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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 18 2015 21:56 GMT
#2066
Why the fuck is shockey switching?!?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 07:32 GMT
#2993
Hi I am here, regarding my reasons for voting bf

I was in a tourney and trying to catch up on 30 pages in the last 2 hours on my phone in between hands. I didn't have the time to look up past games for gb. I asked for examples of GB doing the caps lock thing as town (which nobody provided), I asked boxer and gb both questions. Gb answered them and boxer ignored them. I ended up just going with my gut based on boxer's return looking super shady/him promising content and never producing/ignoring me, Gb was at least trying and I would have felt like a retard if I lynched him over a mafia bf and the caps lock thing ended up being bs.

It makes literally no sense for me not to vote Gb if I were mafia.

1) If me and Gb were mafia team mates I would have just bussed him for town cred, lynch was super close and I made the first case against him. Why wouldn't I just try to hammer him for even more town cred instead of drawing attention to myself?

2) If Gb were town again why would I vote bf over him? Why draw attention to myself when nobody would even bat an eye if I voted gb? I have been playing a tournament every single day since the game has started. If I were mafia I would be doing whatever I could to fly under the radar. Instead of actually asking questions in the thread 10 min before lynch while on my phone in a tourney I could have just voted gb 6 hours before and afkd

So yea you can believe it or not but I voted who I thought was most likely to be mafia simple as that.

Anyway I went back and looked through Gb's past games and found these posts when he was mislynched as a townie in hammertime mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 01 2015 11:34 GlowingBear wrote:
OH GOD I WAS RIGHT SINCE DAY ONE

FUCK YOU ALL

I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY WITH YOU

HOW COULD YOU FUCKING INSTA VOTE ON LYLO?

HOW COULD YOU FUCKING HAMMER PALMAR WITHOUT NO READS AT HIM AND WHILE TWO OF YOUR SCUMREADS (ONEGU AND ME) WERE VOTING HIM

WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING LIAN?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH


On January 31 2015 01:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude those were TWO QUOTES.
TWO QUOTES.

SHOW ME ANY EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO BRINGING ATTENTION TO YOUR LATE CASE ON ME.
PALMAR SAYS WHARRGARBL LYNCH TOAD

WHAT DO YOU DO?
KEEP SILENT.
YOU DON'T SAY "HEY LOOK AT MY CASE AND GIVE THOUGHTS"

ARGH


On January 31 2015 01:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude those were TWO QUOTES.
TWO QUOTES.

SHOW ME ANY EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO BRINGING ATTENTION TO YOUR LATE CASE ON ME.
PALMAR SAYS WHARRGARBL LYNCH TOAD

WHAT DO YOU DO?
KEEP SILENT.
YOU DON'T SAY "HEY LOOK AT MY CASE AND GIVE THOUGHTS"

ARGH


So the caps lock thing was bs, and it does look to me like Gb is actually trying to solve the game. He could have kept his read on me as mafia (especially with rsoul accusing me) but instead tried to look at it from the viewpoint that I could be town. I don't really see the mafia motivation behind it.

The suspicion of me for all of this makes me really wary of rsoul. You are voting to lynch Gb now (who you have been adamant the entire game is town) simply based on the fact that you think I am mafia???? Rsoul I have just come back from a 1.5 year break and only played 1 game, have you even bothered to read that one game to compare it to this one? Or are you too busy posting 22 pages worth of filter to actually try and find scum?

You seem like a smart person I find it really weird that you can't see any possible reasoning for why I would vote like I did as a townie, and now you are lynching your town read because you are so 100% sure I am mafia (yet I am pretty confident you havent even read any of my past games). Seems shady as shit.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 07:38 GMT
#2994
Also LS is voting me with the sole reasoning being, my death would help him figure out other alignments lol. Doesnt even think I am scum apparently, just straight going with the thread sentiment because of rsoul.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 07:56 GMT
#2995
Reading rsoul's past mafia games, but the filters are all 20-30 pages going to take awhile.

In the mean time yam is a really good lynch.

1) He just rolled mafia in my last mini, and guess what he wasn't motivated to do anything.

On June 06 2015 04:51 yamato77 wrote:
fecal is right tho, game is pretty boring

until BF does something that looks even remotely townie, I'm content sitting on the idea of lynching him,

you lazy fucks can do the scumhunting this game, I'm uninspired.


Sound familiar

On June 21 2015 13:27 Lohengramm wrote:
I actually have no motivation to play this game lolol


2) He isn't arguing with anyone, compare this game to his most recent town games in aperture, mafia mini mafia2, assassination. He was arguing with people pretty much non stop in all of them. In my last game with him where he was mafia he only argued with marv after being called mafia and when he scum slipped that he knew a townie claim was real. Otherwise he was super passive and didn't give a shit who was mafia. Also while reading his last 3 town games I didn't see him ever say anything about being lazy/unmotivated.

3) Making the replacement excuse for being lazy. He fucking knew he was replacing in, so why is he so unmotivated? The idea that bill murray came in saw he was mafia replaced out yam saw he was mafia and decided to not do shit makes total sense.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 08:44 GMT
#2996
I am going to assume the entire mafia team probably wasnt active right around last eod (in my experience there is almost always somebody who is just trying to coast so they voted early then just don't show back up so they don't have to take any stands on new info). Looking at the people who weren't around Damdred looks shady.

1) He has made a couple excuses for being absent/not trying. At one point his reasoning was the thread wasnt fun to read so he was going to sheep

2) promises that aren't kept/saying he is going to do work but not following through.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 18 2015 23:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm really busy today I'll try to be here for deadline going to go oj boxfred however.


Said he was going to be here for lynch but wasnt

On June 20 2015 03:56 Damdred wrote:
Ok, I'm sure #2 has been talked to death at this point

...anything else or who's filter I should focus on specifically while I attempt to make a dent

On June 20 2015 04:09 Damdred wrote:
Lol no worries.
So going to read mugs filter etc


Asks which filters to read, says he is going to read mine. Never comments on any


3) Makes virtually no effort to get his #1 scum read lynched day1 then just votes BF without ever really mentioning him at all.

On June 18 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
I actually think Fiede is mafia here guys and is a really good vote today.

If you look at his filter and compare it to HG which just finished a lot of the things he talks about in that game are really fluid and confrontational at parts trying to figure out the truth on players or get his view points into the thread. Also when he doesn't like what players are doing he is going to get into their face.

Look at what hes doing here, hes really not trying to rock the boat overall. He is trying to pocket/buddy up to people and is being noncommittal and not really following much up at this point or talking about anything worth while.

I'm pretty sure this guy is mafia.


Starts with this, asks a couple people about it but then just completely gives up.

Later on he now says he wont lynch fidei no matter what wtf?

Seriously read Damdred's filter, he mentions boxer twice and never gives his read on him at all then votes him, promises to be back for deadline and never shows back up. And now his read on fidei (his only scum read btw) has done a complete 180. He put a good effort in day1 and is now totally coasting that nobody is suspicious of him.

Damdred why did your read flip on fidei, who do you think is scum? I want to hear something besides another excuse for not reading the thread.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 08:44 GMT
#2997
I still like yam better as a lynch but damdred my #2 right now
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 08:50 GMT
#2999
What do you think about damdred?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 08:53 GMT
#3000
Also gb what do you think about rsoul voting you now when she has said the entire game that you are town?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 08:59 GMT
#3004
I saw you ask why Rsoul is voting you but that is it. You also yelled at HF for not being able to see my perspective for why I wouldn't vote you but didn't do the same for rsoul. Why?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 09:01 GMT
#3006
Like what I am asking is, do you find it suspicious that rsoul is voting you now. You ask why but you don't say anything about what you think the motivation is behind it.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 09:10 GMT
#3010
Nah I am going to bed, doesn't look like anyone else is around.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 20:45 GMT
#3131
@HF I asked you/bugs opinions on bf to see if they matched up with mine and so if bf flipped mafia there would be a hard association between you.

On June 22 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
just as an fyi, if i'm scumreading the TWO of you, him not pushing you doesn't really carry that much weight with me xP can't imagine why xP

this also happened AFTER the lynch


I am not trying to convince you that gb is town, I am telling why I am more inclined to think gb is town. I am not going to guarantee that gb is town but from my viewpoint that is how it looks. To me it looks like gb is actually trying to solve the game and figure out people's alignments. When I look at damdred/yam I dont see the same thing.

What I find weird is that you seemed 100% sure I was mafia, you are willing to obviously put a lot of time into mafia but you didn't even read my 1 filter from a game that just ended? This really makes me question whether you actually care about finding mafia or whether you are just pushing an agenda.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 22 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 03:39 Lohengramm wrote:
On June 22 2015 03:35 rsoultin wrote:
On June 22 2015 03:27 Lohengramm wrote:
I think tina is town

excellent


what do you think about my saying you could be scum based on meta, yama? even knowing your comp problems are probably true xP

I wouldn't necessarily blame you

but there are reasons to read me town as well, so meh.


which are? beyond you voting for my scumread which, i admit, does go in your favor enough to make the first failure to vote null if he flips scum



Yam you want to answer this? What exactly makes you town?

Seriously lets lynch yam. His play looks exactly like his last mafia game where he didn't give a fuck. His last 3 town games he tried harder in all of them and actually tried to figure out who the mafia were. Here he doesnt care at all.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 20:46 GMT
#3135
On June 22 2015 05:43 Damdred wrote:
This is frustrating all my connections are back working and nobody is here to talk to.

GB is more than likely never scum in this scenario. If he is totally changed his meta and deserves a big pat on the back.

However Mig, asks questions that lead no where. Writes a good bit about certain things but doesn't really go along with it, wastes vote without pushing anything today. Is pretty inactive (pot meet kettle) is totally on the side line not getting involved.

Conclussions are rather lacking and following some of thread sentiment.


How am I totally on the side line not getting involved? I was actually here at the last eod (unlike you) and was one of the final votes.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 20:47 GMT
#3136
On June 22 2015 05:46 Damdred wrote:
That's pretty uncanny soon as I call mig out on not following up etc., post about following up.

IDK what to think about that, I just have to chuckle.


I just got here, do you think I wrote that entire post in the 2 minutes since you wrote yours?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 20:48 GMT
#3137
On June 22 2015 05:45 Damdred wrote:
Yamato is a difficult case, his activity is a bit concerning but some of his posts and reads feel genuine and seem to have a real flow and thought pattern to them.

I wouldn't fight super hard against his lynch, but I think i'd rather a mig lynch.


How do his reads feel genuine lol. This is such bullshit soft defense.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 20:52 GMT
#3142
I am going to be defensive if I feel like someone is smearing me.

Damdred why did your read on fidei flip?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 21:02 GMT
#3150
So your strongest (and only scum read) was completely flipped solely because rsoul (whose alignment you shouldnt even know) soft defended him and might have implied they were masons? Seems plausible....

Anyway tho I would still lynch yam. When asked by rsoul why he was town he ignores it. Now he is afk again.

HF/rsoul are you guys actually more confident that gb is mafia than Yam? Look at his recent mafia games and town games. The difference in effort is huge.

The excuse about well he had to replace in so he wont try is bullshit. He knew he was replacing into a huge game, why would he instantly be unmotivated.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 21:06 GMT
#3155
On June 22 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote:

i don't meta players i don't know, especially off one game, especially when it's not a meta-point i'm scumreading them for

you don't like it, deal with it


So basically you are saying yea here is extra information I could have but I choose to ignore it. This entire line feels like an excuse not to actually look for scum or poor play at best.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 21:11 GMT
#3159
On June 22 2015 06:08 rsoultin wrote:
what exactly do you expect me to find in this other game, hm?


I am basically running off the idea that you aren't actually trying to figure out my alignment. The complete tunnel on how my vote switch to bf HAD to be mafia, without even considering the possibility of a townie view point. You don't ask me any questions. You don't read my past game. To me it doesn't look like you care whether I am scum or not, you just want to lynch me.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 21 2015 21:13 GMT
#3163
rsoul are you more confident that Gb is mafia than yam? You don't have a problem with him ignoring your question and disappearing again? Does any of his play look like a townie yam.
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