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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 12:47 GMT
#7229
Anyone here?

So we're not lynching ruXxar or EBH?

I'll read the cases on OWS. Aside from Trfels cases are there any other competing cases on Holyflare?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 13:12 GMT
#7232
I'm assuming this is all within the last 10 pages, otherwise your filter is going to be quite painful to work through...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 13:12 GMT
#7233
And I'm on mobile ATM....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 15:58 GMT
#7353
I honestly want to lynch ruXxar. I'm not convinced on the case on OWS and I really don't think Ras is scum.

The other issue is that I looked at Ras' list on HF and it makes me waver towards him being scum. like all his pushes were opportunistic and its not hard to look towny when others are playing badly. I really didn't like the drops early game and martyring whilst unusual as HF he can do it as either alignment.

Putting my vote on ruXxar for now but once I get to a computer I can review a few more things in detail.

I really think Breshke is town, Oats town, I'm down to WoS and EBH with the possibility I'm wrong elsewhere.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 16:00 GMT
#7355
On July 17 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
No one is sheeping LS


So why are you still voting for HF?!
You even said that you liked his his contributions and you had a town read on him up until now.
Why flip flop when you've been so certain all along?

All I see is you saying you want to vote HF out of spite.


Do you see how this might not necessarily be alignment indicative? I can see it possible if he's scum but it's Holyflare...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 16:07 GMT
#7362
On July 17 2015 01:04 Breshke wrote:
Could wos really be scum HTS? Like i get the modkill could make him not post like at all but even before that it was like meh. Why did noone push wos for mafiarollingitis wasnt he mafia with trfel in that game? Or is it because meta says he can play like this?


Meta. If I didn't know any better I would be scumreading him but if HF rolls scum this might be an issue considering trfel was pushed heavily.

Both KSC and Damdred's pushed WOS hard for being useless though or maybe KSC for something else on top of that but based on that and meta I'm making the assumption he's town.

At this point though, his extended absence has been NAI as Oats pointed out.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 16:14 GMT
#7371
Do we still have two lynches left if we no lynch?

11:3 NL
9:3 NK
8:3 ML
6:3 NK
5:3 ML

....we don't...er unless I got something wrong there....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 16:16 GMT
#7375
Yeah I don't think we gain anything.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 16:18 GMT
#7382
No honestly I agree with Clarity and Oats here we can't no lynch. Which means I'll have to vote Holyflare if nothing happens.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 17:12 GMT
#7423
I swapped my vote to HF. As for the gross misinterpretation I'm referring to his pushes on Ras, trfel and myself early in the game. I debunked the meta read at least twice and even Harkon mentioned a major discrepancy with you (specifically clashing with town leaders) for me being town earlier on reading the same game.

I totally want ruXxar to die as well but of course that's not going to happen. Well not today anyways.

I should have shot you n2 and just gone with my gut :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 17:22 GMT
#7430
On July 17 2015 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 02:12 Half the Sky wrote:
I swapped my vote to HF. As for the gross misinterpretation I'm referring to his pushes on Ras, trfel and myself early in the game. I debunked the meta read at least twice and even Harkon mentioned a major discrepancy with you (specifically clashing with town leaders) for me being town earlier on reading the same game.

I totally want ruXxar to die as well but of course that's not going to happen. Well not today anyways.

I should have shot you n2 and just gone with my gut :/


QUOTE IT LOL. Where is the misrepresentation. WHERE WHERE. How can you say it's a misrep when rsoultin herself the person being the antagonistic ass hole AGREED with the trfel case? HOW?

Where did I misrep you in the slightest? Where does that exist? How do you know that is the case if you ignored all of my posts and only ever answered one right at deadline? Is that my fault you played like shit and ignored a town player and perpetuated my read when you know that i get tunneled on people? You keep mentioning aperture and forgetting all about it.

Pathetic.


I mentioned Aperture in defence of OWS, not the other way around.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 22:12 GMT
#7603
On July 17 2015 07:06 boxerfred wrote:
HtS. Rsoultin. Clarity. That's it.

Maybe even OWS somehow I'm not sure about Rsoulting but hey, sheeping HF it is.


I honestly wish I would have just shot HF n2 and taken the policy lynch d3. :/

I think two of the scummers are on the HF wagon and one tried to disassociate from it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 22:21 GMT
#7612
I'll just say this, I wanted to lynch ruXxar and EBH but it was clear we weren't getting the votes either way. And I really haven't been fully sure on HF. I considered what HF quoted - the fact that he could be town and acting like this like he did in Aperture - in my decision to not shoot into him and I didn't get a chance to fully look into that. So I don't blame him for posting that (I originally thought he was disupting my point on OWS - I misunderstood) though.

No voting and bringing HF into lylo we would have lost, this would have been on repeat.

As for me, I could be so far off track this game and it wouldn't surprise me because after the autopilot phase of this game nothing has made any sense.

It would not surprise me if ruXxar was the one that disassociated...

WoS just jumping in and voting Holyflare though....I know I've said I think he's town, but clearly being out of touch with the thread and then not realising WHY HF was still alive d4...that sorta jumped out at me but does that make him scum....

Also what if both HF and Ras are town given how long they've been going on about each other?

Bah I'm rambling, but I need to take a hard look at the Clarity read, will try either late tonight or before I fly to NYC but otherwise flying to the US will remove me for most of the night phase. :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 22:23 GMT
#7615
On July 17 2015 07:18 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 07:12 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 17 2015 07:06 boxerfred wrote:
HtS. Rsoultin. Clarity. That's it.

Maybe even OWS somehow I'm not sure about Rsoulting but hey, sheeping HF it is.


I honestly wish I would have just shot HF n2 and taken the policy lynch d3. :/

I think two of the scummers are on the HF wagon and one tried to disassociate from it.

I have no idea. But I feel like all scum players are on HF. The wagon basically never stopped, the votes on others feel more like townie votes.


Doubt it, it's not that simple. There were too many willing to lynch him and the HF wagon has had more than the required minimum at points and I'm willing to bet one scummer was smart enough to disassociate. I think two are on the main wagon and one on a smaller.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 22:23 GMT
#7617
[QUOTE]On July 17 2015 07:21 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 17 2015 07:19 boxerfred wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 17 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 17 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 17 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote:
the only people with an excuse to be super sure of hf's alignment are like people who don't know what his scumgame looks like? essentially. ruxx doesn't fall in that category[/QUOTE]

1000%
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 22:24 GMT
#7618
damn quotes

On July 17 2015 07:21 rsoultin wrote:
the only people with an excuse to be super sure of hf's alignment are like people who don't know what his scumgame looks like? essentially. ruxx doesn't fall in that category


1000%
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 22:31 GMT
#7622
On July 17 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly there was like 4-5 votes outside of the HF wagon I think at least 1 is scum in those and at least 2 on the main wagon I will try to put up some work tonight on vote analyses up to this night phase.


Agreed.

Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky
ObiWanShinobi(2): Holyflare, XEliteBlueHunter69X
rsoultin(2): ruXxar, boxerfred
ruXxar(1) Breshke

On the wagon I'd say scum is somewhere in Clarity, WoS, Ras, OWS.
Off the wagon, I'd say either EBH or ruXxar, most likely ruXxar.
Probably going to be my starting point.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 17 2015 14:00 GMT
#7646
VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 17 2015 14:05 GMT
#7648
I still want to lynch ruXxar though. That's not changed.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 17 2015 14:08 GMT
#7649
On July 17 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia.


Never mind. I retract the part about VA. Since he said he didn't care about what happened to him. Missed that.

If he's scum its not for that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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