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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 19:45 GMT
#1035
also is it sad that i want to give bugs a day 1 town pass for effort?

he kinda has that angry tunnel thing going on that i used to do as mafia, and his cases are mind numbing and i hardly find them as scum indicative in the slightest, but he cares...maybe...

choppa 4 considering.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 19:49 GMT
#1041
On June 18 2015 04:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting LS too


wtf why are you jumping so hard on this opportunity to lynch an obvious townie

are you scum again?


Explain to me why he is obvious townie
Explain to me why obvious townie would claim named VT when, well, he is obvious townie?


he wasn't necessarily obvious townie prior to the claim but any and all doubts should have been erased to people who understand the slightest thing when it comes to town/mafia motivation when he ended up claiming.

He had 1 vote and was in no serious threat of being lynched and yet he blue claimed on day 1. What kind of scum move would that be? It literally makes 0 sense from a scum perspective, especially when we all know how bad LS's scum play is.


You say too dumb to be scum.

They say too anti-town to be town.

Onegu says stop doing this, going to lynch you every time.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 19:56 GMT
#1048
On June 18 2015 04:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:49 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting LS too


wtf why are you jumping so hard on this opportunity to lynch an obvious townie

are you scum again?


Explain to me why he is obvious townie
Explain to me why obvious townie would claim named VT when, well, he is obvious townie?


he wasn't necessarily obvious townie prior to the claim but any and all doubts should have been erased to people who understand the slightest thing when it comes to town/mafia motivation when he ended up claiming.

He had 1 vote and was in no serious threat of being lynched and yet he blue claimed on day 1. What kind of scum move would that be? It literally makes 0 sense from a scum perspective, especially when we all know how bad LS's scum play is.


You say too dumb to be scum.

They say too anti-town to be town.

Onegu says stop doing this, going to lynch you every time.


people say "too anti-town to be town" when they really mean "I think that play was stupid and you deserve to die for it"

That kind of mentality literally ignores all possible motivational reads because it doesn't involve motivation at all and is simply a surface-level misinterpretation of what is going on. Try to think through it from the perspective of LS being scum and it makes no sense at all for him to do that


This is coming from a brain of someone who claimed jk or rb on day 1 with 2 votes on him; so the fact that you seem to think you have some level of comprehension of his thought process astounds me. Also, you're way too dismissive of other people's arguments; I can see why people fight with you.

But let me place you in a stupid scenario where he can be mafia: LS's brain: "Oh hey, you know what would be trixxy? I claim blue day 1 a bunch so it is kinda in my meta now. Oh hey look there is named VT in this game, man maybe I should wifom bomb and ride my meta by fake claiming a blue day 1; they'll totally write it off as me being dumb again"

Wow look, I imagined a scenario where he could be mafia! Do I think it is likely the case? No he is probably town. Do I want to lynch him for his play? Yeah, kinda.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 20:18 GMT
#1075
On June 18 2015 05:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:56 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:49 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting LS too


wtf why are you jumping so hard on this opportunity to lynch an obvious townie

are you scum again?


Explain to me why he is obvious townie
Explain to me why obvious townie would claim named VT when, well, he is obvious townie?


he wasn't necessarily obvious townie prior to the claim but any and all doubts should have been erased to people who understand the slightest thing when it comes to town/mafia motivation when he ended up claiming.

He had 1 vote and was in no serious threat of being lynched and yet he blue claimed on day 1. What kind of scum move would that be? It literally makes 0 sense from a scum perspective, especially when we all know how bad LS's scum play is.


You say too dumb to be scum.

They say too anti-town to be town.

Onegu says stop doing this, going to lynch you every time.


people say "too anti-town to be town" when they really mean "I think that play was stupid and you deserve to die for it"

That kind of mentality literally ignores all possible motivational reads because it doesn't involve motivation at all and is simply a surface-level misinterpretation of what is going on. Try to think through it from the perspective of LS being scum and it makes no sense at all for him to do that


This is coming from a brain of someone who claimed jk or rb on day 1 with 2 votes on him; so the fact that you seem to think you have some level of comprehension of his thought process astounds me. Also, you're way too dismissive of other people's arguments; I can see why people fight with you.

But let me place you in a stupid scenario where he can be mafia: LS's brain: "Oh hey, you know what would be trixxy? I claim blue day 1 a bunch so it is kinda in my meta now. Oh hey look there is named VT in this game, man maybe I should wifom bomb and ride my meta by fake claiming a blue day 1; they'll totally write it off as me being dumb again"

Wow look, I imagined a scenario where he could be mafia! Do I think it is likely the case? No he is probably town. Do I want to lynch him for his play? Yeah, kinda.


don't tell me what I do and do not know. The simple fact is that if I actually believed LS were scum right now I'd be tunneling the shit out of him, and he'd most probably flip red. I read enough of his games and I saw his play in the previous game and it is enough for me to be confident on this read. If he's done it before then that's literally another point in his favour. As scum to understand that such a play would attract attention and then do it anyway is so ballsy that I don't think even the best scum would even consider it.

The latter half of your post is just fitting a whimsical scenario to this read that LS is scum. You don't come to a conclusion first and then attempt to explain it later, that's not how scumhunting works. That's basically the definition of confirmation bias.


yeah you didn't comprehend. you already made up your mind, no point in talking with you about this further.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 20:48 GMT
#1088
On June 18 2015 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI I Never had claimed blue as scum before simple as that for the counter point to GB said I had claimed blue as scum before -_-


On June 17 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
My fucking VT claim. I really think HtS RNG machine is broken... Have rolled VT in everyone of her games...

Sorry that VT claim wont fly you already cashed in on that in XXX so nice try you must prove to us that you are town other than a VT claim :o


derp
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 20:53 GMT
#1090
On June 18 2015 05:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 05:48 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI I Never had claimed blue as scum before simple as that for the counter point to GB said I had claimed blue as scum before -_-


On June 17 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
My fucking VT claim. I really think HtS RNG machine is broken... Have rolled VT in everyone of her games...

Sorry that VT claim wont fly you already cashed in on that in XXX so nice try you must prove to us that you are town other than a VT claim :o


derp

What those two posts you quoted for when you said derp?


LS: "i never claim blue as scum"
Onegu: "i only claim VT as town"

see it now?

choppa 4 reveals.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 20:57 GMT
#1095
On June 18 2015 05:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 05:53 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 05:49 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 05:48 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI I Never had claimed blue as scum before simple as that for the counter point to GB said I had claimed blue as scum before -_-


On June 17 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
My fucking VT claim. I really think HtS RNG machine is broken... Have rolled VT in everyone of her games...

Sorry that VT claim wont fly you already cashed in on that in XXX so nice try you must prove to us that you are town other than a VT claim :o


derp

What those two posts you quoted for when you said derp?


LS: "i never claim blue as scum"
Onegu: "i only claim VT as town"

see it now?

choppa 4 reveals.

Onegu had claimed VT as scum too? I never had claimed blue as scum and I know I not scum this game but rather a named VT.


Jesus.

You're literally making the same argument to defend yourself that you discredited early in the game. For many games Onegu only claimed VT as town, then guess what? He broke the trend. Wow! Hey look your defense sux cuz logic. Also dunno why you're even defending yourself if you're actually blue.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 21:10 GMT
#1102
On June 18 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote:
-_-

i see no reason to lynch ls over his claim

if he's scum he's being coached to do it specifically to break meta

and rit...claiming vt and blue claiming are a bit different...can we at least agree that one of those actions is inherently riskier than the other?


not saying they're the same thing, saying it's the same defense
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 21:58 GMT
#1138
On June 18 2015 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:36 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:
Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim?

Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time.

Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game.

When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy
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On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:

It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.


And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town).

Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB
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On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games.


LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum?

I don't got anything original sorry Maybe Boxer his posts seemed pretty weird esp because it looked like he didn't really read the thread when he posted which more likely to come from scum. Also HF because here another rule about rsoultin: If one of HF or rsoultin is scum they don't get along which has been proven to be correct for the most part I townreading rsultin therefore he would be the scum by the rule. Also the LYLO rule about her is actually accurate she for the most part now being night killed at night 1 and night 2 as town so when she reaches LYLO she is scum. I willing to take the blame of town!shockeyy lynch if he flips town but I believe he will flip red.


What happened to this

On June 18 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Boxerfred is new HF give it some time bro like Bugs said he only started playing Mafia recently :O



Honestly I decided to reread Boxer's filter after Mig commented about Boxer's stuff about timing and failing to deliver but I think if Boxer is town he will clear it up soonish but if he scum he prob wont do anything.


you decided to re-read after mig commented on it...yeh I guess he is the only one who brought it up??
you said boxer is newish so why is he scum not new now?

when hf pinged him out you defended bf because he was a new player but what has changed, the posts are still the same.

I didn't really read his filter when I defended him honestly. I only really read his filter when Mig brought up Boxer's stuff regarding timing and failing to do promised stuff.


are you just trying to do as much anti-town shit as possible?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:01 GMT
#1144
so are we to assume that BM didn't confirm and the game just started cuz the host wanted to? w/e
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:07 GMT
#1153
On June 18 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
So can we stop picking on LS before drastic things happen?!?

But seriously LS I got you bud, don't worry partner.


hey buddy, get in here:

[image loading]
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:20 GMT
#1183
On June 18 2015 07:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:07 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
So can we stop picking on LS before drastic things happen?!?

But seriously LS I got you bud, don't worry partner.


hey buddy, get in here:

[image loading]


It's a pocket but it's also an ass.

What are you trying to imply?

Now, ritoky, who should we lynch?


could be a breast pocket too, shouldn't assume things son.

i don't have a particularly clear mafia today if i am being honest. i am probably going to be more prone to sheep one of my town reads unless i find something solid i like.

i think the most anti-town players are LS and bugs; but they could both be town cuz of stupid claiming and effort respectively.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:21 GMT
#1187
On June 18 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Why vote the guy who just replaced in? Like seriously that is the stupidist thing you would do other than voting a blue in me as a named VT..........


ls tell me what i've done this game since i'm the only one of two of your scum reads




4th time i've had to quote the same question now

+

On June 18 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Why vote the guy who just replaced in? Like seriously that is the stupidist thing you would do other than voting a blue in me as a named VT..........


ls tell me what i've done this game since i'm the only one of two of your scum reads


I following the rsoultin rule here where if you and her don't get along one of you is mafia I got rsoultin as town therefore you scum by that rule


yeh and as hf points out that is total stupid and arbitrary


You not seen the rule in effect before :o Check every game they been together and read their filters they regarding each other :o


i'm not going to do that

your scum reads are totally arbitrary , you throw this hf scum read totally out of nowhere..ALONGSIDE A BF SCUM READ.

WHICH YOU ONLY GOT AFTER READING MIG....

EVEN THOUGH HF IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP FIRST

YOU KNOW...THE OTHER GUY YOU SCUM READ>

but you probably didn't read that part either...like when you defended bf without reading him either.

holy shit why aren't there 13/14 votes on LS right now jesus christ.


Nothing except for going after Boxer that's all I remember from you and you been sidelining this game more than you normally do.


if by sideline you mean 2nd or 3rd largest filter in the game....A+...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:25 GMT
#1196
On June 18 2015 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Why vote the guy who just replaced in? Like seriously that is the stupidist thing you would do other than voting a blue in me as a named VT..........


ls tell me what i've done this game since i'm the only one of two of your scum reads




4th time i've had to quote the same question now

+

On June 18 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

ls tell me what i've done this game since i'm the only one of two of your scum reads


I following the rsoultin rule here where if you and her don't get along one of you is mafia I got rsoultin as town therefore you scum by that rule


yeh and as hf points out that is total stupid and arbitrary


You not seen the rule in effect before :o Check every game they been together and read their filters they regarding each other :o


i'm not going to do that

your scum reads are totally arbitrary , you throw this hf scum read totally out of nowhere..ALONGSIDE A BF SCUM READ.

WHICH YOU ONLY GOT AFTER READING MIG....

EVEN THOUGH HF IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP FIRST

YOU KNOW...THE OTHER GUY YOU SCUM READ>

but you probably didn't read that part either...like when you defended bf without reading him either.

holy shit why aren't there 13/14 votes on LS right now jesus christ.


Nothing except for going after Boxer that's all I remember from you and you been sidelining this game more than you normally do.


if by sideline you mean 2nd or 3rd largest filter in the game....A+...

He barely contributed stuff as far I remember outside of Boxer and me.


How much of the thread did you skip?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:27 GMT
#1197
On June 18 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
Now I don't think that's a fair thing to say about HF there LS. Hes been pretty confrontational this guy and in the middle of the field from what I've been reading.

However LS is still town, and i'd rather stop talking about that and get back to talking about Fied or even box.


i've been talking about boxer the entire game and everyone repeatedly ignores him for absolutely no reason so either hop on my wagon or not because this train is going to lynchville

i'm still just going to interrogate people i don't think make sense since every time i rely or falter in a read it's because i trusted someone else's read


he has a low volume of posts and is hard to interact with, he popped into the thread gave some arbitrary scum read on you that was weak at best, defended it, peaced out, then had the opposite reaction to nydus that i did. i would lynch him, but not for a great reason moreso cuz he isn't in my town list.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:34 GMT
#1211
On June 18 2015 07:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:20 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:07 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
So can we stop picking on LS before drastic things happen?!?

But seriously LS I got you bud, don't worry partner.


hey buddy, get in here:

[image loading]


It's a pocket but it's also an ass.

What are you trying to imply?

Now, ritoky, who should we lynch?


could be a breast pocket too, shouldn't assume things son.

i don't have a particularly clear mafia today if i am being honest. i am probably going to be more prone to sheep one of my town reads unless i find something solid i like.

i think the most anti-town players are LS and bugs; but they could both be town cuz of stupid claiming and effort respectively.


Why bugs is but rsoultin isn't?


because rsoul went like: doing stuff doing stuff SHIT FIGHT RAWR doing stuff doing stuff
and bugs went like: SHIT FIGHT KELS SHIT FIGHT RSOUL SHIT FIGHT KELS AGAIN RAWWWWWWRRRR plus he doesn't seem very capable of looking at other povs so far.

plus rsoul has the largest filter so she is 92% likely to be town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:37 GMT
#1215
yo HF, gimme yo read on me? you still fencing me cuz of mind melds?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 17 2015 22:41 GMT
#1221
On June 18 2015 07:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
gb you gonna do anything?


Not now

I kinda don't feel like reading the game

Will do something later


you gonna conclude somethin from dem questions or you just wearing lingerie then falling asleep
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 18 2015 02:04 GMT
#1280
On June 18 2015 09:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 09:34 Holyflare wrote:
yeh you haven't said shit about bf other than his first post so there's that


ARGH

FINE, I'LL DO SHIT

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 18 2015 04:52 GMT
#1333
ugh i am in such a bad headspace right now. reading this thread making me angrier.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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