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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:08 GMT
#5167
Hf is breshke town?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:34 GMT
#5185
On July 11 2015 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 11:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.

Did you ever read Scotts previous games? He seems pretty much the same, lurky and not that useful.



Doesn't make him town, though.

Doesn't make him scum either. And that seems to be the only reason you are scumreading him.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:38 GMT
#5187
On July 11 2015 12:10 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 11:52 milo109 wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:51 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:49 milo109 wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
i stand corrected lol ><

you needed over 10 minutes to write that?


When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions.


yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP

talk to me about the fake redcheck


What do you want to know?

I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive.
Keep in mind that this was before geript outed.
I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it.
Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer.
I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it.


If in some very odd, very parallel universe, you did not automatically assume I was mafia, what would you read from the check?


I'm not sure what you mean specifically.
Can you clarify?


Your response to the check was under the assumption that I was mafia. Under the assumption that I was null, what would your response be?


From a real cop perspective that actually got role-blocked, then you know you're pretty much not going to get any checks off until you die.
I think the play I would make is to just fake a red on the most scummy player on my list and stick with it.
You know you are 100% town, and everyone else is below 100%, so you have to trust in your own reads.

In that case I think you made the right play with faking the red-check, but screwed up when you rescinded.

This is not a good idea. Because if you are wrong, and I think it's pretty likely, then you just gave mafia a free mislynch.
I know I did it but that's cause if I didn't we would literally lose.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:45 GMT
#5190
Mz / vivax. Ebh. Breshke. Ows.

I can't shake the feeling that ebh knows what he is doing is pretty scummy.

I don't understand how your top scumread in a game with like 20+ people is an afk dude who is not even the only afk dude.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:50 GMT
#5193
Like come on, would you shoot Scott based on his posts right now and be reasonably confident he's mafia? I don't think so.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:52 GMT
#5195
On July 11 2015 12:48 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mz / vivax. Ebh. Breshke. Ows.

I can't shake the feeling that ebh knows what he is doing is pretty scummy.

I don't understand how your top scumread in a game with like 20+ people is an afk dude who is not even the only afk dude.


don't agree with vivax or breshke :/ ows i need to read closer but i've liked him when he was in thread?

So you think vivax has been posting stuff that makes sense and is reasonable? Cause I don't.

Why is breshke town?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:53 GMT
#5196
Admittedly this might be slightly wifom but I doubt damdred pushes solely townies so if I assume one of his scumreads is actually scum, I'm thinking it's vivax.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:55 GMT
#5197
I took a quick look at scotts filter and I still don't see any reasons to scumread him.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:56 GMT
#5201
On July 06 2015 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 12:07 milo109 wrote:
On July 06 2015 12:03 ruXxar wrote:
Oatsy <3

I like where you're going so far.
You're showing determination in your play.
That's what I wanna see from you.

Is there a difference between your mafia scum reads, or is everyone you call mafia equally mafia?

I hate townreads like this. If he was mafia, you're telling him by continuing to be determined, you will read him town. Silly for town to do.

but what if rux is mafia?

scumslip?!??

Actually this is totally tmi. Lynch milo tmr.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 03:58 GMT
#5202
Scott isn't boring at all.

The rest is a product of not posting.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:03 GMT
#5207
On July 11 2015 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 11 2015 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Scott isn't boring at all.

The rest is a product of not posting.


He is though.

Are you gonna put in any effort at all?

Rsoul, can you explain exactly what it is that makes breshke town this game just like geript did for damdred.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:09 GMT
#5212
On July 11 2015 13:04 Holyflare wrote:
Milo is a bad shot. Mz is a good shot.

yep
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:12 GMT
#5215
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey


dis guy too.....


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.

My vote is serious now.


Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm

On July 06 2015 09:25 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 09:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey


dis guy too.....


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?

On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.

My vote is serious now.


Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm


what?


What are you unsure of? I didn't care for his vote, although he does explain it decently here -

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 09:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey


dis guy too.....


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?

On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.

My vote is serious now.


Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm


This seems like a major overreaction tbh.
Why are you so pissy about my vote?

Honestly marv doesn't really look like anything, but Hf calling him out when nothing has happened seems a bit out of the ordinary. I'd imagine town!Hf wouldn't even care about Marv at all considering what an easily-resolved player he is.


And I'm not pissy - I just called it a shit vote because, well, it is.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


[image loading]

On July 10 2015 06:34 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:13 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:
For the love of God, please just do this milo. If you're town this argument is just shitting up the thread right now:

On July 10 2015 05:50 ritoky wrote:
Hey milo, can you make an accusation on one of your other scum reads instead?


scott, BF, clarity, and MZ were all on your list. pick one and go.



Sorry. Lots to address. Who is BF? Am I blanking? Anyway. The case on Scott..

I only just started and I found this gem,
On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:

I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...

I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity  townie after the morning
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar  slight town
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim
8) ritoky  slight town
9) geript  slight town
10) boxerfred  null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh 
12) Trfel  Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike  Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke  Ehh
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon  Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X 

I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.


He slight town reads everybody but Holyflare. Odd. The only person he calls scum is rsoultin, OWS and I. Millions of town leans can be indicative of mafia.

On July 08 2015 06:27 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.

Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often.


Why were you AFK for so long?


He lobs a softball to MZ, and then says this later,

On July 08 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:
I want to go back to Ziphh


Why? He offered Ziphh another day to play. Why did he want to switch back?

Also... Why does no one call Scott on TMI? -_- I'm not, because I think it's a dumb argument. But you notice that they only used the TMI on me.

And then his latest post is an attempted catch on me that is dumb.



I love how you use my very first list in the thread instead of the latest one to prove your point here instead of my latest. Do you see what has changed? I probably won't update it much anyway from now on - I have a decent grasp of what's going on - it's more of a reminder of who's still here and not to forget anybody.

+ Show Spoiler +

1) Marvellosity  banished townie
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  Lynched Day 1 Wanderer
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OWS
9) geript  tracker
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  inactive/scummy
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  claimed 2 shot GS with no pressure again
14) Palmar  Two shot auror dead n1 -Called boxerfred town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading - claimed two shot cop
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Is having a few better thoughts lately - but still unsure about him
20) Damdred  Tracked to ritoky - probably mafia RB
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  JAT - Veteran no CC Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town - hard defends Rsoul
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  mixed bag - Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town
Damdred / Milo / MZ / then worry about the other two afterwards.


I didn't give MZ a day - I asked if he would be useful the next day if we did - the thread gave him another day. I really didn't want to switch to BM but I did not want a no lynch either. A hindsight mistake now. I wasn't even sure if we would get enough votes for BM and I did want to go back to MZ. Does that make sense?
[image loading]



I think these are all pretty interesting.

What "work" are you putting in OWS?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:12 GMT
#5216
On July 11 2015 13:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
False Lead (Mafia Roleblocker): False leads happen all the time. Most of the time, they’re not even anyone’s fault. They sure do eat up valuable peoples’ time, though. You are a roleblocker. Each night, you may target a player and roleblock them. You can also deliver KP while doing this. Your RB resolves before any town abilities do.


This is a bit wifom but since damdred was only tracked to ritoky, barring any jk or anything that has a save on ritoky it probably means someone not talked about as being scummy carried the kp. Not sure what that means yet but i just saw it in the op.

Tracker cant track someone to 2 locations, that would be super op.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:13 GMT
#5219
Ive always thought you cant track kp.
Like the only thing you can do to stop it is roleblock.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:14 GMT
#5220
On July 11 2015 13:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 13:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 11 2015 13:09 Holyflare wrote:
False Lead (Mafia Roleblocker): False leads happen all the time. Most of the time, they’re not even anyone’s fault. They sure do eat up valuable peoples’ time, though. You are a roleblocker. Each night, you may target a player and roleblock them. You can also deliver KP while doing this. Your RB resolves before any town abilities do.


This is a bit wifom but since damdred was only tracked to ritoky, barring any jk or anything that has a save on ritoky it probably means someone not talked about as being scummy carried the kp. Not sure what that means yet but i just saw it in the op.

Tracker cant track someone to 2 locations, that would be super op.


Of course they can.

Show me an example.

Its not that I disagree that a townie looking person is mafia, cause in almost every single game ive played, at least one scum gets townread pretty hard.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:15 GMT
#5221
On July 11 2015 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Gee. I don't know. Read my filter?

I want to know what work you think you are doing. Not what work I think you are doing
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:19 GMT
#5228
On July 11 2015 13:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Those posts you brought up aren't even interesting. He put a bunch of overemphasis on voting BM to avoid a nolynch and acted like a dick for no reason whatsoever.

acting like a dick pretty much means hes town lol.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:20 GMT
#5230
Where is the overemphasis? I see a bunch of "i think BM is town".
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 11 2015 04:21 GMT
#5231
On July 11 2015 13:16 Vivax wrote:
If MZ is mafia game should get considerably easier based on D1 wagon analysis

explain.
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