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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:13 GMT
#6970
lol 4 pages only Oo
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:31 GMT
#6972
EBH's filter is decent but short as fuck. I actually like it. I'm not voting him today.

Another thought that came to my mind:

We had 3 NK's this night, all on town:

Marvellosity the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Scott31337 the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Harkon the Lieutenant has been killed!

I assume that the Harkon shot came from scum. Pretty much confirmed blue. How many shots can scum pull off with 2 members left?

MOD QUESTION: Was Kelsier able to submit a night action? Was that night action executed or was it nullified since he was killed before EoN?

Then, I assume that someone who was handed a gun by LightningStrike shot. Most likely, the target was scott because he was scumread quite heavily. The other kill would've been a scum kill on marv then.

What is the thought process between killing marv and not LightningStrike? Recognizing him as an experienced player who's capable of finding scum? I'd say HtS and HF could think that way.

Since the gun LS handed out was a 1-shot, I think it's safe for him to say who he gave the gun to. Also, I want the gun bearer to tell who he shot and why. That would make it clearer which targets where shot by scum and it would confirm two people as town.

Or, LS + the one who claims having received the gun are the last two scum members.
That is only possible if there is another blue that is able to shoot in the game.

At this point, we have 5 dead blues and 1 more claimed blue, LS. That makes six blues vs. four reds. I lack experience in that game so please tell me, is that a valid and balanced setup that is likely to be used by Blazinghand?

Okay, so tl;dr:

LS, who received the gun? Confirm one more townie please. Guy with gun, tell us who you shot.
Also, is 6 blues vs. 4 reds okay and a "normal" setup?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:33 GMT
#6974
EBWOP: I assume that there are four reds. I don't know for sure. How do people know that for sure? Experience?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:39 GMT
#6983
On July 16 2015 06:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 06:33 boxerfred wrote:
EBWOP: I assume that there are four reds. I don't know for sure. How do people know that for sure? Experience?


Holy shit.
Read the thread.
It says it in the OP.

Thefuck?! Couldn't find it. I even went to the model post that BH provided just now. I searched via CTRL+F "4" and "four". Can you show me please?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:41 GMT
#6986
Ouch, that hurts.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:44 GMT
#6987
okay, #tinfoil before I go to bed:

What if 3 scum roles with KP are alive and LS is lying about how he gave it to marv?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#6998
On July 16 2015 06:50 Half the Sky wrote:
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On July 16 2015 06:44 boxerfred wrote:
okay, #tinfoil before I go to bed:

What if 3 scum roles with KP are alive and LS is lying about how he gave it to marv?


Two scum KP are accounted for - Harkon/marv
Third KP is marv on Scott

Fourth death is modkill.

And I claimed the shot on MZ.

In your world, the real gunsmith hasn't claimed or a town LS gunsmith would lie on whom he gave it to. Why would either ever happen?


Hm thinking deeper into that, LS is pretty much confirmed, yep. I actually really like your post since it sets me back on trail, points out to the facts and is really a good reminder for me to not go totally crazy right now. That's highly unlikely for a scum member to do. Moving you to town lean. God, good night now.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 22:03 GMT
#7000
On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.


if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking

I was thinking of a scenario of 3 scum members alive carrying KPs and LS claiming to only give guns to dead people, thus justifying the third KP. I'm completely backing off of that on second thought though.


alsdkjsaöldkjsaöldk good night.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 05:28 GMT
#7139
On July 16 2015 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote:
On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny.

I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything.

Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong.

I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town)


genuinely thankyou for this.

Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from?

Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate?


Well, oats pushed geript for his "scum slip" thing all of day one right?

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On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

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On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op.

scumslip


It genuinely looks like Oats is a VT and "caught" out geript in his scum slip thing and besides that he had actual logical reasons to scum read geript too, he elaborated more on it later:
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On July 08 2015 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 08 2015 01:55 Harkon wrote:
Let's look at oats scumslip accusations:
On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op.

scumslip

This is extremely stupid since geript says in the very same post that roles (for example the VT role investigator) are listed in the OP.
On July 07 2015 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:22 geript wrote:
I think he's trying to say he scumslipped and was just following what HF did early not realizing there are two investigators.

scumslip x2

This is weird because geript doesn't connect the investigator to the VT role like I just said. I also already pointed that out when it happened. The 2 investigators comment itself is perfectly fine.

except geript isnt referring to the VT role pm when he says "roles", hes referring to the blue roles available in the game.

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On July 08 2015 02:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:11 geript wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:04 geript wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:

DMLE Investigator (Vanilla Townie): You’ve been working in Precinct 16 for a long time. You’ve seen a lot of messed up things in your day. When the going gets tough, you don’t stop. Every case takes a little bit out of you, but someone has to do this work. You are a VT.

Investigator Extraordinaire (Vigilante): You keep on thinking back to your idol, Rita Skeeter. You want to be just like her. You’re not gonna let things like an “ongoing investigation” or “hostage situation” stop you from writing your character assassination pieces. You’re a journalist; you and your quick-quotes quill doesn’t afraid of anyone. At night, you can fire a bullet to deal 1 kp to a target. You can't shoot during night 1.

Very hard to read the OP. Much tough. Very braindead.

So why didnt you say something referring investigator to vt?

Why would I need to?

because thats clearly what I was talking about if you had gotten the vt role pm.

But you didnt, so you messed up.


To oats, it was obvious that geript did not get the VT pm and he spent ages tunneling on it (I actually really like all of his posts d1 and maybe I should ignore oats less ) so if he was mafia he'd know that geript was actually blue.




Vivax is a bit hard to quantify but i'll try in a bit

Just jumping by from mobile: since you claimed VT via the PM as the very first post D1, I think it was obvious to everyone (thus to scum, too) that DMLE Investigator is a VT role PM. I think that really weakens your argumentation on town Oats.
But I really like the efforts you're making especially that you refuse to shitfight with rsoul.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 06:05 GMT
#7170
On July 16 2015 13:23 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 16 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 13:00 Holyflare wrote:
Rsoultin I understand you think you've done something and keep complaining to people about ruxxar being mafia but he is your only push this entire game since day 1. I would appreciate if you looked elsewhere since I do not think you get so focused on just one player as town ever. You have skirted around this obi thing for a good while and you don't need to look at his filter to comment on my posts or see his posts at all.


?? i have commented on obi quite a bit this game? just as i brought damdy to people's attention, and i know you haven't forgotten my pushing you, milo or scott. it's certainly irritating that you keep saying i'm not doing things when i have been...i brought scott to your attention multiple times before you started pushing him yourself, and yeah, i was wrong, but saying i'm not doing anything is blatantly false

but tbh i'm actually still not paying attention to this game fully...i already mentioned that not pushing you when you were up for lynch was strange and ows' excuse even stranger

^ this is why i'm really certain you're not actually reading my posts, btw

i'll take a look at the clarity thing...lol eventually >< which means before the end of the night. as for his townreads based on activity, i agree that for ruxx and myself that's nai...ruxx was plenty active last scumgame and anyone who has seen one of my scumgames knows i can post just as much as a scum hf xP

in all honesty, if we were going by activity levels, i probably have a lower activity/pg ratio than almost any of my games as either alignment this game -shrugs- though again, it's not something i keep close enough track of to know for sure


Yes yes ok, you're a good player. This wasn't the answer I'm looking for though it's so wishy washy and doesn't say anything about obi. I KNOW his reads based on activity mean nothing but why do you tell me what i already know instead of what it means foefor obi?

I mean... You just don't seem inquisitive and it's scummy and i can't get past it.

You just worded so well why i scumread hts in the past. Being in lylo with u or rsoul is not something i wanna do.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 06:07 GMT
#7172
Regarding my newbie game: yep i said in that that im new, used that for my scum play. However it should bei obvious that im not claiming to misunderstand or Not knowing but instead simply wasnt. Reading too well.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:14 GMT
#7273
I dont like claritys repeated "take it or leave " it and i like how hf is defending and i dont like rsoulstin subtly provocative towards hf.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:15 GMT
#7275
Im considering unvoting hf
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:23 GMT
#7280
My reasoning behind voting hf was sheeping ls and the idea of high risk high reward. Not lynching him since by now i feel like there is too much new information to work with, also due to hfs posts over the day. However it he flips scum in a Situation where i unvoted him ill probably be lynched next day. So i actually Think im gonna trust and even sheep hin. Off to the voting thread it goes. I committed now, lets see it it changes anything for good.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:24 GMT
#7281
Undecided on who to lynch. Not wanting a no lynch, we need to hit. Scum.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:28 GMT
#7283
Im fine with a clarity lynch.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:31 GMT
#7285
Yes. Tbh i think we should lynch between trfel for shitting up the thread and random votes, containing a vote in peetty confirmed town LS, or WoS for Not being here but posting elsewhere on tl. Was hin, wasnt it?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:33 GMT
#7287
Or, we could go for HtS for the Same meta read that i fear her. I dont think her style this game is realy different from not themed where she was scum and i dont see the differences that she pointed out before. Also rsoul might be scum trying to mislynch hf or town being really confident in his reads Bit have no ideawhich is true
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:35 GMT
#7289
Whoa clarity youre annoying with your wuestions that dont have a point. Ill Do What you do, which is saying "take it or leave it "


boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 14:36 GMT
#7290
On July 16 2015 23:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay so to get this straight:

Me
trfel
WoS
rsoultin
HtS

You think there's 3 scum in these 5 people?

No they are all town of course
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