good luck when you get to lylo and there's 3 mafia alive and you all start scum reading each other. That's how I lost my newbie game because us townies were too dumb to piece together who could or couldn't be mafia together and just looked at the scummiest player who happened to be a townie playing scummy. So yeah, have fun with that.
Theres 14 people in the game, bro.
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Hi rsoultin, I'm scum now?
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I expect HtS to die tonight rsoultin so I wouldn't worry much about her atm, if she lives maybe look into her.
I think EBH(VA)/vivax are town.
I still think boxerfred is town for his dumbtell and his stuff prior to it (although I hated his d4). Oats still town too.
I'm willing to sheep geript regarding WoS, although how he hasn't been modkilled is beyond me.
Nearly everybody seems to be okay with a ruxxar lynch which seems weird.
Hey rsoultin it seems you did a lot of swearing in carnaval, not so much in this game, is that because of BH or?
+ Show Spoiler [irrelevant stuff] +inb4 postgame where everyone tells me that despite HF being town, I was reading him town for the wrong reasons all game, while at the same time telling me I should not have lynched him for martyring.
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On July 17 2015 23:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 23:03 Clarity_nl wrote:I expect HtS to die tonight rsoultin so I wouldn't worry much about her atm, if she lives maybe look into her. I think EBH(VA)/vivax are town. I still think boxerfred is town for his dumbtell and his stuff prior to it (although I hated his d4). Oats still town too. I'm willing to sheep geript regarding WoS, although how he hasn't been modkilled is beyond me. Nearly everybody seems to be okay with a ruxxar lynch which seems weird. Hey rsoultin it seems you did a lot of swearing in carnaval, not so much in this game, is that because of BH or? + Show Spoiler [irrelevant stuff] +inb4 postgame where everyone tells me that despite HF being town, I was reading him town for the wrong reasons all game, while at the same time telling me I should not have lynched him for martyring. If you're about to say you think i'm town because i'm not swearing as much that's main lol >< it's situational and I can't neither confirm not sent a also on the wrist for saying a certain vitriolic player was turning into a gremlin every time I disagreed with him xP which btw is prob why he changed his tone at around that time as well assuming the thing I came neither confirm nor deny actually happened ^^
Just something I noticed, wondered if you had an explanation. I shouldn't have brought it up tbh.
HtS could you explain your breshke townread?
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Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky
Breshke (2): Vivax, XEliteBlueHunter69X
rsoultin (2): ruXxar, boxerfred
ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare
ruXxar (1): Breshke
Here's where I stand, which actually makes the lynches quite easy. I would start with ruxxar, then OWS + Breshke in some order and then rsoultin if necesarry, easy game.
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I think the HF lynch was quite uncomfortable for scum. I'm quite confident the first few people on it are town (if you wanna ignore WoS that's fine), which means that scum either had to waffle around umm-ing and ahh-ing or they jumped on the wagon later. Scum are always very self-conscious about where their vote is and if their reasoning makes sense, so they don't have the instinctual pounce that town players have, by the time they've thought things through there's 5 town on HF and they have to figure out where to go from there.
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On July 18 2015 00:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
You all talk too much.
Just vote wave tomorrow.
Yeah you're right, let's not talk about the game and instead lynch the guy who's practically afk so that if/when he flips town we go into lylo with as little information as possible.
Good one.
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8% of posts in a 25 man game where half the field is dead, hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Yeah you're right that does seem excessive compared to the field.
I too hate reading text in a mafia game.
Anyway, WoS is a terrible lynch today. Who do you wanna lynch instead?
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On July 18 2015 00:36 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
That ship has essentially sailed, although this is good i doubt mafia would want to be seen hard pushing wave atm
I don't think this is true if town is heading in the right direction.
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Hi Vivax. My argument early d1 wasn't "1 of us is scum" it was "we can't be scum together" and it was to jumpstart discussion, that said I stand by it that I would never approach my scummate that way that early in the day.
I think my WoS unvote was fine, I liked his explanation of "preplanned is dumb" and his "I dunno what it means" stuff.
You're also ignoring that damdred made a huge case on me near the end of d1 >.>
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On July 18 2015 03:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hi Vivax. My argument early d1 wasn't "1 of us is scum" it was "we can't be scum together" and it was to jumpstart discussion, that said I stand by it that I would never approach my scummate that way that early in the day.
I think my WoS unvote was fine, I liked his explanation of "preplanned is dumb" and his "I dunno what it means" stuff.
You're also ignoring that damdred made a huge case on me near the end of d1 >.> ad bold 1: Why would you ever think about your scummates as town? ad bold 2: Did you mention this somewhere earlier? Cause it's clear you were aware of this all the time and didn't just go look it up right now.
1. I just did, shrug. After my made my first post I considered how our interaction looked and then realized I could come to this conclusion.
2. Someone else brought it up as a point in my defense at some point, I don't remember who.
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I'll give you a proper response in a bit, currently busy.
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I agree it doesn't suddenly make me confirmed town but you did kinda just skip it in your case.
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In fact my reaction to damdred "hard bussing" me, I called him town because I kinda liked his case.
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On July 18 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him?
It wasn't any deep analysis or anything. I thought his townread on me made no sense but "preplanned is dumb and clarity is tryharding" was good enough.
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I can even remember something I posted that can't make rsoultin and me scum together WIFOM ALERT WIFOM ALERT. I had a revelation in thread where rsoultin's posts were just noise because of her bloody smileys.
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On July 18 2015 03:53 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:52 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 18 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him? It wasn't any deep analysis or anything. I thought his townread on me made no sense but "preplanned is dumb and clarity is tryharding" was good enough. Do you think that the way Damdred, Kelsier and rso questioned you and dropped you is a mere coincidence in the case of rso?
I think that's more likely than 3 scum having the exact same approach towards me. If rsoultin is scum it's not because she did the same things as kelsier and damdred at a certain point in the game
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