On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote: - pg. 66 1-shot dumbledore
move on.
On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote: - pg. 124 I want to lynch ten people.
Damdred Scott Ritoky HF HtS Clarity Kelsier LS Rsoul Vaxx(whatever his name is)
Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little.
On July 08 2015 23:14 milo109 wrote: - pg. 169 after milo's cop claim The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game.
^ like, maybe this post from milo is just pragmatism, but he has rit as his 3rd suspect after ritoky's claim, and the only mention that i can find of rit between this switch is here:
On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote: Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.
HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?
??? there's no indication of where his read changed?
like it doesn't matter if rit flips cop before milo claims, but afterwards, that makes milo look bad. lol >< so yeah i can see people coming to that conclusion well before the tracker claim on d2, in all honesty. not sure how tmi it is?
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?
He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.
If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS
sorry to keep distracing you
I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
that was where i waffled?
like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-
i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"
hold on let me review something...
For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia.
On July 12 2015 02:52 Harkon wrote: Wtf happened to that post? Anyways. I just remember tagteaming MZ with Koshi. Koshi was such a joy to play with back then and also somewhat sane. Sadness.
i have never known a sane koshi :/
i kinda enjoy playing with him now, though ^^ i'm twisted that way i guess?
still, the reaction to rit's claim holds >< i didn't think to look at it before
like if you're cop, right, and someone claims your role usually you just flat-out don't believe them? or at least spend some considerable amount of time trying to get them to engage to see if there's any remote possibility that there may actually be two of you
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?
He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.
If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: [quote]
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS
sorry to keep distracing you
I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
that was where i waffled?
like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-
i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"
hold on let me review something...
For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia.
LOL he is totes scum I saw some of this behavior of MZ in the first two pages of his filter LOL. I will more of it later but who I gave the gun to in the mean time: Shoot MZ or I will get town to lynch you.
All but Confirmed 21. ritoky - obv 20. geript - doesn't really make sense for him to do this as scum...0.001% chance he's pulling a sl lol >< 19. harkon - ditto
Mostly Confirmed 18. ls - see earlier posts, plus he's not really what i'd call a ballsy scum player. extra kp confirms him
Prob Town 17. marv - tonally town...maybe a bit too nice? but i think i'd rather chalk that up to "fulfilled" (teehee) given his investment 16. clarity - fluid reads, good unique points 15. oats - very very similar to when i rolled scum against him and not at all like the lurky scum!oats...can follow his thoughts 14. bresh - few key posts that demonstrate that lovely bresh mind <3
Maaaaaybe Town? 13. WoS - checked his recent scum/town games and ye...plus i know he takes pride in his scum game. still...not comfortable calling him strong town for doing jack-all, as that's an easily replicated meta 12. Viva - mindset looks very similar to what i expect of town viva, particularly the early push on geript 11. HtS - eh, she's not the easiest for me to read. only one picking up what i'm throwing down in some cases, which makes me a bit paranoid if i'm wrong on some things...bit more traffic copping than i'd like. that said, no real red flags? 10. Kels - super fallen off, but his early posting was awesome and the interactions between him and damdy makes it unlikely they're scum together in my mind 9. OWS - can't really read him as well either, but i see good direction to his posts and especially like his push on scott 8. Trfel - pooooosssibly just here cause i don't want to admit i may be wrong? >> more seriously, still think he's town on tone but i have absolutely no other reason to think he is -_- and that's bugging me enough to keep him in the leans
Null 7. EBH - very hot and cold for me...reminds me of a certain player who i can't read worth a damn @.@ with all that nk focus stuff, but coming in to criticize the lynch after the fact? blah 6. BF - i'm at this weird place where it seems like he's pushing his reads and even reevaluating some (see: clarity), but the fall-off during the night phase is somewhat off-putting, and what's even stranger is he appears to be defending me but i didn't remember anything about him until i opened his filter, or remember him engaging me at all? 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh
Scum Lean 4. ruxx - still reevaluating separate of his odd tunnel on me...my biggest beef with him that keeps him here and not null was his reluctance to move off mz d1 cause "scum could force a no-lynch"...the thought is fine, but the execution wasn't, as he stayed on well after there was no chance of lynching mz without several of the players on bm switching back...if mz is scum, though, obv this changes
Scum 3. scott - made several posts about him already...biggest problem is i'm not seeing a clear progression from reads to voting behavior 2. milo - see the post on his reaction to rit's claim, on top of the obv 1. hf - it really fucking irritates me how he likes to come in and just snipe at me for the hell of it...i was fully willing to work with him and put the trfel thing behind us, but he's right there pinging me for useless shit...like telling me to shut up when i'm catching up and his bm snipe while voting bm...too much fighting with everyone and not just me, while everything (his attitude, not scumreading damdy, etc. etc.) is apparently my fault? he just pulled this shit in himalayas and i have a hard time seeing him as town here. in short...bang! bang!
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote: Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.
nh
can you flesh any of these out for me?
i don't actually have a ton to talk about today, but if you're actually town here and we're making a mistake, it would be nice to have your thoughts, and i'll talk to you about them as much as you want?
meeeh actually, milo...can you also address your read on rit? you were happy to lynch him after his claim...third scumread i believe...but then you changed your mind and i couldn't find anything in your filter to explain that change other than claiming cop yourself?
On July 12 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote: meeeh actually, milo...can you also address your read on rit? you were happy to lynch him after his claim...third scumread i believe...but then you changed your mind and i couldn't find anything in your filter to explain that change other than claiming cop yourself?
His WIFOM read on me. I understand what it is, and why he doesn't want to say it.
?? is there any reason you can't say it?
lol >< meh i don't really want to talk about hf right now
i kinda understand bf and scott but not really clarity. why does there have to be scum between him and mz exactly? like i though damdy voted awfully quick on clarity...a bit wifomy, i know, but if you're really town and were roleblocked, he knew that your check was fake, so it wasn't because he was afraid you'd actually gotten a red check?
i'm practically willing to clear clarity on that alone, frankly, but i also just like a lot of his posting when i've been in-thread
EPT
that and i kind of fit in with em lol
