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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 15:57 GMT
#5428
okay, first interaction, you cut out the part where i left off that interaction completely and was talking to bresh while hf was still talking to truffle...i.e. NOT being disruptive and letting them do their thing

and the actual post i was responding to when i said he didn't get it...the one where he basically told me to shut up and scream into a corner because he wasn't talking to me...like i can quote it for you but you had to have JUST read it if you're pulling these quotes. do i need to show you?

also you left off what the warning was actually for but i know this is about me and not hf so i'll disregard that
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 15:58 GMT
#5429
On July 12 2015 00:56 Breshke wrote:
Just saying a question that has like no good answer is a shit question.

What could rsoul answer here to make you townreads her there is literally nothing. You have obviously made your mind up so ignore her and convince other that it's scummy because you won't convince her


i asked him to

i want to see if he's cutting things out for reasons that make sense or just trying to make me look bad bresh lol >< cause when i saw his post initially that's what it looked like
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:03 GMT
#5431
second one i can kinda see actually lol >< our posts were four minutes apart and that's what i was writing when i returned to the thread? like i was literally writing it while he was posting so it wasn't in response to his post at all? but i can see where you think they're related

i was trying to say hf didn't really care about truffle's alignment...it wasn't a defense of truffle in any way
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:04 GMT
#5432
On July 12 2015 01:02 Breshke wrote:
not t sure what you were slash are trying to get out of that then. Let's still just kill Scott after milo that sounds like a plan.

It snowed today guys at mount lofty. It never snows here like actually never. Shits fucked


lol >< i wish it would snow i love snow
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:10 GMT
#5435
and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...

so like...how was i being obstructive?

(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)

like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:12 GMT
#5437
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.


what's the scum motivation for it?

what is scummy about me reacting to him putting me down in that way? or making a case on him later? or wanting to give truffle time to write what he already said he was writing? (that last i admit i could have approached better but i felt like hf was just trying to ping out whatever he could find and was being obstructive toward trfel who already said he was writing something up)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:13 GMT
#5438
...

i think i've gotten all i needed to out of this. sorry for wasting everyone's time ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#5442
On July 12 2015 01:16 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:
and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...

so like...how was i being obstructive?

(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)

like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?


Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.

It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.


xP this is forum mafia. you just answer the question again/or ignore it. most of us will keep asking. hf certainly will

there's no possible way if hf is town and trfel and i are scum that me saying he should read the thread is going to make him forget he was trying to get trfel to answer something if that's what he was doing lolol ><

and yes, i call people out for not understanding shit all the time. i did it last game. so? like if anything, that's a personality flaw. or did you not read the game you were scum in?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:27 GMT
#5444
anyway yeah, gonna grab some food

i dunnae, ruxx...it's hard to tell whether you're just tunneled town or the reason your responses are so generic and stubborn is that you don't actually have a good reason...i'll review you filter again pretending that all the interactions with me never happened before EoN
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:30 GMT
#5446
On July 12 2015 01:26 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.

just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?

townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.

rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times


I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles.
But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.

I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:

1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him.
She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)

2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target.
If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)

3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)


why are you still saying i was defending him? -_-

meh, it's like talking to a wall

i was stating my opinion not forcing others to adopt it -_-, and the second one is laughable if you knew my track record with truffle...i don't need to know his alignment to know his alignment

literally the only world of the three that you could possibly believe is the third, and that assumes i'm doing something ridiculously stupid hoping it trfel ever flips people will clear me on stupidity, cause i'm not a moron -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:31 GMT
#5448
anyway yeah still gonna do what i said above

ciao
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:32 GMT
#5449
oh didn't see that first comment

why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before

like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:35 GMT
#5450
i'll respond when i get back if it's something that needs responding to...i think it's just better for me to evaluate the rest of your play anyway

lol thanks ref!marv
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:45 GMT
#5455
On July 12 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote:
oh didn't see that first comment

why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before

like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred


It's not the fact that you're have a tone read on Trfel, but the fact that you were actively deflecting pressure off him.


again, this could be said of what i did in himalayas with gb? which is why this confuses me so much that you think this alone makes me "scummy"?

i've done it with trfel before...saying hey if y'all want to lynch him you can, he's playing bad, but he's town and i won't help

<- noir

it's how i play. the play may be bad, but since my reads aren't always just about how someone is objectively playing, that's about the only way that i can express them -shrugs-

you should look up my past games with trfel, like i told you before

noir
student v
mafia down under 2
newbie mini mafia lxi

and see how i treat trfel in games. i know i have a good read on him -shrugs- it is what it is...was town in all those games btw xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:46 GMT
#5457
On July 12 2015 01:44 ruXxar wrote:
Also I want to make it clear that it's not just this one incident I'm scum reading you for.
There's multiple things in your play that I didn't like, which I've pointed out before.


yes i know xP emoticons xP xP xP

and mostly this lol

i remember the post because i responded to it near EoD 1
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:49 GMT
#5460
heh

yeah i thought that would be more productive than it was -shrugs-

maybe y'all got more out of it than i did

i'll post something closer to EoN

meanwhile...



\o/ mood music!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 17:16 GMT
#5471
lol there's one thought that came to mind

and if that's correct, jat...

he won't out it mad playz \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 17:24 GMT
#5477
On July 12 2015 02:05 ritoky wrote:
townlyfe:
ritoky
geript
LS

I would be there's exactly 1 mafia in this group:
harkon
marv
HF
rsoul

Top town read since forever:
OWS

Shitty reason for thinking is really cop:
milo

Probably not mafia cuz meta:
ruxxar
scott

People left (3 mafia prob in here):
waveofshadow
clarity
vivax
boxerfred
MZ
trfel
KSC
breshke
oats
hts
XEBHX

Most likely mafia from above list:
trfel
ksc


hey, rit...what's your meta read on scott? i went through his games earlier and couldn't find anything definitive one way or the other
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 17:31 GMT
#5479
On July 12 2015 02:27 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:05 ritoky wrote:
townlyfe:
ritoky
geript
LS

I would be there's exactly 1 mafia in this group:
harkon
marv
HF
rsoul

Top town read since forever:
OWS

Shitty reason for thinking is really cop:
milo

Probably not mafia cuz meta:
ruxxar
scott

People left (3 mafia prob in here):
waveofshadow
clarity
vivax
boxerfred
MZ
trfel
KSC
breshke
oats
hts
XEBHX

Most likely mafia from above list:
trfel
ksc


hey, rit...what's your meta read on scott? i went through his games earlier and couldn't find anything definitive one way or the other


his kinda poopy list posts

or stuff that looks
like this and
is kinda a bitch to read

are pretty much identical to the way he was posting in the past newbie student game where i was a coach (he subbed into the game so it might not be in db) in which he was town.


ah

i thought it was in comparison to more than just one game

like his shitty list posts seem to crop up in both...i was at a point where it looked like he actually played better as scum but then one of his town games was a lot more reasoned to so i ended up dropping the whole thing as nai @.@ it's hard to meta someone in games you weren't actually a part of lol at least for me...probably because my "meta" isn't actually "meta" and more some weird meta/tone hybrid thing
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 17:38 GMT
#5483
On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote:
But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.

Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?


He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.

If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.



Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you

I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.

idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.



that was where i waffled?

like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-

i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"

hold on let me review something...
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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