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On June 17 2015 09:35 Kickstart wrote:
Also if you look at the votes, not counting wave who actually took his vote off of sulfurus and onto me for a short time, I am the first vote onto sulfurus. So the idea that I bussed him for cred makes even less sense because I was the first one on him this day cycle and indeed the first one to say I was suspicious of him at the start of the game.
Yeah you don't know the concept of bussing.
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On June 17 2015 09:42 Kickstart wrote:
The fact that you are still so ride or die scum reading me is hilarious. But I'm done discussing this with you. Again you just lie about me or fail to understand the actual events of the game and me flaming you like I want to do isn't going to change that. I look town after this lynch, get over it. You look even more scum to me after this lynch, get over it.
What have I said that is a lie?
This is super important. Answer please. Politely if possible.
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On June 17 2015 09:48 Kickstart wrote:
Your lie is that I barely mention sulf. I mean from a perspective of me being afk and then having to defend myself forever sure. But from day 1 any time I mention my scum reads sulf was always mentioned by me. You saying I didn't push sulf as scummy is just a lie.
Go on, quote every post in which you mention sulf. It's less than 10.
That's pretty much barely.
I don't know why you are so angry that I'm 'misreading' you. That's life.
Damdred, so who is poe mafia and why didn't you play at all yesterday?
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On June 17 2015 11:42 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 17 2015 09:48 Kickstart wrote:
Your lie is that I barely mention sulf. I mean from a perspective of me being afk and then having to defend myself forever sure. But from day 1 any time I mention my scum reads sulf was always mentioned by me. You saying I didn't push sulf as scummy is just a lie. Go on, quote every post in which you mention sulf. It's less than 10. That's pretty much barely. I don't know why you are so angry that I'm 'misreading' you. That's life. Damdred, so who is poe mafia and why didn't you play at all yesterday? Less then 10 when at that point I had like what 25 posts? Your point is still nonsense. Misreading someone is normal, misrepresenting everything they do is different, and you misrepresent. Like I said the only consolation I have is that last time you did this to me you were scum and I think you are scum again, if you are town I don't know what to say aside from you are just way off base and wrong.
How am I misrepresenting when you cant even quote proof that I am talking shit?
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On June 17 2015 12:37 Damdred wrote:
If you would of read I did a little bit last night and leading up to the lynch like pushing against the Ks lynch and onto the godfather.
ty for not reading
On June 17 2015 04:16 Damdred wrote:
Ok so id lynch Sul instead that was a super mafia type post
On June 17 2015 04:17 Damdred wrote:
Look at what Sul said that town is super tunneled oj Ks. That implies that Ks is town. But then says I'll just vote Ks cause he's mafia.
the two sentiments don't make sense.
ok, you arent wrong, this is a little bit.
You barely mention sulf except every time you give a list of scummies.
It really feels like you are trying not to kill sulph but it ended up being that way so you just voted. Your whole day 2 is uncommital and waffley.
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On June 17 2015 13:21 Damdred wrote:
I don't get how its uncommited or waffly I gave a list I wanted to lynch from. I voted rox, saw sulf horrible post I called him on. Pushed against Ks lynch most of the day, was se one person to vote sulf when I could of pushed Ks over the edge.
so no you are wrong and misrepresenting
On June 16 2015 14:49 Damdred wrote:
I think the four id be most ok to hang today,
would be oats
rox
sulf
scott
that's in no particular order and its basically the same lynch as yours.
However I'd probably lynch rox, then decide between Scott and Sul another day however Scott feels vastly different than other games. He's really lurky and feels less inclined to give the same level of thoughts in used to and not interjecting himself.
your observation on oats is good.
kinda weird but that's where I'm at.
On June 17 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:
Yeah id be more up for a rox lynch here
On June 17 2015 03:04 Damdred wrote:
So here's the deal, I don't think Ks is going to flip scum. Its mostly a gut feeling and how dickish/non surviving he's playing atm.
I expect more but yeah think he will flip town
On June 17 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote:
Rhhh maybe your right and I just am misunderstanding what he's meaning.
anyway I dislike the post and it feels kinda weird him hopping on the wagon like this
On June 17 2015 04:39 Damdred wrote:
I'll consolidate on rux or Sul. I'd rather not lynch Ks today
On June 17 2015 05:00 Damdred wrote:
I thought rels was town though.
But that post just is weird to me anytime someone calls someone an easy mislynch or town for no reason bothers mr
pretty damn waffley.
On June 16 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Ks keeps promising activity only,comes back with,I'm town.
It looks bad and is bad
On June 16 2015 08:51 Damdred wrote:
Oats is just normally useless.
Anyway I'd be ok with lynching ks
what made you change your mind?
the next post is here
On June 17 2015 03:04 Damdred wrote:
So here's the deal, I don't think Ks is going to flip scum. Its mostly a gut feeling and how dickish/non surviving he's playing atm.
I expect more but yeah think he will flip town
So whats up man?
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Ok so I went and saw the context.
was se one person to vote sulf when I could of pushed Ks over the edge.
Your vote made it 3/4 rather than 2/5, like 3 hours before the lynch.
Thats hardly "pushing" over the edge. In fact, mafia does this all the time. They bus so they get cred and can say shit like what exactly you said .
The vote is not a reason to call you town, why do you think it is?
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ok i was talking about this post from rux.
On June 17 2015 09:30 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really don't understand why everyone thinks rels is scummy because sulph flipped scum, can someone either explain or quote some shit Here's my thoughts. People were voting on sulf day one. Trfel makes a case on rel. Sulf calls rels his best town read and sticks too it all game. End of story. I used to believe in the too obvious too be scum theory. I don't anymore.
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On June 17 2015 15:01 Damdred wrote:
Let me tell you. The #1 goal for me is to kill the godfather instead of town Ks.
Like your trying to scum read me and show I'm bussing when you are just going ham every so often and doing jack shit besides that.
Oh well
What are you talking about?
Maybe you didnt think the ks push was very strong, maybe you thought it would suspicous to continue pushing into his obvious townieness. I dont know.
The point is, you didnt really push sulph, you were waffely the whole day regarding rels and sulph and your vote wasnt very pivotal.
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Ive been on scumteams before where we are just like, "damn dude sorry you suck, we are gonna bus you and if you dont get lynched, great, you get lynched, at least we get cred".
Sulph was in that spot totally for the scumteam.
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On June 17 2015 15:10 Damdred wrote:
How was it rels or sulph when I only said rux or sulph most of the day? I only voted those two I believe.
I fought decently against a Ks wagon once I thought he was town.
ruls/rex same thing.
Yeah you did.
Are you saying you are town because you are correct or what?
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On June 17 2015 15:13 Damdred wrote:
Ehhh we can argue philosophy all you want, but with a town wagon up I think id rather want that one dead as acum
My point is basically you think that it would be too suspicious to push kickstart at that point of time.
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You tried, you called him mafia and scummy a few times but that kinda shriveled.
On June 17 2015 15:14 Damdred wrote:
Nope I've been wrong a good bit this game.
damn it, you didnt get caught by my trap.
Hey kickstart, if damdred is mafia, you arent.
Can you explain the smartest possible reads possible assuming Im town kickstart?
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On June 17 2015 15:48 Kickstart wrote:
You being town is a big if. I would probably think ruxxar still and rels are who I would look at most closely after you.
How did sulph flipping mafia make them mafia?
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rels, why is scott's case good?
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hey at least im not getting killed tonight.
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On June 17 2015 18:30 Rels wrote:It can be summarized in three points I think (scott correct me if I'm wrong): Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 05:25 Rels wrote:On June 17 2015 05:18 scott31337 wrote:Oatsmaster could be mafia Says he's VT in the first post (which is bad anyway, narrows down the blues) and then defends himself about his VT claim saying "Have you seen it done before?" (BTW, Onegu has done it before in XXX I believe) + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2015 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
Hi friends.
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
aaaaaaaaaaaaand I don't like Oats for now! (kidding, mostly)
##Vote: Oatsmaster
why would you do this. Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide: - don't claim your role
- find exactly 1 person who you think is mafia
- say why this 1 person is mafia
- do not form reads based on unflipped associations e.g. player X AND player Y could be mafia together because Z.
1. Im vt. 2. Bats is mafia. 3. Chezinu rule. ##vote Bats On June 13 2015 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 21:55 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you dont want to convince me or Trfel?
Ok bats, quote 5 posts you think will help town lynch mafia.
So that does not include fluff and defensive posts.
I am actively trying to convince you and would be delighted if Trfel joined in. Trfel at the very least is scuming me for recent things. You, noob, and rux just didn't like my opening. Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post. Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim? You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before? Switches his read on Bats fairly easily, doesn't mention the reason for switching to geript - bails + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleep.
Lynch geript.
Wants to go after Moosy now, even though he only mentions a joke post about him and nothing else + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's get moosy tmr On June 13 2015 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 01:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 13 2015 01:05 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 01:01 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 13 2015 00:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 12 2015 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.
##unvote
##vote moosygoosy So you're voting along with scum? Interesting. I thought what he said was pretty reasonable. If I were mafia I would have gone after moose's post. So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt? Dont like that at all. Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread. Geript too btw. I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop. I don't feel like there's anything I need to defend against. But yeah I do like the idea of basing reads off of what mafia should and shouldn't do. That's why I'm voting moosegoose. And what exactly did I do to show I'm Mafia? I admit my first post was dumb of me but that was because I'm generally more of a passive poster. Besides, if you want to go along with basing reads off of what Mafia should and shouldn't do, shouldn't YOU be thinking of geript right now? He makes a post about how Mafia should act, leaves the thread after being accused of Mafia, and then does nothing to defend himself. You didn't do anything. It's what your scum mates did, or rather didn't do (push you). LOL So you're not even assuming the same thing Geript apparently did? Geript at least seemed to assume Moosy was town shitposting at first which would make scum jump on for an easy mislynch, but you think he's scum and ALSO think scum would bus him right off the bat? That's fucking horrible. Dude, wtf would the Mafias do that for. Shouldn't they try and help each other? LOL this post. Oh man. I would feel so silly if moose is mafia. Throws out lynching me with no explanation - I and others ask about it but never replies - what happened to Moosy? + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I quite like lynching Scot. Meta reason for calling Damdred scum - still doesn't explain the reasoning on me + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum.
Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads.
Sulph / damdred mafia.
Scott also maybe. Goes back to Damdred without reason except for the above? + Show Spoiler +On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it.
What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good.
or damdred.
Oats asks a lot of questions without followup Follows the bandwagon of the thread until KS wants to be lynched Shit reasons for wanting to lynch me and Damdred Unsure what direction he wants to go if he's town Oats could be mafia. OK so your case basically is: 1. Oats is not commiting to reads or pushes.. 2. Oats talks a lot but doesn't analyse anything. 3. Oats switched without giving reasons. Mm. I would not lynched over kickstart. But I would lynched over ruxxar. The first two points are definitely true and describes you as someone active but not useful. I'm not sure the third point is that true. I think it's just the consequence of you not describing your thought process at all time. Anyway, I don't think scott's case makes you 100% mafia, but it brings good points.
What exactly is "not committing to reads or pushes?
Also, i have analysed a decent amount, but regardless, why is not analysing scummy?
Why is switching a lot scummy?
Anyone can answer these questions btw.
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On June 17 2015 20:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 20:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 17 2015 18:30 Rels wrote:It can be summarized in three points I think (scott correct me if I'm wrong): On June 17 2015 05:25 Rels wrote:On June 17 2015 05:18 scott31337 wrote:Oatsmaster could be mafia Says he's VT in the first post (which is bad anyway, narrows down the blues) and then defends himself about his VT claim saying "Have you seen it done before?" (BTW, Onegu has done it before in XXX I believe) + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2015 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
Hi friends.
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
aaaaaaaaaaaaand I don't like Oats for now! (kidding, mostly)
##Vote: Oatsmaster
why would you do this. Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide: - don't claim your role
- find exactly 1 person who you think is mafia
- say why this 1 person is mafia
- do not form reads based on unflipped associations e.g. player X AND player Y could be mafia together because Z.
1. Im vt. 2. Bats is mafia. 3. Chezinu rule. ##vote Bats On June 13 2015 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 21:55 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you dont want to convince me or Trfel?
Ok bats, quote 5 posts you think will help town lynch mafia.
So that does not include fluff and defensive posts.
I am actively trying to convince you and would be delighted if Trfel joined in. Trfel at the very least is scuming me for recent things. You, noob, and rux just didn't like my opening. Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post. Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim? You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before? Switches his read on Bats fairly easily, doesn't mention the reason for switching to geript - bails + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleep.
Lynch geript.
Wants to go after Moosy now, even though he only mentions a joke post about him and nothing else + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's get moosy tmr On June 13 2015 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 01:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 13 2015 01:05 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 01:01 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 13 2015 00:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 12 2015 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.
##unvote
##vote moosygoosy So you're voting along with scum? Interesting. I thought what he said was pretty reasonable. If I were mafia I would have gone after moose's post. So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt? Dont like that at all. Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread. Geript too btw. I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop. I don't feel like there's anything I need to defend against. But yeah I do like the idea of basing reads off of what mafia should and shouldn't do. That's why I'm voting moosegoose. And what exactly did I do to show I'm Mafia? I admit my first post was dumb of me but that was because I'm generally more of a passive poster. Besides, if you want to go along with basing reads off of what Mafia should and shouldn't do, shouldn't YOU be thinking of geript right now? He makes a post about how Mafia should act, leaves the thread after being accused of Mafia, and then does nothing to defend himself. You didn't do anything. It's what your scum mates did, or rather didn't do (push you). LOL So you're not even assuming the same thing Geript apparently did? Geript at least seemed to assume Moosy was town shitposting at first which would make scum jump on for an easy mislynch, but you think he's scum and ALSO think scum would bus him right off the bat? That's fucking horrible. Dude, wtf would the Mafias do that for. Shouldn't they try and help each other? LOL this post. Oh man. I would feel so silly if moose is mafia. Throws out lynching me with no explanation - I and others ask about it but never replies - what happened to Moosy? + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I quite like lynching Scot. Meta reason for calling Damdred scum - still doesn't explain the reasoning on me + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum.
Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads.
Sulph / damdred mafia.
Scott also maybe. Goes back to Damdred without reason except for the above? + Show Spoiler +On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it.
What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good.
or damdred.
Oats asks a lot of questions without followup Follows the bandwagon of the thread until KS wants to be lynched Shit reasons for wanting to lynch me and Damdred Unsure what direction he wants to go if he's town Oats could be mafia. OK so your case basically is: 1. Oats is not commiting to reads or pushes.. 2. Oats talks a lot but doesn't analyse anything. 3. Oats switched without giving reasons. Mm. I would not lynched over kickstart. But I would lynched over ruxxar. The first two points are definitely true and describes you as someone active but not useful. I'm not sure the third point is that true. I think it's just the consequence of you not describing your thought process at all time. Anyway, I don't think scott's case makes you 100% mafia, but it brings good points. What exactly is "not committing to reads or pushes? Also, i have analysed a decent amount, but regardless, why is not analysing scummy? Why is switching a lot scummy? Anyone can answer these questions btw. Hey I'll let him defend his case himself. "Not committing" and "switching a lot" can be scum indicators. I don't want nor have the time to analyse cases or people now. The main things I want to do is look through Sulfu's filters and through the votes. So I'll stop arguing about cases and people behaviour until day 3.
Why are those scum indicators??
Also what in the world do you mean by committing??
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On June 17 2015 21:03 Rels wrote:
They're not 100% scum indicators. They can be scum indicators. A mafia often tries to be active without contributing. So if someone is active and is not contributive, there is a chance he's mafia.
Not committing means being active but not doing cases or explaining their opinions.
Now Oats, I don't want to spend more time doing this. So if you want to ask a question like "why not doing cases is scummy", please don't.
Actually I have a question. Do you find scott's case on you bad ? Or just wrong ? If bad, can you explain why.
I already explained why its bad when he asked me.
But basically its a bunch of observations. None of it is actually saying why im mafia because of the things ive done, just the things ive done.
And its a very generic basic list of "bad" things that people do.
Actually, both town and scum do those things. Scott never explained why me doing it is scummy.
So scotts case is bad.
And hes mafia.
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Thats what I did the last scumgame I played.
Somehow the bussed dude survived like 2 lynches.
It was hilarious.
anyway I dont think rels is mafia, hes posting decent stuff.
if anyone, its ruxxar for saying that his argument is good when its wrong LoL.
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