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There's this post: On July 07 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote: Well that took a bit to read a good amount of town reads from it sorta, these are the people id want to lynch today Trfel Ritoky LIGHTNINGSTRIKE these are my most wanted lynched obvious preference Even bringing up Trfel later, when he dropped off the radar a bit: That post came where a lot of pressure was put on Trfel if I remember correctly. That makes me feel Trfel is a townie. Bussing that hard on one of the first days? I don't think so. That strengthens my town lean to a full blown town read. Damdred even did a case on Clarity: On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote: Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today. I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading. The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF. The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning. The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point. TLDR Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post Lacks follow through on some posts/questions Lacks scum reads Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks. This guy is scum vot ehim. And some people (me too) followed. More town cred for clarity in my eyes. However, some posts later, I find this: On July 09 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote: I like this post, I like ruxxor. He just seems so carefree with his thoughts. Damdred's response to the post that Breshke is relating to and which I brought up some posts ago. There's no follow up on this, it's simply a "I like that". I feel like that is an attempt to continue the KSC bus ("I'm okay with someone who starts scuimreading someone I already poke continuesly and disagree with" or so could be the picture he wants to paint). On July 10 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote: It's sad that Geript lost his reasoning. It's ok when I flip just look into Kel. Rs, milo So. That says: "Here's a scum member, Kel, here's a town member, milo, here's someone who's alignment we don't know, rsoul." Does not feel very helpful. But: On July 11 2015 05:25 Damdred wrote: HI EVERYONE, the first thing is like to say is ty everyone for a mildly enjoyable game, it wasn't to much a pain to read when I sat down and read it wven if it was long. Most everyone is a joy to play with and I'm glad I was able to play for a short time with some of my favorites <3 So now to get down to the basics of trying to leave the game in a better place when I die even though I've played like an idiot today. I feel like these people are extremely towny still in this game and are probably the top town. Marv Ruxxar Geript Ritoky hark Each one of these has something special about their games. I was deathly wrong about ritoky early because he broke his meta that I knew of him, but his later postings plus the kp went through even though he was blocked. Hark and geript are confirmed blues to me, geript tracked me to my target can't argue there. Hark ate a shot and Marv is his normal towny self. LS is interesting I'm that he claims he gave a gun to someone but we have a shit ton of blue claims, so if someone pipes up tommorow claiming a horrible shot o. One of these top towns its possible ls is fake claiming scum vigi on some bizzaro world but overall I think the claim is pretty believable. I like both HTS and I like Breshke. Both seem to care about the game and generally are trying to push what they think in the thread. Those are the people I am generally town reading no matter what. People I'm scum reading are Rsoultin Milo MZ Trfel I've talked a good bit about Milo and rsoultin in my filter lynch them. geript and a few others seem sure about mz. Theblack of carss bothers me and the ability to actively lurk while barely doing much. Wave fits in this category to btw. Trfel doesn't care to me when I look at the game more than likely is scum If I had to guess the last scum its someone in hf or wave. But maybe I'm horrible at reading wave, ke maybe to idk a bit torn any questions I'll be happy to answer before death Now look at that. He said before dieing that he wanted town to look into Kelsier. However, Kelsier disappeared from the scum list he provided. Those four people have two dead among them who both flipped town. The town reads list has even 4 people in it that flipped town. I am actually willing (due to the fact that Kelsier did not appear on that list) to think that no scum member is among the people listed there. So town cred for Ruxxar and rsoultin. So here is my updated read list: Town reads: boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (explained above) LightningStrike (claimed blue, weaponsmith) Town leans: Breshke ruXxar Clarity_nl Trfel (explained above) rsoultin (need to look into. Dropped off my radar.) Null: Vivax (need to look into, I feel like he's popping up every now and then, drive-by posting, not liking that) WaveofShadow (need to look into. Dropped off my radar.) Scum leans: Half The Sky Oatsmaster (almost a null read, need to look into) Scum reads: Holyflare | ||
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On July 15 2015 09:28 Clarity_nl wrote: I think the last big quote is meaningless because he was basically 100% getting lynched at that point, so it's a big wifom bomb. I had the same thought initially. But he was really dedicated, even trying to pull that mason stuff. Given that a lot of players were still alive, given that Damdred would've tried to cause as much confusion as possible, wouldn't it be great to list only townies, even if only to derail efforts? That's what makes me think this is like the one possible thing we can read from this post. | ||
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On July 16 2015 04:41 Clarity_nl wrote: Because he said "I'm not longer posting, just lynch me". Pay attention. And when did he really hold to such posts in this game? Last night, he said "gonna afk shitheads" then did not afk. | ||
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On July 16 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And this is relevant towards his alignment how? I did not say so. | ||
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On July 16 2015 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You were implying that it was. And the way you phrased it was very mafia. that feels really constructed. I can't see where I implied that it looked scummy. Can you actually provide reasons why you scumread me? | ||
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On July 16 2015 05:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you read the thread, you'd know how my read progressed. What is constructed about whatever it is you have a problem with? Aside from Holyflare, who else is mafia and why? Are you serious? You say "read the thread and you'd know how my read progressed" when I ask you to provide reasons? In the same post, you say "who else is mafia" when I basically did provide a fucking list on everyone like 5 pages ago? Regarding constructed: the implication of "hf is scum because he's not here" is constructed. I cannot see where my post implies that. | ||
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boxerfred ObiWanShinobi LightningStrike Town leans: Breshke ruXxar Clarity_nl Trfel rsoultin Null: Vivax WaveofShadow Bluehunter Scum leans: Half The Sky Oatsmaster Scum reads: Holyflare gosh dont tell me to read if you didnt read my posts. how can you read me as scum, then ask me that question literally out of nowhere, then refuse to give reasons but instead say "read it"? | ||
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On July 16 2015 05:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Meh. Okay. So why are you scum reading me? | ||
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On July 16 2015 05:30 Half the Sky wrote: Yeh he's been pushing me all game based on a meta read, but I've told him once he's completely misinterpreting my meta. Boxerfred, this is a large game. Most of town is at a crossroads right now, myself included and people - myself included - are not going to push someone without being fully confident in their read, which has been hampered by a combination of suboptimal play, digging through and trying to understand a much larger thread and much larger filters, and also newer players (e.g. milo, MZ, ruXxar, Clarity, WoS for me) that I am unfamiliar with, whereas, in Not Themed, I played with nearly everyone there before. That said, his read is within the realm of possibilities (believable) for his experience with me but it is wrong. His read on me does not make him scum. I do not however, understand why he is scumreading Oats. I think even Vivax asked him that too. I have him as town. I have not been pushing you. I have nothing to get a grip on, nothing that would be a good thing for me to push. That makes you town or a good scum player. Remember, it's a scum lean. Not a full blown read. On July 16 2015 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I said I misread something and took it back. Does it not bother you that both of your scumleans are on the same wagon as you? Hm I did not take that into consideration yet. I guess that's why they are leans and not reads? | ||
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On July 16 2015 06:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm not moving my vote off of ebh. Ever. Well I'll read his filter now. Maybe I'll find something. | ||
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