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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:04 GMT
#1057
like the only people to comment on boxerfreds posts are nydus and rsoultin, shame on all of you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:06 GMT
#1059
On June 18 2015 05:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 05:04 Holyflare wrote:
like the only people to comment on boxerfreds posts are nydus and rsoultin, shame on all of you


I was frying my own mafia


who turned out to be very likely town :D

either way, chop chop!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:09 GMT
#1061
On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target


How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again

Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference.

If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective.


you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment

if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed

[image loading]


OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the other


your list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring

Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit


If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post:

a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy
b) made a false timeline of events
c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context
d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question

I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced


On June 18 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:
Done now i'm erasing posts

HF
I'm town
Votes say leading wagon
Bf defends me and attacks your read
But he just add the thread and hasn't read my filter to know if your.read has merit or not?

How is this.escaping you?


how does you being an unflipped alignment mean anything
how does you being the leading wagon mean anything
bf didn't defend you he attacked me
he said he read the thread but if he read the thread then he wouldn't be confused about a timeline so simple as my vote -> that small post


none of this is relevant to what i'm saying at all either, he doesn't need to read your filter or my filter or anyone's filter or any part of the game to realise that that post is just not scummy in the slightest

if you make a read that is categorically false and i correct it and say you're actually a liar in what world is that scummy? no worlds that's why

if he got it wrong fair enough but i CORRECTED him and he still maintained that it was scummy and had to do with whether i knew my meta or not which is wholly irrelevant and if he still got it wrong in his head the meta point completely invalidates his entire read -.-

and i don't know why you're defending him either but if you make the argument that he is purely going after me because you were the leading wagon then why on earth would he pick my posts out (that make the most sense) over people's votes that didn't make any sense (gb literally quoted my post and voted you which should be far scummier to bf than my original pots if he thinks that post is scummy), va just voted you with no posts quoted at all etc etc etc




reasons
On June 18 2015 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
so boxerfreds 2 hours has long past


##unvote
##vote boxerfred

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:10 GMT
#1064
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 18 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 01:17 boxerfred wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:09 boxerfred wrote:
EBWOP: "So I'd like the more experienced players in here if HF is a player that is capable of changing his meta and who cares - or not." - "So I'd like to ASK ..."


whether i follow or am capable of changing my meta or not is irrelevant because that post is nothing about how i am playing and everything about how rsoul was playing and misrepresenting my play to make some bs scum read on me

not sure how you can make that post and not realise that

I think that this is actually really relevant because if you're not the guy to change you're meta, you're most likely town. if I am to trust the meta read that someone (have to recall) made on you. Gonna look into rsoul too when I'm home.
Just don't forget that all I did by now was skimming through the thread, reading Kelsier's and your filter. That's not too much, so my first conclusions won't be too great, eh?


i try and change but always fall into the same spammy nature eventually

either way your giant post says:

i'm mafia because i am aware of my meta and pointed out someone lying about past games to "fake" a read on me
i'm mafia because i posted that after i posted a small reply to a big post

you should be coming to the opposite conclusion on the first line since i'm pointing out people doing scummy things - lying (but for some reason you ignore that and say it's scummy i know my meta?)

and the second line isn't even true since it comes AFTER i made my vote and wasn't even in response to the big post since it was posted at the exact same time she posted the big one

then you say i could be town if i stick to my meta lol!??! how does knowing my meta relate to your read on me at all? IF i did something the same way 3 games in a row and someone says i didn't do that and i'm scummy for not acting the same way then i can't really comprehend how you could even make your case to begin with

it pretty much makes me think you just picked a filter and decided to scum read someone and then forgot about what actually happened in their filter altogether and it's pretty scummy


oh and this
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:12 GMT
#1067
On June 18 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 05:09 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target


How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again

Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference.

If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective.


you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment

if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed

[image loading]


OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the other


your list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring

Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit


If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post:

a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy
b) made a false timeline of events
c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context
d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question

I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced


On June 18 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:
Done now i'm erasing posts

HF
I'm town
Votes say leading wagon
Bf defends me and attacks your read
But he just add the thread and hasn't read my filter to know if your.read has merit or not?

How is this.escaping you?


how does you being an unflipped alignment mean anything
how does you being the leading wagon mean anything
bf didn't defend you he attacked me
he said he read the thread but if he read the thread then he wouldn't be confused about a timeline so simple as my vote -> that small post


none of this is relevant to what i'm saying at all either, he doesn't need to read your filter or my filter or anyone's filter or any part of the game to realise that that post is just not scummy in the slightest

if you make a read that is categorically false and i correct it and say you're actually a liar in what world is that scummy? no worlds that's why

if he got it wrong fair enough but i CORRECTED him and he still maintained that it was scummy and had to do with whether i knew my meta or not which is wholly irrelevant and if he still got it wrong in his head the meta point completely invalidates his entire read -.-

and i don't know why you're defending him either but if you make the argument that he is purely going after me because you were the leading wagon then why on earth would he pick my posts out (that make the most sense) over people's votes that didn't make any sense (gb literally quoted my post and voted you which should be far scummier to bf than my original pots if he thinks that post is scummy), va just voted you with no posts quoted at all etc etc etc




reasons
On June 18 2015 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
so boxerfreds 2 hours has long past


##unvote
##vote boxerfred



it's not bad but LS or shockey is better.


no qualms with that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:13 GMT
#1068
On June 18 2015 05:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
how much of your boxerfred tunnel has to do with him voting you


a smidge since i'm an "easy" target from my post style to new people but it's not the overlying principal reason
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:15 GMT
#1070
also bugs unless you show me a game where kelsier strongly pushes people and digs for information and inconsistencies as mafia then i'm not going to vote him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:16 GMT
#1072
On June 18 2015 05:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 05:09 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target


How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again

Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference.

If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective.


you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment

if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed

[image loading]


OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the other


your list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring

Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit


If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post:

a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy
b) made a false timeline of events
c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context
d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question

I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced


On June 18 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:
Done now i'm erasing posts

HF
I'm town
Votes say leading wagon
Bf defends me and attacks your read
But he just add the thread and hasn't read my filter to know if your.read has merit or not?

How is this.escaping you?


how does you being an unflipped alignment mean anything
how does you being the leading wagon mean anything
bf didn't defend you he attacked me
he said he read the thread but if he read the thread then he wouldn't be confused about a timeline so simple as my vote -> that small post


none of this is relevant to what i'm saying at all either, he doesn't need to read your filter or my filter or anyone's filter or any part of the game to realise that that post is just not scummy in the slightest

if you make a read that is categorically false and i correct it and say you're actually a liar in what world is that scummy? no worlds that's why

if he got it wrong fair enough but i CORRECTED him and he still maintained that it was scummy and had to do with whether i knew my meta or not which is wholly irrelevant and if he still got it wrong in his head the meta point completely invalidates his entire read -.-

and i don't know why you're defending him either but if you make the argument that he is purely going after me because you were the leading wagon then why on earth would he pick my posts out (that make the most sense) over people's votes that didn't make any sense (gb literally quoted my post and voted you which should be far scummier to bf than my original pots if he thinks that post is scummy), va just voted you with no posts quoted at all etc etc etc




reasons
On June 18 2015 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
so boxerfreds 2 hours has long past


##unvote
##vote boxerfred



it's not bad but LS or shockey is better.


no qualms with that


seriously LS has played incredibly scummy and he just claims named VT, the easiest thing to claim tbh and everyone is like well fuck he must be town then.
It boggles my mind no one would do that as town. Unless they are actually the most mentally subnormal cretin to ever play mafia.


and the circle of life continues and it's the same every game and we all get angry for the same reasons and then it happens in the next game too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:21 GMT
#1078
if i were to say to you that the shirt you were wearing was black when you know for a fact that it's white and has always been white then what would you say to that person?

"I think you're dumb because the shirt is white, not black"

you're effectively saying that in this situation the fact that you pointed out that your shirt is white even though you have worn some different coloured shirts in your lifetime makes YOU the idiot..... for no reason?

what you are saying does not make sense
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:23 GMT
#1079
On June 17 2015 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
ok rsoultin thing is basically

tone
weird pushing on needless shit that i do all the time (literally the last 3 games i've played town in)
arguing semantics
fighting bugs on pointless things too



^ post that boxerfred has a problem with

On June 17 2015 12:59 Holyflare wrote:
eh i don't have any gripes with what she just posted


^ post STRAIGHT AFTER THAT POST THAT OBVIOUSLY RELATES TO RSOULS BIG POST

are you really going to be that disingenuous boxerfred?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:25 GMT
#1081
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=30#591

there's no way somebody reading the thread can get that confused it's like 2 posts separating it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:27 GMT
#1083
not to mention if you think my reaction is the scummiest then why on earth did you not even question or mention glowingbear sheeping that post you disliked and voting rsoul? or anyone else?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 20:28 GMT
#1084
On June 18 2015 05:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Should I sheep you HF?


for the time being yes
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 21:09 GMT
#1101
On June 18 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 05:25 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=30#591

there's no way somebody reading the thread can get that confused it's like 2 posts separating it


i actually agree with this

in a skim, especially just a filter skim, maybe...but you'd expect him to have gone back and checked it when he'd already been told he was wrong :/ and regardless he was clearly aware of my post so he had to have seen the posts in the thread, since hf wasn't quoting me

i'm fine with a bf lynch...i'd kind of expected him to come back with something else since he said he still needed to read


if you skim my filter they are literally the posts next to each other which is even worse -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 21:50 GMT
#1132
On June 18 2015 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:36 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:
Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim?

Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time.

Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game.

When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:

It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.


And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town).

Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games.


LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum?

I don't got anything original sorry Maybe Boxer his posts seemed pretty weird esp because it looked like he didn't really read the thread when he posted which more likely to come from scum. Also HF because here another rule about rsoultin: If one of HF or rsoultin is scum they don't get along which has been proven to be correct for the most part I townreading rsultin therefore he would be the scum by the rule. Also the LYLO rule about her is actually accurate she for the most part now being night killed at night 1 and night 2 as town so when she reaches LYLO she is scum. I willing to take the blame of town!shockeyy lynch if he flips town but I believe he will flip red.


What happened to this

On June 18 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Boxerfred is new HF give it some time bro like Bugs said he only started playing Mafia recently :O



Honestly I decided to reread Boxer's filter after Mig commented about Boxer's stuff about timing and failing to deliver but I think if Boxer is town he will clear it up soonish but if he scum he prob wont do anything.


you decided to re-read after mig commented on it...yeh I guess he is the only one who brought it up??
you said boxer is newish so why is he scum not new now?

when hf pinged him out you defended bf because he was a new player but what has changed, the posts are still the same.

I didn't really read his filter when I defended him honestly. I only really read his filter when Mig brought up Boxer's stuff regarding timing and failing to do promised stuff.


are you fucking kidding me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 21:57 GMT
#1137
On June 18 2015 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:
Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim?

Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time.

Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game.

When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:

It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.


And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town).

Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games.


LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum?

I don't got anything original sorry Maybe Boxer his posts seemed pretty weird esp because it looked like he didn't really read the thread when he posted which more likely to come from scum. Also HF because here another rule about rsoultin: If one of HF or rsoultin is scum they don't get along which has been proven to be correct for the most part I townreading rsultin therefore he would be the scum by the rule. Also the LYLO rule about her is actually accurate she for the most part now being night killed at night 1 and night 2 as town so when she reaches LYLO she is scum. I willing to take the blame of town!shockeyy lynch if he flips town but I believe he will flip red.


I don't know how anyone reading the thread can write something like this at all.

and then he goes and says the only reason he looked at boxerfred was because mig said something

MIG?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHHA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 22:03 GMT
#1146
On June 18 2015 07:01 ritoky wrote:
so are we to assume that BM didn't confirm and the game just started cuz the host wanted to? w/e


no since hts said if he doesn't confirm that other guy on the replacement list will replace in his slot

so bill murray confirmed and then replaced

so bill murray confirmed received his role pm and quit

so bill murray was probably mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 22:03 GMT
#1147
On June 18 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Why vote the guy who just replaced in? Like seriously that is the stupidist thing you would do other than voting a blue in me as a named VT..........


ls tell me what i've done this game since i'm the only one of two of your scum reads
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 22:05 GMT
#1150
On June 18 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
So can we stop picking on LS before drastic things happen?!?

But seriously LS I got you bud, don't worry partner.


no
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 22:08 GMT
#1155
On June 18 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Please, hes my buddy and hes town. So leave him alone or else bad day damdred will be sad and i'm having a really good d1


i've never seen a town lightningstrike make such absurd statements as he has just made and throwing out arbitrary scum reads he can't possible think are correct
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