okay, first interaction, you cut out the part where i left off that interaction completely and was talking to bresh while hf was still talking to truffle...i.e. NOT being disruptive and letting them do their thing
and the actual post i was responding to when i said he didn't get it...the one where he basically told me to shut up and scream into a corner because he wasn't talking to me...like i can quote it for you but you had to have JUST read it if you're pulling these quotes. do i need to show you?
also you left off what the warning was actually for but i know this is about me and not hf so i'll disregard that
On July 12 2015 00:56 Breshke wrote: Just saying a question that has like no good answer is a shit question.
What could rsoul answer here to make you townreads her there is literally nothing. You have obviously made your mind up so ignore her and convince other that it's scummy because you won't convince her
i asked him to
i want to see if he's cutting things out for reasons that make sense or just trying to make me look bad bresh lol >< cause when i saw his post initially that's what it looked like
second one i can kinda see actually lol >< our posts were four minutes apart and that's what i was writing when i returned to the thread? like i was literally writing it while he was posting so it wasn't in response to his post at all? but i can see where you think they're related
i was trying to say hf didn't really care about truffle's alignment...it wasn't a defense of truffle in any way
On July 12 2015 01:02 Breshke wrote: not t sure what you were slash are trying to get out of that then. Let's still just kill Scott after milo that sounds like a plan.
It snowed today guys at mount lofty. It never snows here like actually never. Shits fucked
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
what's the scum motivation for it?
what is scummy about me reacting to him putting me down in that way? or making a case on him later? or wanting to give truffle time to write what he already said he was writing? (that last i admit i could have approached better but i felt like hf was just trying to ping out whatever he could find and was being obstructive toward trfel who already said he was writing something up)
On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote: and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...
so like...how was i being obstructive?
(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)
like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?
Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.
It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.
xP this is forum mafia. you just answer the question again/or ignore it. most of us will keep asking. hf certainly will
there's no possible way if hf is town and trfel and i are scum that me saying he should read the thread is going to make him forget he was trying to get trfel to answer something if that's what he was doing lolol ><
and yes, i call people out for not understanding shit all the time. i did it last game. so? like if anything, that's a personality flaw. or did you not read the game you were scum in?
i dunnae, ruxx...it's hard to tell whether you're just tunneled town or the reason your responses are so generic and stubborn is that you don't actually have a good reason...i'll review you filter again pretending that all the interactions with me never happened before EoN
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?
townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.
rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times
I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles. But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.
I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:
1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him. She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)
2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target. If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)
3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)
why are you still saying i was defending him? -_-
meh, it's like talking to a wall
i was stating my opinion not forcing others to adopt it -_-, and the second one is laughable if you knew my track record with truffle...i don't need to know his alignment to know his alignment
literally the only world of the three that you could possibly believe is the third, and that assumes i'm doing something ridiculously stupid hoping it trfel ever flips people will clear me on stupidity, cause i'm not a moron -_-
why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before
like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred
On July 12 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote: oh didn't see that first comment
why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before
like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred
It's not the fact that you're have a tone read on Trfel, but the fact that you were actively deflecting pressure off him.
again, this could be said of what i did in himalayas with gb? which is why this confuses me so much that you think this alone makes me "scummy"?
i've done it with trfel before...saying hey if y'all want to lynch him you can, he's playing bad, but he's town and i won't help
<- noir
it's how i play. the play may be bad, but since my reads aren't always just about how someone is objectively playing, that's about the only way that i can express them -shrugs-
you should look up my past games with trfel, like i told you before
noir student v mafia down under 2 newbie mini mafia lxi
and see how i treat trfel in games. i know i have a good read on him -shrugs- it is what it is...was town in all those games btw xP
On July 12 2015 01:44 ruXxar wrote: Also I want to make it clear that it's not just this one incident I'm scum reading you for. There's multiple things in your play that I didn't like, which I've pointed out before.
yes i know xP emoticons xP xP xP
and mostly this lol
i remember the post because i responded to it near EoD 1
On July 12 2015 02:05 ritoky wrote: townlyfe: ritoky geript LS
I would be there's exactly 1 mafia in this group: harkon marv HF rsoul
Top town read since forever: OWS
Shitty reason for thinking is really cop: milo
Probably not mafia cuz meta: ruxxar scott
People left (3 mafia prob in here): waveofshadow clarity vivax boxerfred MZ trfel KSC breshke oats hts XEBHX
Most likely mafia from above list: trfel ksc
hey, rit...what's your meta read on scott? i went through his games earlier and couldn't find anything definitive one way or the other
his kinda poopy list posts
or stuff that looks like this and is kinda a bitch to read
are pretty much identical to the way he was posting in the past newbie student game where i was a coach (he subbed into the game so it might not be in db) in which he was town.
ah
i thought it was in comparison to more than just one game
like his shitty list posts seem to crop up in both...i was at a point where it looked like he actually played better as scum but then one of his town games was a lot more reasoned to so i ended up dropping the whole thing as nai @.@ it's hard to meta someone in games you weren't actually a part of lol at least for me...probably because my "meta" isn't actually "meta" and more some weird meta/tone hybrid thing
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?
He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS
sorry to keep distracing you
I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
that was where i waffled?
like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-
i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"