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On July 03 2015 04:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm done catching up. This is where I am at the moment
Wave (posting constantly, reads seems original, posts are fluid, scum hunting, similar reads to mine)
Soniv (active, consistent posts, looks like trying to solve the game and to discover people's alignment)
Cixah (bad opening, forced posts, unreasoned townreads, bad reasoning to vote Asmodeus as mayor)
Coma (big fluff, no contribution yet)
Notes: Lord Tolkien was looking slightly townie until that HF thing. Keep an eye on him.
HF did nothing in the game until now. Needs to shape up or he is scum.
BM casted a bad vote on Asmodeus. If he is scum, so is Asmodeus (UNFLIPPED ASSOCIATION)
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On July 03 2015 04:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 03:48 GlowingBear wrote:On July 02 2015 20:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 02 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:On July 02 2015 10:46 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote: Asmodeus for mayor I was expecting people asking me why I wasn't voting asmodeus. I'm disappointed. The quoted is the reason why. I know that Bill Murray, as scum, pushes his scum agenda very hard. I wouldn't be surprised if mafia Bill is voting scum partner asmodeus here. His reason to vote is weak (asmodeus wants to be mayor?). That said, I am not risking voting him for this sole reason. That seems a bit of a leap to me at this stage. Maybe I just don't have as much experience playing with BM as you do. I mean, it's possible, but BM isn't really pushing an agenda (yet). I would find it more likely that Asmo is scum over BM being scum (although I guess it's possible they're in cahoots, I have no reason to believe that yet). Asmo's dipping and ducking out of the limelight. An inexperienced (as he's mentioned) scum would want to avoid such a role in the thread and just try to lie low instead. On July 02 2015 11:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:On July 02 2015 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, I'm not voting Asmodeus You're smart. Power is scary. I don't want no puppet power that could be run by better players. Anyone voting for me knows I barely played in my other game and will be ineffective. Thus, pimping me is an early scum move. His thought here isn't entirely without merit. So if he's town, it could be BM starting a scum agenda, but I find it less likely at this point. But what about you, GB. Fine, you don't want Asmo mayor, who do you want mayor? (I want everyone's opinions, but might as well point the question at you since I'm talking to you.) + Show Spoiler +As an aside, I don't know what my activity during the work day is going to be like. I'm going to try to keep it low cuz I have projects I need to work on z_z It's not a leap to assume BM could be Mafia and that when he is Mafia he pushes the scummiest agenda possible. He doesn't worry to look townie. In a Mafia game he played together, he publicly nuked thread's top townie. That's why if BM is Mafia, I can easily see him voting for his partner out of nowhere. Your assumption that Asmodeus is more likely to be scum than BM doesn't make sense to me. And why BM is starting a scum agenda IF Asmodeus is town? It's actually the opposite. I have no people I want to vote for mayor yet. I'm eliminating possible scums first. I'll decide about it later. For now, I'm not voting Cixah, Asmodeus or BM. You keep saying that BM is pushing a scum agenda, but as far as I can tell, BM isn't pushing any agenda. He hasn't really done much at all, so I'm curious why you're already making the leap to assume that they're working together. Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 03:55 ComaDose wrote:On July 03 2015 03:47 plotspot wrote:
Can someone tell me more about Dandel Ion? What he is doing? Would he be a good mayor? I think he is just drunk right now. But he is consistent. Doing his darndest Coma impression. As entertaining as it is, it's cluttering things up. I know to expect shit posting from you D1 Dandel, but come on.
I'm not saying he IS pushing scum agenda, I'm saying he COULD be pushing his scum agenda by voting a scum partner and that's enough reason for me to vote none of them.
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On July 03 2015 06:57 Cixah wrote:
Forum mafia is a silly game, no way to catch peoples emotions. Lynching me will hurt town when I flip. 100% mislynch but go ahead, this game is already a shitstorm.
Still haven't heard anything non-meme related from HF this game. You ain't trump play games bro.
I'm trying to see you coming from town perspective, but I'm failing to do so. You are already whining when some suspicions is thrown at you saying that thread is already a shit fest when it is far from being something like this, and what's worse, you're just deflecting it to a lurker. If you think HF is odd, why aren't you just pushing him instead if just deflecting suspicions to him?
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##Vote: Wave of Shadow
You DO realise that voting the guy that doesn't even know his alignment will make the flip way less informational, right? Because he doesn't even have motivation behind his votes
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On July 04 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am inherently untrustworthy of you because of this you know, GB.
Got them chills that some scum are content to call me shit for last game and others will be planning on kissing my ass just to separate themselves.
I don't care. I think you're town and you've got a scumread on Cixah too
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On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.
I explained why I think Wave is most likely town
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On July 04 2015 01:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor. I explained why I think Wave is most likely town Just because you think he's town doesn't mean he's mayor material.
Why not?
Does he need a Political Science degree?
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I kinda tried to catch up but I'm feeling too tired and I have to sleep
I don't really know what to make of the lynch right now. I also think it's so weird that people voted Dandel. But all of his trolling and this lynch is looking scummy for me. At least out of gut feeling
I'm gonna sleep and solve this tonorrow
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Finally someone remembered that I exist
Why are you confirmed town btw?
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I've been extremely busy, that's why I'm not posting much. I still have to catch up with the thread, I'm at page 21. I've been taking a look at the thread but no more than this.
Wave, a martyr dying in the night and you assuming you were protected AND basing that baseless wifom to scumread me because I could be AFRAID of you is extremely opportunistic
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On July 06 2015 03:20 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:
I've been extremely busy, that's why I'm not posting much. I still have to catch up with the thread, I'm at page 21. I've been taking a look at the thread but no more than this.
Wave, a martyr dying in the night and you assuming you were protected AND basing that baseless wifom to scumread me because I could be AFRAID of you is extremely opportunistic Is it? Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am inherently untrustworthy of you because of this you know, GB.
Got them chills that some scum are content to call me shit for last game and others will be planning on kissing my ass just to separate themselves.
It doesn't matter if you threw suspicions at me and never pushed me therefore. Mordek could've be shot, mordek could've defended someone else. Assuming you are confirmed town is already wifom. Assuming that I'm scum because I'm afraid of you (wifom) because Mafia shot you (wifom) is DOUBLE WIFOM.
That's why basing your read on that, solely, is opportunistic, considering I haven't been active these days (which makes me an easier target)
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On July 06 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah you're defs scum. I remember this flailing.
##vote: GlowingBear
Uh huh
##Vote: Wave of Shadow
I've just showed you your thought process is baseless and you're going on the easy path of not refuting it and voting me anyway. You're probably mafia
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On July 06 2015 03:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah you're defs scum. I remember this flailing.
##vote: GlowingBear YES JOIN ME I assume this means it's a meta read? What are your thoughts on LT if/when the bear flips red
Those points doesn't consider other possibilities. It doesn't consider other people that could be looking townie, doesn't consider some soft claims. It also considers I'm afraid of Wave's play and that's why a whole team of Mafia shot him, which is completely baseless.
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Oops I meant to answer LT, not Soniv
I didn't have a meta read on him, I thought he was town, but I don't think town wave would be this stupid to rely on DOUBLE wifom to forge a scumread on me. It's horrid.
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lol
I've got some time now. Will catch up and give thoughts.
I want to understand why people is scum reading me before I start my defense, though. Is it only meta/night kill?
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Soniv, I will address to your questions soon
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Why are people forgetting that Dandel lynched HF out of nothing and not trying to understand his motivations further? If there is someone we should be looking at, it should be Dandel.
I'm catching up, and this post is very suspicions to my eyes:
On July 03 2015 23:13 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 06:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:On July 03 2015 06:50 ComaDose wrote:
i think you just voted cixah for mayor tho ty based Coma we bros now help me find the sinister mods I have always been, and will continue to be, an anti-mod activist  + Show Spoiler +Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 08:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:sorry for the fluffy post that was my first post and i'm really new to mafia but yes i did not support asmo as mayor I legit have no history to read into in mafia and it seems like a lot of people know how others play from the past so i feel at a disadvantage and dont want to put myself out there too much making hard claims who do i support for mayor... hmm... well LT, mordek, cixah, and asmo seem inclined to vote for plot. I dont know how common it is for someone to fake a claim but if he is on the level then a "neutral" mayor would probably lynch the most popular pick at the time in the thread which seems probably good. I agree that soniv and wave seem to be doing good town work and maybe that would be an okay place to bestow the mayor mantle as well. might even stretch to include LT in this group because i feel like his statement about HF was more for bait than an actual clumsy scum move. cixah was a proponent for asmo and only said plot would be an okay choice too but a few people are leaning toward thinking he is scum: soniv, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, and wave seemed pretty set on voting for someone who would lynch him Coma, there are a lot of words here, but you're not saying a whole lot. You're largely just summarizing what other people have said, and adding a bit of speculation. Do you have any soft reads? Any leanings? Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking. Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters. The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment. One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know. If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help. And on to the only person I didn't mention in those ramblings: ##Vote plotspotbecause I believe his claim and the odds suggest its more likely he will learn he is poster than mod. also he said "everyone who votes for me will be remove from my lynch list" so i know I'm protecting a poster (myself) by voting for him if he wins.
So I have a problem with this. If he doesn't understand why people are mad with VE, WHY is he voting for mayor the guy that wants to lynch VE? Also, WHY his claim has something to do with someone being votable and WHY it suggests plotspot is more likely to be a poster??? It doesn't make any sense.
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On July 04 2015 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
flipping for information lol
okay we only have one option left to salvage this
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
##Vote Holyflare
This guy even voted Holyflare for mayor, for christ sake!!!
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On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post. Still, Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking. I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me. Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town. Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town. Show nested quote +Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters. You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads). Show nested quote +The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.
One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know. pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch. This is the section which I really don't like. Show nested quote +If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help. Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking. Also, #vote: Dandel IonGetting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement. My order of preference: Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else
Can you tell me how the HELL did you have a strong town read on dandel?
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