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On June 18 2015 15:25 GlowingBear wrote:
You see, I saw scummy things in LS which I thought it was weird, and I pushed them, but way more for the sake of gathering information from him. I don't CARE for LS today. I can look at him tomorrow.
I did NOT try to stop Breshke from calling LS out. I just felt Breshke is looking scummy to me and I pointed that out.
OH HELL NO. I am not doing this dance again tomorrow with LS unless we have slam dunk scum. Either he gets to perma-town read status or we put him down. I ain't about that fucking shit.
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alright HF i am going to read BF's filter now just for you.
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BF's filter:
- Hi guys I am here! Notice me senpai post #1
- Hi guys I am here! Notice me senpai post #2 THIS TIME WITH PROMISES!
- I totally was skimming, then I read some weird shit between KSC and HF, so I read their filters. With no real game context, KSC is town and HF is mafia.
- Hi guys I am here! Notice me senpai post #3
- Bickering with HF over meta shit and self-aware meta shit.
- Opposite reaction that I had to a nydus post
Time to plug it into choppa 4 and see the result:
Would vote to lynch. Not attempting to solve the game, admittedly not reading the thread yet presuming an in depth case on a player with 0 thread context for the case, only interactions in the entire thread are with HF, bugs, ksc, and nydus which means he has ignored 3/4 of the game; not indicative of someone attempting to solve the game.
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like even the sub has interacted with more people in a 5 post filter and half the time than BF has. and he hasn't even claimed to have skimmed the game.
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fukkkk=cckkkckckfndjkkckck
i gotta go to jack in the box again? pregnant wives and their cravings man. shit blows. brb.
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well everyone who wanted to find scum together kinda peaced out while i was gone. guess it is on me...or i could just get rid of LS.
but anywayz i went and looked at mig's filter cuz i don't know the fuck why, i just did. and this post stood out to me.
On June 18 2015 06:51 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't really read his filter when I defended him honestly. I only really read his filter when Mig brought up Boxer's stuff regarding timing and failing to do promised stuff. As terrible as this is, this actually makes me think LS is more likely to be town haha. Mafia usually arent brazen enough to come out and admit shit like this.
my imaginary awake person? hey choppa 4, why did that shit stand out to you?
yo that's a great question brochacho. because it seems like an unusual and weak reason to turn a read on a dime over. prior to this mig thought that LS was being scummy and there wasn't much of a reason to believe his claim or town read him. here he goes into great depth about it:
On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim? Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time. Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game. When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell  The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out. And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town). Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games. LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum?
and expounding on it further here:
On June 18 2015 06:36 Mig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 06:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim? Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time. Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game. When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out. And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town). Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games. LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum? ehhhh mostly just that he has this annoying habit (the same thing onegu was talking about, as we've both explained to him why it's bad ><) of claiming at the first sign of pressure to the point of ridiculousness (i.e. with hardly any or very few votes on him) he did this d1 in greymist's last massive themed game just because hf and i were expressing suspicions. 2 people in a game of nearly 30 with no votes on him i don't think i've seen him do it as scum? and i'm already townreading him for tone/meta reasons...he usually doesn't push much of anything as scum, for one...even though he knows this i kinda agree with damdy that ls seems to have a hard time (or lack motivation) to fix even the smallest things in his mafia game I find it pretty suspect to just believe his claim because he hasn't done it as scum yet. I mean it is going to happen eventually right? Is LS just going to play for the rest of his life always claiming whenever he is a town blue? Pretty convenient that his claim happens to be a named VT also, the one blue claim he can make where he doesnt have to do anything. Regarding pushing people, is he really pushing shockey at all? It seems more like parroting other people to me. Tone stuff I can't really argue with, I need to read his other games.
to summarize, mig thought in regards to LS that:
1) there's no reason to instantly believe his blue claim
2) that his onegu interaction was manufactured
3) that he was buddying people
4) that he gives non-committal reads
5) follows thread sentiment onto shockkey and doesn't believe he is mafia
6) copies most of his material from other players
7) discredits all meta arguments about him doing this as town prior.
those are 7 points as to why mig thinks LS isn't town and his claim shouldn't be believed. outside of his read on GB, LS is the player he has focused on the most, yet he completely 180s the read over 1 dumb tell. someone who put enough time, research, and filter diving into making posts structured and researched in the manner you have....you really want me to believe that 1 dumb tell invalidated 7 points? i am not buying what this guy is selling here. he could very well be mafia.
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On June 18 2015 17:12 Breshke wrote:
Yeah nice post ritoky I obviously didn't see that either. Who do you think is scummier BF or Mig? I would still say BF
mig is probably more actively scummy to me because he provided content and then went back on his own content over basically nothing.
BF, while i see him as scummy i can kinda see a little bit of his perspective from bad town. skimming thread until strange interaction -> read more on thing you find strange -> give reads on thing you find strange -> defend your bad reads because you think highly of them. that is a progression that bad town can go through, but it is still shitty.
that said the above probably still isn't enuf to get me to not vote on LS lol
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On June 18 2015 17:30 Breshke wrote:
Shit as in he most likely flips named VT but I agree that itll probably happen eventually and will be a massive distraction going forward
going forward? it is already happening, read this shit:
On June 18 2015 15:27 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 15:25 GlowingBear wrote:
You see, I saw scummy things in LS which I thought it was weird, and I pushed them, but way more for the sake of gathering information from him. I don't CARE for LS today. I can look at him tomorrow.
I did NOT try to stop Breshke from calling LS out. I just felt Breshke is looking scummy to me and I pointed that out. OH HELL NO. I am not doing this dance again tomorrow with LS unless we have slam dunk scum. Either he gets to perma-town read status or we put him down. I ain't about that fucking shit.
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when he tells you "cuz named VT has no powers and is worthless, so why not claim it"; i will probably be asleep so make sure you ask him "then why didn't you claim it the moment the game started?" for me. i am relying on you for this. don't dishonour me or i will lynch you.
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On June 18 2015 17:53 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 17:50 ritoky wrote:
when he tells you "cuz named VT has no powers and is worthless, so why not claim it"; i will probably be asleep so make sure you ask him "then why didn't you claim it the moment the game started?" for me. i am relying on you for this. don't dishonour me or i will lynch you. but if he isn't here in like 4 hours ill probs be asleep as well. This burden is too heavy
1 of us has to lose sleep for this great cause. i vote you.
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On June 18 2015 17:59 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 17:55 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 17:53 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 17:50 ritoky wrote:
when he tells you "cuz named VT has no powers and is worthless, so why not claim it"; i will probably be asleep so make sure you ask him "then why didn't you claim it the moment the game started?" for me. i am relying on you for this. don't dishonour me or i will lynch you. but if he isn't here in like 4 hours ill probs be asleep as well. This burden is too heavy 1 of us has to lose sleep for this great cause. i vote you. I'm here now, i'm on it
you caught up it seems, what you think of me getting pissed about LS and then the other shit i typed. and anything else.
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On June 18 2015 23:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
like, more or less admitting that you don't give a fuck what LS's alignment is, and then admitting that you are lynching him for pure policy is by itself far scummier than anything LS did. At least he is trying and giving off the impression that he cares about the game, and even if he is scum and you are town he's probably a bigger asset to us.
i did this, why aren't you yelling at me?
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On June 18 2015 23:51 NydusHerMain wrote:
I failed to make my promise of reading everything and keeping up with my postage... sigh... And I have to go to work BUT I will say that I'm okay with either lynch but I'd rather LS live until tomorrow. The only reason I even had LS in my town circle is because I just assumed that his town meta was activity (?) . That's something that's been on my mind though. How was he even a lynch consideration if his meta is activity and he has a big filter? Weird weird. I think I got somewhere around a blue claim. Was that even a serious claim and does blue mean role or VT? If it's role, how many roles are there because that kind of scares me. Anyways, I still think Shockey is a great lynch but maybe he said something while I wasn't here. I'll switch my vote to BF when I'm able to if I determine Shockey is not lynchable.
TOLD YOU IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING
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I am very annoyed with GB, rsoul, and kelsier.
GB and rsoul were like "let's find scum" then didn't try to find scum very hard. then when they passed out i went scum hunting and plopped some work into the thread and neither one commented on it in the slightest. both were apparently reading me super town, so why the shit did they ignore it upon re-entry?
kels i am annoyed with because he promised to ask my question and didn't.
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On June 19 2015 04:09 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:08 ritoky wrote:
I am very annoyed with GB, rsoul, and kelsier.
GB and rsoul were like "let's find scum" then didn't try to find scum very hard. then when they passed out i went scum hunting and plopped some work into the thread and neither one commented on it in the slightest. both were apparently reading me super town, so why the shit did they ignore it upon re-entry?
kels i am annoyed with because he promised to ask my question and didn't. but LS explained when he got back and his reason was he was annoyed with me pressing him
But why not just claim named VT the moment the game begins?
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i mean, that's what i would do
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HF, what do you think of what i posted on mig?
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On June 19 2015 04:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:11 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2015 04:09 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:08 ritoky wrote:
I am very annoyed with GB, rsoul, and kelsier.
GB and rsoul were like "let's find scum" then didn't try to find scum very hard. then when they passed out i went scum hunting and plopped some work into the thread and neither one commented on it in the slightest. both were apparently reading me super town, so why the shit did they ignore it upon re-entry?
kels i am annoyed with because he promised to ask my question and didn't. but LS explained when he got back and his reason was he was annoyed with me pressing him But why not just claim named VT the moment the game begins? duno
this is why you were charged to ask him -.-
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On June 19 2015 04:14 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
I won't be able to make a case on onegu in enough time but I think gb is townier than bf
##Vote: boxerfred Dude Boxerfred is most likely going to get modkilled because he haven't voted. Switch to GB where we actually got a good case plus a lot of back to it please don't let your vote go to waste 
Don't hedge around modkills. I did it last game, and the mod fucked me in the anus.
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On June 19 2015 04:14 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:11 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2015 04:09 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:08 ritoky wrote:
I am very annoyed with GB, rsoul, and kelsier.
GB and rsoul were like "let's find scum" then didn't try to find scum very hard. then when they passed out i went scum hunting and plopped some work into the thread and neither one commented on it in the slightest. both were apparently reading me super town, so why the shit did they ignore it upon re-entry?
kels i am annoyed with because he promised to ask my question and didn't. but LS explained when he got back and his reason was he was annoyed with me pressing him But why not just claim named VT the moment the game begins? Because I didn't feel like claiming named VT at the start of the game.
cool, i am probably voting you this phase.
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