Yeah I don't agree with everything in noobs large post but I tend to agree that the most likely scum trio to me atm is sulf, ruxx, rels. And if one of them flips red it makes the other 2 look even scummier.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 14 2015 22:35 GMT

#1048

Maybe me being suspicious of all of them early day 1 will buy me some town cred???? I need some after being afk so long.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 14 2015 22:47 GMT

#1052

On June 15 2015 07:45 ruXxar wrote:

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I'm sorry, why would you vote me out when I agree they are scum?

Bussing is a known thing friend. That is why you are last in the line.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 00:18 GMT

#1067

Cop check on me is only useful in confirming im town. I am not mafia nor is anyone really suspicious of me of being mafia from what I can tell, aside from being somewhat concerned over my afkness, cop should check someone that they think will turn up red. You are awfully concerned with what blue roles we have and what they do and you are quite wrong in what actions they should be taking. Let the blue roles play their roles and stop trying to direct them into bad plays or outing themselves.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 02:18 GMT

#1106

Of course me coming back after being afk looks bad, good job pointing out the obvious. Would you prefer I stayed afk? I don't need to make excuses cause it comes down to real life stuff which isn't anyone's business. Deal with it or don't. Me apologizing is because I don't think it is fair to everyone that I was afk when I am normally much more active. I should just ignore people commenting on me coming back but it annoyed me.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 02:21 GMT

#1107

Also Oats trying to make an association between me and sulf makes no sense.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 02:58 GMT

#1111

Being afk doesn't make someone scum.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 23:07 GMT

#1290

Ill be a misslynch guys, if you are that concerned wait for a cop check or something. Should just lynch sulfurus like you were supposed to day 1.

##Unvote
##Vote Sulfuras

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 23:11 GMT

#1294

Eh didnt look at role possibilities. There are still better lynches than me regardless.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 23:16 GMT

#1298

I am playing, my vote is on scum.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 15 2015 23:16 GMT

#1299

More than you are able to say.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 02:08 GMT

#1347

People are just desperate to get a lynch on me, to the point they are making stuff up. I never promised anything, people saying I did is a lie. Don't listen to damdred either, he can't read me for anything. Last game he lynched me as a blue role and everyone watching the game sad it was the most terrible lynch ever. This would be another one of those times. Yes my activity is down, but no one has anything to paint me as scum other then them not liking my level of activity this game.

The people who are extremely interested in starting this wagon on me are damdred and ruxxar it seems. Damdred I don't know how to read because he did this same retarded shit last game and was town so I don't know. Ruxxar has been scummy all game. Going through Ruxxars filter he is literally all over the place. From weird asoociated cases that make no sense, to saying sulfuras is scum to then saying if sulfuras flips red town can go ahead and lynch him next (first he is sure sulf is scum then few posts later he is sure he is town). It doesn't make any sense. Parts of his filter seem reasonable but then others he is just way out there. Checked to see if there were any shenanis from him around the grept lynch but his vote is just as weird as anyone elses. He did a complete 180 on his bats read though but not sure that indicates much.

So while I think they are suspicious I think sulfurus is still the better lynch today as in my mind he is by far the scummiest.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 02:11 GMT

#1348

ebwop: should clarify that while ruxxar being all over the place is concerning, I think it could also be typical of a new town player trying to figure things out. So while some of his actions are suspect, I think sulfurus has been more scummy in that I dont get that same feeling from his posting.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 04:06 GMT

#1353

I said sorry once. Again you are just making stuff up in that regard. Only in your mind was last game an ok lynch and was I playing weird at all, your only qualm was my posts were too long.... But I don't want to argue with you about a prior game or about anything for that matter. For someone who likes to talk about what others do, you sure sit back and do nothing early on and get yourself into the the most ridiculous tunnels :rollseyes:.

Not discussing this nonsense further it is a waste of time.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 04:11 GMT

#1354

And why is oats just ok with hoping on every fucking wagon there is. From his first 5 posts all he does is "Can we please just kill _________"?

Why are you not at all concerned about who the lynch targets are and just pile on whatever wagon there happens to be.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 05:37 GMT

#1357

I tend to agree with your reads. Ive been suspicious of ruxx and sulf from the start and theyve not done much to change that. Like I said ruxxars posting is a bit odd so I'm not entirely sure but I would say they are my strongest scum reads. I think Oats play has been suspicious for reasons I pointed out already. I pointed it now but I also pointed it out way early in Day1 because he was doing it then too. Kept asking everyone "Can we just lynch _______?" which I think is weird because it seems like he has had no concern over who the vote is on, ever. Rels was scummy but then he wrote a dissertation so he seems alright for now. Of the veterans I would only be willing to lynch Oats probably, I think we got at least 2 scum in the new players :D. After sulfurus then ruxxar I would have to look at scotts and moosy's filters. Off the top of my head I am more suspicious of scott but that is probably just because he has scum read me and moosy hasnt so I probably need to take a closer look at them both to see how they stand on reads apart from me.

That said it's late and I'm going to sleep~

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 16:47 GMT

#1389

Case on me is awful and those pushing it look bad for it. Your case is that I was gone so I can back and went with thread sentiment because no one was on the lynches I thought were scum and that makes me scum? And then when that guy came in and posted a lot I took my vote off of him (like most others) and put it onto scum, which happens to be who I pegged as scum from early on? Yeah, nice case, not.
I proposed cop check if you were actually worried about me, but still your only points are that I was afk and then came back to the thread, which is fucking awful as it is in no way alignment indicative. I read through Rels 'case' on me as he asked where he says I promised something, I don't see it. Only thing I see is that I said I would look at sulfurus filter, and I did, and he is scummy.
Don't think this wagon warrants much of a defense as it is literally 'Kickstart was afk, came back and went with thread sentiment because he wasn't up to date'. Which is dumb. I have pushed who I thought were scummy, better yet my suspicions and scum reads have remained relatively similar now with perhaps Oats on my list too. This poor attempt at a wagon on me and Trfel and Rels has me concerned but I'll see what else they do as I don't want to omgus people to death.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 16:54 GMT

#1391

Now looked at Trfels case and it is ridiculous as well. Same point about being afk and coming back and going with sentiment. Fine, that I am guilty of. The idea what I've said nothing about ruxxar and sulfurus is ridiculous as I was the first to push them both and call them scummy day 1. I suggest you go re read it instead of making shit up about me never mentioning them. The cop check thing I'm not even serious about. I think this is a ridiculous lynch attempt on me, and I just proposed that if someone is cop and was truly concerned about me they could check me. Turns out that we could have a godfather so that doesn't even matter.
For anyone to propose that I am the optimal lynch today is in my mind an attempt to throw town off. First of all there are no strong scum reads or cases on me. The ones put forth all revovle around what I did once I came back from being afk for well over a day, if you can't see why someone would behave as I did after that then you aren't thinking clearly. There are targets much scummier than me.

Ask yourself what happens if I get lynched and flip green? You have waisted an entire cycle on a ridiculous lynch and you will have gotten absolutely no information. And you won't even have an easy time sorting out the town from the scum on my wagon because they both will pull the same bullshit the moment I flip 'Oh well guess he was town after all, too bad he shouldn't have afked". And that is where town will be, with nothing gained.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 16:56 GMT

#1392

what I just posted. anyone who doesn't see this as opportunistic is not thinking in my mind. this is an easy mislynch wagon for mafia, but the concern is as I just posted. When I flip green town gains literally no information because the first thing both town and scum will do is as I said "oh he was green should've tried harder/not been afk".

Got to get ready for an appointment be back in a few hours.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 16 2015 17:40 GMT

#1397

Alright then lynch me. When I flip green you can be in as useless a place as I said you would be. I ask you to consider what shape town is in if I flip green because I know the answer but it seems you either a) aren't considering it or b) don't care. Both of which are weird. Also I did give some reads earlier on who I thought was scummy and who I would lynch/not lynch. They may not be detailed or as in depth as you would usually expect from me but we've been over the reasons for that, you do what you wish with the information. Anyways really got to go now , just been getting ready. I expect to be back in under 2 hours or so.