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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
July 17 2015 14:25 GMT
#7651
On July 17 2015 23:19 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
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On July 17 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia.


how can you say these things with a straight face in the same sentence?

breshke LITERALLY just parked his vote on ruxxar all day last cycle and did nothing and that is the basis of your scumread

impossible to know who is town or mafia in this game because there are huge gaping logical errors and double standards on every page I read


But are you looking into the why? Offhand I believe he had a the on HF and that would fall in line with not wanting to autolynch HF or vote him and find another lynch instead. He's has been scumreadinv ruXxar for awhile. And I know he is not a player that has a lot of thread pull.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 17 2015 14:25 GMT
#7652
ebwop - had a TR on HF

damn mobile
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 18 2015 03:02 GMT
#7805
I'm settled in NYC. Caught up and really tired. I'm reading Rasputin's filter and the cases but I'm at a stopping point.

GGs Vivax and LS.

I'm still inclined to vote ruXxar but I should have an hour or so I can put towards this game tomorrow so I can re-evaluate as needed.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:15 GMT
#7900
##unvote

Tomorrow morning (us time) I will get my rear to a cafe and re-evaluate. I have been spending most of my time with family so to spend hard time on this game has been impossible.

I've skimmed and I am still wavering on Ras, partially on how in her scum games she's "pretended" to be invested (reference Carnaval/nsm7) and between the cases and what I see here I feel this might be town on town. If she's scum she's putting a shittonne more time than normal. I am with Obi that we might have a lurker scum team so if I honestly read through and read all cases and feel we are all tearing each other apart we might want to vote out a lurker.

I realise there's competing cases on Clarity and I fear he might be playing extremely well as scum. I have also taken note of how he was scum reading Breshke, I felt the progression in Breshke filter was logical and his filter lacked the aggression where he pounces on people when he's scum since he has that perfect information. Then again its also not out of the realm of possibilities since Clarity hasn't played in ages I don't remember seeing him around since I started Nov 2014 so that point alone might be unfamiliarity.

If Oats is scum we are in serious trouble. He lurked like shit in both games where I have run into him as scum. If he's scum he's broken meta.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:18 GMT
#7902
Yes I realise Breshke is JK but I missed that question you posted to me Clarity. But that's in my head.

VA I have had the reservation with trouble on getting a read on him all game.

Ugh.

OWS could be scum but it's highly unlikely.

We might have lurker scum but I refuse to vote a lurker before I dive into all the actives...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:19 GMT
#7903
I have played with Ras before she always says its not her place to talk about others RL issues.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:28 GMT
#7907
The read I don't understand is BF. His town game is very poor in general because he has has zero town coaching in newbie game. His only newbie he was scum. Ras seems to have gotten her read on him from nsm10 so I need to read that filter again. I thought he was town here but apparently the too scum to be scum applied in the game he was actually scum.

This game the number of scum thing he didn't know but I don't recall him acting THAT dumb in nsm10.

His read on me is a fear read which is NAI, but complete understandable from a town perspective.

You are POEing Trfel regardless of DMA?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:30 GMT
#7908
On July 19 2015 10:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 19 2015 10:19 Half the Sky wrote:
I have played with Ras before she always says its not her place to talk about others RL issues.


Yeah this is my assumption. I think she would not use it as scum unless trfel was also scum and they agreed on it, hence my conclusion. What do you think?


I honestly think she could say that as either alignment (the its not my place, etc thing) that's just who she is independently of the game.

Unless I misunderstood.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:35 GMT
#7911
Ras can you sum up your main argument against BF? I don't have a whole lot of time left here but in his town games where he was always behind you people really think he's faking his emotions? Or so called dumbtells?

Let me power through nsm10....stand by.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:42 GMT
#7915
Oh shit I see what you are saying now. You're saying you think DMA applies to her?

She did that with LS as town in Himalayas that's for sure.

I guess I'd have to go back and see if there is a sense of discomfort in her dialogue about Trfel. I know there is OGI I believe that but to fake townread that's a very difficult question.

I want to say she probably wouldn't? but it's best to check around the filter where she talks about RL stuff with him. If I get the same tone read I did when she discussed LS in Himalayas...she's prob town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:43 GMT
#7916
Andddddd I have to bail. It's going to be tomorrow morning in the cafe I think then I'll try to pop in on mobile before eod.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:53 GMT
#7918
Pain to do this on mobile....who were all of Trfels scumread...HF, ruXxar who else? he voted Ras and then unvoted?

if ruXxar and Ras are both town that might lead credence to a scum Trfel but I need to read that filter again tomorrow morning.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 01:54 GMT
#7919
Until tomorrow....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 14:18 GMT
#7993
Just settled at the Starbucks. I have about 90 minutes here before I have to meet the family for brunch.

Not digging the BF lynch right now, power reading his nsm10 filter though....Ras I don't get the change in position on BF or did you just change your mind?

....or should I just read....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 14:33 GMT
#8001
On July 19 2015 23:20 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 19 2015 23:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Just settled at the Starbucks. I have about 90 minutes here before I have to meet the family for brunch.

Not digging the BF lynch right now, power reading his nsm10 filter though....Ras I don't get the change in position on BF or did you just change your mind?

....or should I just read....


change in position?


you were willing to lynch BF last night and now you say he's a no lynch all game?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 14:39 GMT
#8003
Skimmed BFs filter nsm10, NOTHING like this game I see the shit tier town game here, not lynching him today.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 14:39 GMT
#8005
On July 19 2015 23:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 19 2015 23:20 rsoultin wrote:
On July 19 2015 23:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Just settled at the Starbucks. I have about 90 minutes here before I have to meet the family for brunch.

Not digging the BF lynch right now, power reading his nsm10 filter though....Ras I don't get the change in position on BF or did you just change your mind?

....or should I just read....


change in position?


you were willing to lynch BF last night and now you say he's a no lynch all game?


o.0

lol >< you must have misunderstood. truffle is a no lynch all game for me



kk then my mistake
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 14:45 GMT
#8011
I'll be honest I really think there is one scum between Clarity/ras. There has to be another active Mafia. If scum team are WoS, etc..... >_<

I have no idea why Oats thinks Breshke or myself are scum.

I am wary right now of the people wanting to lynch Boxerfred going the easy lynch route.

Reading the competing cases....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 14:53 GMT
#8016
Can someone exain to me why we should NOT lynch EBH?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 19 2015 14:54 GMT
#8017
ebwop - explain
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