EPTTL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 25
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On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote: if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking I don't think bf, who is in no danger to get lynched would go "hurr do how many scum are there" as scum to get some kinda wifom towncred. The much simpler explanation is that he just can't read and he's town  The problem I have with this game is that if either you or hts is scum you're not gonna get caught cause you're like the only reasonable people that post consistently, and it's very easy to be reasonable when town is flailing. Btw LS is gunsmith there's like 0% that he's not, he gave a gun to hts and hts confirmed it. So even if hts is scum and shot MZ that doesn't make LS any less confirmed town. | ||
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I've reread EBH and despite all the "woe is me, nobody listen" I do have a townlean on him now. Harkon and marv both thought vivax was town (or had a townlean) so I guess I'm keeping that.. I don't see what HtS is talking about in regards to breshke, he looks like someone who has a decent chance of flipping scum to me. I can't wrap my head around ruxxar, but I'd be up for lynching him at some point. | ||
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On July 16 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote: But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no? I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative. Well if he really doesn't know how many mafia there are then that IS alignment indicative. So if he is scum that means he is faking this whole thing, does it look like he's faking to you? | ||
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But hey if you're going to make a case, good for you. | ||
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On July 16 2015 07:36 Holyflare wrote: Your whole "fuck you holyflare" was totally blown out of proportion and silly, you are complaining that nothing is happening "because of hf" yet you aren't actively trying to do anything yourself. You have silly impossible town reads on people (me) while people are constantly telling you otherwise, in fact JAT told you that my scum read on Obi was entirely fictitious and you didn't bat an eyelid and still called me towny. You keep saying i'm town based on nothing and won't ever look at my mafia games to tell you otherwise and are constantly saying you'll check but never do. You have a lot of questions and stuff saying "gj" but not much content yourself other than little side remarks on people. Despite JAT saying my read on Obi was fictitious and HtS telling you otherwise you still made a scenario where you would base your read on Obi on my flip. That is both irrational and silly (scummy) because you can just go "oh look what hf said must be true let's lynch obi!" A lot of your play has been similar to all the things I have just mentioned. I was gonna do work but then you martyred so now I'm just policy lynching you. Are you gonna play? There's plenty of time still. JAT said the case was wrong but I disagree *shrug* | ||
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On July 16 2015 07:09 Clarity_nl wrote: But I guess being negative doesn't do anything. I've reread EBH and despite all the "woe is me, nobody listen" I do have a townlean on him now. Harkon and marv both thought vivax was town (or had a townlean) so I guess I'm keeping that.. I don't see what HtS is talking about in regards to breshke, he looks like someone who has a decent chance of flipping scum to me. I can't wrap my head around ruxxar, but I'd be up for lynching him at some point. Like it's low effort but it's effort. Your martyring really made me stop caring all that much about the game. | ||
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A couple of thoughts: I can't explain my townread on your properly by quoting a bunch of posts. It's combination of having the same thoughts as you, liking your approaches to things (even your screaming at rsoulting for getting in the way of your scumhunting) and general tone. Part of your push on OWS relied on meta, part of it didn't. The thing made sense as a whole to me. I have since eased up on OWS and prefer a breshke lynch, but I'm perfectly fine with lynching you at this point. I simply do not have the energy to go read an entire different game that I haven't played in for meta purposes unless I absolutely have to, it's hard enough keeping up with a game that's going on in real time, I've tried reading games that have finished on multiple occasions and it's just not the same, reading filters ignores all context which leads to bad conclusions. | ||
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On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote: I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on... I mean it appears he's somewhat playing. I'll reconsider in the morning. Please read up on breshke, his filter isn't that long. | ||
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Decisions decisions. Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS. | ||
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However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb. HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum. Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better" I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. | ||
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On July 16 2015 22:35 Holyflare wrote: I'm sorry how is this timely? What use is scum reading the person who was hard defending me? Do you even think about what you write before you post it? I was in a dark tunnel of shit and now I'm out of it and have a good idea about the game. If you had thought it made me scum you would have brought it up earlier? Not wait till you're the main wagon and then go "btw clarity scum" I wasn't hard defending you I let people attack you as much as they wanted. Bringing up your own meta to astonishing detail is not actually helping you. The moment you identify your own meta is the moment you can break it and then claim "look I can't be scum because X". You've brought up your own meta so often this game and you've even shown that you have read your own filter multiple times this game. I was willing to scratch that off as just having a massive head but now I think it's because you're scum trying to keep your story straight. You just look like you're flailing now. Like you definitely could still be town (hedge hedge) but the chance of you being scum has gone up a ton. Combine the things that I said with harkon being convinced you're scum and marv not giving a read on you when he's normally super chatty about whatever (which means he's unsure) and I'm liking this lynch. | ||
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As town however you would have brought it up much earlier if you truly believed it made me scum, because as town you don't give a shit if someone is townreading you or not, you give a shit if they are scum. If you thought I was scum you would have brought it up, so the 180 makes no sense from a town perspective. | ||
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