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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:03 GMT
#1806
if we are not lynching gb today i am going to have a major fit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:08 GMT
#1810
On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.

any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?


ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide

especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:16 GMT
#1824
On June 19 2015 05:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
##unvote
##vote Glowingbear


Answer my points.


I think hf and wbg did a good job of that already


I'm not reading WBG because I think he is mafia or stupid

I've answered those shitty answers from Holyflare


no you didn't, you asked me specific questions which i definitely gave great answers to and you retorted with them with things completely irrelevant to the original question

it's also fucking easy to just ask loaded questions like you're trying to do

i've summarised your whole play this game and i don't think a town gb would be so mediocre the entire game, you had absolutely no passion about anything at all other than consolidating on lurkers, your only push was on breshke 40 hours into the day and it was so mediocre and kelsier quashed that very very easily so now there are 0 things that you say that have any relevance in this game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:20 GMT
#1831
like in no sane world can i wrap my head around someone scum reading someone and then getting proven wrong by like 5 different people and still keeping the same read
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:21 GMT
#1834
On June 19 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote:
tldr anyone? otherwise starting at page 77 @.@


tldr gb mafia, bugs very very likely town, i'm amazing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:23 GMT
#1838
On June 19 2015 05:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
like in no sane world can i wrap my head around someone scum reading someone and then getting proven wrong by like 5 different people and still keeping the same read


What are you talking about?


you threw all this meta about bugs and it got proven that you misrepresented it and you still stick to the same read of bugs being mafia because of the meta and his "unnatural push" which doesn't really feel unnatural at all

same with breshke case
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:27 GMT
#1848
always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person

lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia

you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:31 GMT
#1858
On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE

off a terrible case xP

as town

lol ><


*NB I WASN'T A LURKER LYNCH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:32 GMT
#1861
On June 19 2015 05:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person

lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia

you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch


You think there are no scummy lurkers in the game?

What happened to the boxer read?


On June 19 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.

any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?


ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide

especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:33 GMT
#1863
On June 19 2015 05:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE

off a terrible case xP

as town

lol ><


*NB I WASN'T A LURKER LYNCH


She is talking about the caps lock thing

STOP PLAYING STUPID WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU


No but your defence THIS game was that you ALWAYS want to vote on lurker lynches as town whereas that's not particularly the case. If you get intrigued about something you always push them with hell bent vigour. You have not done that in the slightest this game and instead just went for the lurkers until you were forced into a corner and have scum read 2 people that you don't even really care about lynching based on pretty weak reasons.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:35 GMT
#1865
On June 19 2015 05:32 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.

So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town.


so literally your only reason for wanting to keep GB alive is because there's potentially a better, lurkier player out there?

Why don't you read the case on GB instead of using things that are not alignment indicative to get yourself off an actually good lynch?

Also it's rather ironic coming from you that we should lynch into the lurkers. I would place you near the top of a lurk list if I had to make one.


That's a fair point, but let me put it to you like this. I work 12 hour days a lot of the time. Sure, I can mostly keep up with the thread. But when it's back and forth nonstop, mostly with partially thought through arguments, BM, off-topic chitchat and otherwise, how are people like me supposed to get an edge in. I made four substantive posts last night on four different people and I don't think I got a single comment on them, really, except one from Brez. When I look at your back and forth with GB, I feel like I basically have to go back to the start of the game to understand where it truly came from, which is 90 pages worth of mostly trash.


What you did yesterday was good. In the event that people start to question your alignment they'll see you've put in work and eventually get to discuss it. It's just the way these large games go. Just because you have a preference for thread policing and less conversational style does not mean everyone else has the exact same preference. I for one cannot stand walls of text cases that I end up zoning out of and long paragraphs of posts because it makes it much harder to read peoples overall intent in the long run.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 20:46 GMT
#1884
I don't feel nearly as good about bf as i do gb

On June 19 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.

any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?


ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide

especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:02 GMT
#1902
On June 19 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
I don't feel nearly as good about bf as i do gb

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.

any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?


ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide

especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever





dunno how many times i have to requote this before i get people to unvote bf
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:03 GMT
#1904
On June 19 2015 06:02 Onegu wrote:
Man Im gone 2 hours and there is like 13 pages I am behind....

Not lynching GB


either vote gb or go back to afking
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:06 GMT
#1913
onegu, shockey, yamato, ritoky and mig with the wasted votes and a lot of people completely ignoring what i write about bf

sweeeeet
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:07 GMT
#1917
On June 19 2015 06:04 Lohengramm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
I don't feel nearly as good about bf as i do gb

On June 19 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.

any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?


ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide

especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever





dunno how many times i have to requote this before i get people to unvote bf

Yeah but his posting there was quite different than his posting here.

Also, here he is coming back to the thread just before deadline to vote to save himself.

eehhhhhhhhh


hey that's exactly what i said earlier but bugs shut me down it's not exactly hard if he has promised to be more active tomorrow though and is complete shit though

gb has had 48 hours to play and has actually made posts and has multiple reasons to be mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:12 GMT
#1925
Mafia POV
1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me.
2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting?

That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points.


everyone is voting with this guy who has these reasons for voting bf

literally ignores everything and says it's because of his first post (the first point is something i already brought up and he said was shit and used it again anyway LOL)

this guy thinks bf is mafia


because of one post

bf

made

48 hours ago

plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:17 GMT
#1936
On June 19 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
onegu, shockey, yamato, ritoky and mig with the wasted votes and a lot of people completely ignoring what i write about bf

sweeeeet


even if you're right that it's more null than scum, hf, i'm not seeing how most of this makes gb scum
but i'm still parsing through it

hypocrisy doesn't make people scum
contradictions don't
misrepresentations don't (people misunderstand things or see things differently all the time)

you know what i'm saying?

i just need to skip ahead to the ls read i think that's where the real money here is :/


like wtf are you talking about, of course individually none of those things make someone mafia just like lurking on it's own doesn't make someone mafia and posting bad cases doesn't

gb has the perfect assimilation of multiple scummy traits

welcome to mafia!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:18 GMT
#1939
On June 19 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia POV
1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me.
2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting?

That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points.


everyone is voting with this guy who has these reasons for voting bf

literally ignores everything and says it's because of his first post (the first point is something i already brought up and he said was shit and used it again anyway LOL)

this guy thinks bf is mafia


because of one post

bf

made

48 hours ago

plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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HF you know I'm voting boxerfred because going against scummy lurkers and that my townreads doesn't want to vote Breshke

Stop being stupid


LOL NO THIS IS WHY YOU VOTED HIM TO BEGIN WITH DON'T PUSH THIS BULL SHIT NOW. HE'S STILL YOUR SCUM READ.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

HAH
HAH
HAH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 18 2015 21:28 GMT
#1956
like gb all your rebuttals were just

"that's arbitrary interpretation x1000" while also saying you gave reads on everyone but commenting that you didn't give reads on cases people made lol

and the question rebuttals weren't even replies involving the original questions
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