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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:09 GMT
#2429
yeh i'm not lynching ritoky today
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:10 GMT
#2433
he might be playing like mafia but then there's 4 other mafia in this game so i'd prefer we focus on those other people for a change and since HtS is blatently ignoring everything I write I don't mind lynching her at all. I don't mind milo lynch but I want people to talk about him with me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:11 GMT
#2434
On July 08 2015 03:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:07 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 08 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:59 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


Are you still getting the same scum vibes from Damdred?


Dunno have to read him in his entirety.

For now I'd like to ask why we're voting the claimed cop.


The behaviour imo doesn't back his claim up, the point was also made that 1-shot anything is an easy claim to make.

If you look at his reads throughout all of day 1, he presents two lists of reads (ls/milo/x) and then of those scumreading him (damdred, ksc,myself and a 4th) and just assumes soemone on there is scum profiting off a bad read which in of itself ISN'T a bad thing however, you'd be expecting some follow through on those initial reads. He was asked if he had any scumreads and he apparently didn't have any and he scumread and dropped OWS - at this point it's not clear where his scumreads are in the game. He did post he'd be on low activity and I can appreciate that with RL but he doesn't need a 20 page filter to make a shortlist of top scumreads.


The arguments on Trfel are similar given he also has two reads he didn't really follow through with, AND he didn't claim a role that's gonna get confirmed or not by his survival over the nights. Killing ritoky feels like an unnecessary risk. It's irrational imo.


much astute
many town vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:19 GMT
#2439
On July 08 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
he might be playing like mafia but then there's 4 other mafia in this game so i'd prefer we focus on those other people for a change and since HtS is blatently ignoring everything I write I don't mind lynching her at all. I don't mind milo lynch but I want people to talk about him with me.


I'll be blunt here, I think you could be mafia and if you are, you have done a great job in the past derailing people with emotion and/or taking things out of context. I am still not at all impressed how/why you dropped the Trfel read or why you consider myself (or milo from your end) scummier than he.



You REALLY can't understand why I think you're scummy??? After i've posted about 20 paragraphs about it and made a case? REALLY?

Why do I care if you're impressed. If you town read Trfel and now I think his last post was honest and start town reading him why is your initial read of suspicion and how does that make sense for a mafia holyflare to even do. It doesn't, you're grasping at straws. You have no responses for any of the questions I raise. You misquote things, you take things out of context and then you try and spin it in a scummy way (milo post, ritoky actions) and then when I do it ONCE in this game (which isn't even true) you completely flip your read around. Your thoughts do not align with your actions. Your posts have no direction. Your scum read on milo did not progress in the slightest because you were "waiting for him to answer questions" despite him posting several times after that and I was asking him questions which you still didn't acknowledge.

You keep posting how I am pushing milo but think you are also mafia which very likely makes me mafia but I am pushing milo and you think i'm mafia. That is the biggest double standard in this game. SO SO SO mafia double standardy in fact that i'm voting you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:25 GMT
#2443
HtS: "HF, how can you think milo and myself are mafia together, that's scummy!"
HF: "It doesn't matter to me, I read people as scum independently!"
HtS: "I think HF is scummy and also milo!"


?????????????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:26 GMT
#2446
On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.

Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick.

1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something.
2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you.
3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me.
4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town.

Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing.


Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point.

What's your read on the dude?

I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him.


i dunno his last post felt genuine frustration enough for me to take him out of my poe list for today (doesn't mean i think he's town)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:29 GMT
#2451
On July 08 2015 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
HtS: "HF, how can you think milo and myself are mafia together, that's scummy!"
HF: "It doesn't matter to me, I read people as scum independently!"
HtS: "I think HF is scummy and also milo!"


?????????????????


comments plzzzzzzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:30 GMT
#2452
everyone seems to be dodging hts like a leper
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:53 GMT
#2481
On July 08 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote:
good news: i'm kinda here

bad news: i'm here because i abandoned my workout because i was feeling nauseous so i'm not up to much

from this page i gather we're congregating on ritoky/hts. was milo abandoned for some reason? i really don't have the energy to read anything.


not a problem voting for milo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:56 GMT
#2485
On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote:
I want to lynch ten people.

Damdred
Scott
Ritoky
HF
HtS

Clarity
Kelsier
LS
Rsoul
Vaxx(whatever his name is)

Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little.


On July 07 2015 11:42 milo109 wrote:
How the hell do you know what is indicative of burnt out scum? Maybe he is just tired. Oddly specific point. Just because he scumreads you does not mean he is scum. Notice I'm still calling you town, despite your silly vote on me. Half the people in the thread have given terrible reasons for their reads. Like me. Trolling isn't indicative. yadi ya. The only way I find the point on LS convincing is if they are mafia together, and then either way I hit with my vote.


ummmmmmmmmmmmm?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:58 GMT
#2490
i'll just vig her, I want to lynch milo for town reading (either me or hts) and then adding both of us to a scum list despite me pushing her the entire time
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:00 GMT
#2496
why's he addressing you when I said it lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:01 GMT
#2499
On July 08 2015 04:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote:
Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.

HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?


...and this.

##unvote
##vote milo109


this... just isn't scummy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:03 GMT
#2503
Milo109 (8): rsoultin, Scott31337, Holyflare, marvellosity, KelsierSC, ritoky, Oatsmaster, Harkon


well that sure was instantaneous
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:04 GMT
#2505
On July 08 2015 04:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:00 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote:
Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.

HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?


...and this.

##unvote
##vote milo109


this... just isn't scummy?


Look at the final page (page 3) of his filter, he goes right from the post I quoted above to the list post that you cited. As in, from "who knows if that is mafia indicative...." to throwing us on a would-lynch list.

See the problem now?


no, it's still not scummy because being weird and having you in a list of 10 people is ok

saying he town reads someone and then saying he's in the list is scummy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:06 GMT
#2508
I'm disputing what you're saying because it looks like you are just adding things on that don't make sense for the sake of saying things (which I'm saying you've been doing all game) and you have totally ignored this post still:

On July 08 2015 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 08 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
he might be playing like mafia but then there's 4 other mafia in this game so i'd prefer we focus on those other people for a change and since HtS is blatently ignoring everything I write I don't mind lynching her at all. I don't mind milo lynch but I want people to talk about him with me.


I'll be blunt here, I think you could be mafia and if you are, you have done a great job in the past derailing people with emotion and/or taking things out of context. I am still not at all impressed how/why you dropped the Trfel read or why you consider myself (or milo from your end) scummier than he.



You REALLY can't understand why I think you're scummy??? After i've posted about 20 paragraphs about it and made a case? REALLY?

Why do I care if you're impressed. If you town read Trfel and now I think his last post was honest and start town reading him why is your initial read of suspicion and how does that make sense for a mafia holyflare to even do. It doesn't, you're grasping at straws. You have no responses for any of the questions I raise. You misquote things, you take things out of context and then you try and spin it in a scummy way (milo post, ritoky actions) and then when I do it ONCE in this game (which isn't even true) you completely flip your read around. Your thoughts do not align with your actions. Your posts have no direction. Your scum read on milo did not progress in the slightest because you were "waiting for him to answer questions" despite him posting several times after that and I was asking him questions which you still didn't acknowledge.

You keep posting how I am pushing milo but think you are also mafia which very likely makes me mafia but I am pushing milo and you think i'm mafia. That is the biggest double standard in this game. SO SO SO mafia double standardy in fact that i'm voting you.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:11 GMT
#2512
I have to survive till n2 to vig hts (((
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:22 GMT
#2530
f5
"maybe hts will have replied to a single post directed to her suspicions on me and why they are wrong"
f5
"maybe hts will have responded now"
f5
"maybe hts just missed it, i'll repost it"
f5
"maybe hts is writing a post"
f5
"hts this is getting silly now"
f5
"hts plz"

On July 08 2015 04:06 Holyflare wrote:
I'm disputing what you're saying because it looks like you are just adding things on that don't make sense for the sake of saying things (which I'm saying you've been doing all game) and you have totally ignored this post still:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 08 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
he might be playing like mafia but then there's 4 other mafia in this game so i'd prefer we focus on those other people for a change and since HtS is blatently ignoring everything I write I don't mind lynching her at all. I don't mind milo lynch but I want people to talk about him with me.


I'll be blunt here, I think you could be mafia and if you are, you have done a great job in the past derailing people with emotion and/or taking things out of context. I am still not at all impressed how/why you dropped the Trfel read or why you consider myself (or milo from your end) scummier than he.



You REALLY can't understand why I think you're scummy??? After i've posted about 20 paragraphs about it and made a case? REALLY?

Why do I care if you're impressed. If you town read Trfel and now I think his last post was honest and start town reading him why is your initial read of suspicion and how does that make sense for a mafia holyflare to even do. It doesn't, you're grasping at straws. You have no responses for any of the questions I raise. You misquote things, you take things out of context and then you try and spin it in a scummy way (milo post, ritoky actions) and then when I do it ONCE in this game (which isn't even true) you completely flip your read around. Your thoughts do not align with your actions. Your posts have no direction. Your scum read on milo did not progress in the slightest because you were "waiting for him to answer questions" despite him posting several times after that and I was asking him questions which you still didn't acknowledge.

You keep posting how I am pushing milo but think you are also mafia which very likely makes me mafia but I am pushing milo and you think i'm mafia. That is the biggest double standard in this game. SO SO SO mafia double standardy in fact that i'm voting you.


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:23 GMT
#2533
let's lynch them both!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:24 GMT
#2535
seriously though wtf
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