On July 12 2015 23:49 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: then lynch me so I dont have to read any more of this dribble, cya.
You seem like a smart person who can put together coherent thoughts. If you just ignore HF/Rsoul for a while, what are your thoughts on the rest of the game?
Your latest scumlist had these people on it:
On July 11 2015 00:21 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: sure I can give a basic list of updated scumreads.
Damdred milo meapak trfel Kelsier obi
in order of sureness. Breshke would be right under that at my most scummy null but I dropped off him a bit.
On July 13 2015 01:17 milo109 wrote: HF is trying to get plausible deniability for when I flip town. Do not listen to anyone who defends me today later on in the game.
This is a really strange post. Why does mafia say this?
On July 13 2015 05:17 milo109 wrote: I'm not going to. I will be lynched anyway, I should be lynched anyway. Let's focus on who town should think about tomorrow.
With this attitude you will be for sure. I hate the martyr charade.
On July 13 2015 05:17 milo109 wrote: I'm not going to. I will be lynched anyway, I should be lynched anyway. Let's focus on who town should think about tomorrow.
With this attitude you will be for sure. I hate the martyr charade.
What if it isn't a charade O.o what if this is reality?
Then i want you to fight for your life, and not give up. In my newbie game there were several townies that had big vote trains going against them that it looked grim for. Some of them managed to live, some didn't. Guess who lived? The townies that actually put in an effort to defend themselves. If you are town you are going directly against your win condition by giving up.
I do not want to mislynch town if i can help it. If you are on our side, then put in some effort and answer the questions. And even if you get lynched still, you at least leave a legacy behind. You haven't lost the game just because you died. If you are town then you win with us whether you live or die.
I don't think boxerfred is the right direction to go in. I like what he's done so far. He's pretty towny to me. I would give you the finer points but I'm on my phone so meh.
I really like the idea that someone brought up that a lot of mafia could be hiding among the lurkers when most of the lynches are "auto". These are the people that I feel have been invisible enough to be in that group.
Trfel Wave Scott Kelsier Breshke Obi EBH
What's common for all of them is that they never really got into any heavy confrontations that I can remember where they had to defend or push their view. It's easy for mafia to sit back and soft push people, throwing out names and accusations etc without really trying to push their view onto other people or fight back when they get confronted with their views. Coupled with low activity and little interest in playing as mafia I feel like there should definitely be at least 1 mafia here if not 2 or more.
Of the people on that list I like EBH and Obi the most, mostly due to the interaction I've had with them. That's not a very strong point though. The rest are meh tier.
On July 13 2015 21:51 Half the Sky wrote: ruXxar, Trfel wa getting pretty hard pushed by people at points and he then pushed back against Holyflare, although at somewhat random times. What do you make of that?
Wave/Scott/EBH have been thrown around for a while, right...
Most veterans find Breshke easy enough to read tbh, the general sentiment amongst most that knew him was town. You might want to try and look at his filter. Or did you read it and were you not impressed?
Trfel was getting pushed, but that's why I'm so frustrated over rsoultin because I wanted to see the outcome of the HF push on him, yet it just fizzled out. I wouldn't say that he's really pushed on HF. He made a case on him and never defended it from anything or answered questions related to it. There's basically no interaction going on with him. Making static posts and not interacting is pretty scummy in my eyes.
For breshke, first of all he's been pretty much invisible to me. Second off, I like to form my own reads on people. I find the whole going into peoples other games and reading what they do and look at meta to be a tedious and boring way to play this game. I know there's value in it, but I don't like to do it myself unless I have a very strong point to make. So when I make reads on people it's either based on my own experience playing with them in previous games, or mostly just looking at how they play in the current game.
After a quick skim of his filter, I get a more towny vibe off him. Seems inquisitive and curious. I like that. However, I don't feel like he's really trying to push his own reads. A bit too many questions and not enough work on his own for my liking. I liked his bout with EBH, so that's a slight plus.
On July 13 2015 22:21 Clarity_nl wrote: I made some adjustments
<3
I need learn to draw like this. Where do I sign up for lessons?
you can't teach natural flair
I get so damn enyvous every time I see people drawing amazing stuff with just a pencil. I'm like I WANT THAT, then I pick up a book and start drawing a turd. After 10 minutes I'm like fuck that, too much effort.
I was recently at a job interview for my current job where they asked me to draw 4 things in my life that was important to me. I was stressed out since my drawing is terrible. They came in and I just saw them with a big grin on their faces miring my stick man drawings. I suppressed the embarrassment like a boss though and got the job.
On July 13 2015 22:21 Clarity_nl wrote: I made some adjustments
<3
I need learn to draw like this. Where do I sign up for lessons?
you can't teach natural flair
I get so damn enyvous every time I see people drawing amazing stuff with just a pencil. I'm like I WANT THAT, then I pick up a book and start drawing a turd. After 10 minutes I'm like fuck that, too much effort.
I was recently at a job interview for my current job where they asked me to draw 4 things in my life that was important to me. I was stressed out since my drawing is terrible. They came in and I just saw them with a big grin on their faces miring my stick man drawings. I suppressed the embarrassment like a boss though and got the job.
hahaha. that story was surprisingly good. Art was my solid "D" subject while I had to take it at school.
"Andrew, it looks like you drew that outside the classroom just now!" "uh......"
Yeah, I was never any good at arts and crafts. I liked the practical aspect of it, when we were doing woodwork n stuff that was pretty fun.
The artistic side of it was not my thing at all. Doesn't help that drawing was considered the most girly thing you could do either, and you basically shot your own coolness factor out the window if you tried to draw anything. I remember a lot of my classmastes refusing to draw anything since they were shit at it. Great logic right? I'm shit at drawing so I'm not gonna learn drawing by drawing LOL.
On July 13 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote: i was terrible at woodwork/making things as well. Art and that were my 2 shit subjects.
i had no concern about being "cool", thankfully. My tongue was acidic enough and i was strong enough that i didn't get bullied, and i could just be friends with who i wanted.
I was scum with HF last game, and I have a townlean on him this game.
In general I find HF hard to read, he doesn't conform to the stereotypic mafia player. There are however small nuances that I think makes him town this game, compared to last game.
1) He's actually pushing logical targets. I find myself agreeing with a lot of his reasoning, as compared to just trying to tunnel people to death with weak arguments and a play on emotions. Last game he tried to lynch people by ridiculing them and their arguments and being over the top and shouting at them. Blowing things out of proportions and trying to make them look stupid. I'm seeing a relatively more "calm" and reasoning HF this game. More serious and down to business.
2) He's more wishy washy. This doesn't mean that he IS wishy washy in a general sense, but in a relative sense compared to last game. Especially the night when were lynched BM he seemed a bit all over the place, uncertain where to go. You see that he sometimes have a hard time picking a target to lynch, I can relate to that very well. That isn't the scum HF I played with last game. He mainly picked one target and stuck with it, and didn't waver much.
3) He's re-evaluating his stance. You can see multiple times throughout the game that he's re-evaluating his stance on people. This is apparent in how he's re-evaluating his stance on both trfel, hts, milo and others continuously, jumping from towny to scummy based on their actions/reactions.
That's my opinion on HF so far this game, I don't agree that shooting him is a good idea. If anything, shoot Rsoul.