EPT[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia
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On June 05 2015 14:36 Chezinu wrote: side effects from champion game.. I've been wounded with sanity. Is there sanity in the champion game? From what I heard from other participants, people are pretty bad and towns lose in those game. Some guy killed a bunch of townies and then got voted best townie or something like that. | ||
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On June 05 2015 14:39 boxerfred wrote: Hello, people  Sick case already, looking forward to the answers! Hello! Maybe you can provide an answer yourself? | ||
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On June 05 2015 14:36 Chezinu wrote: side effects from champion game.. I've been wounded with sanity. Thinking about it, this feels like sort of an excuse for something Chezinu shouldn't be apologizing for. I know it's jokey "wounded with sanity", but this is an excuse, this is a "sorry I'm acting differently but it's because of this and that". Chezinu usually don't really care what people think about him or how he posts, why is he suddenly making excuses? ##Vote Chezinu | ||
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On June 05 2015 15:03 justanothertownie wrote: If the case on mig is "meh" then this is a at best a giant load of crap. no | ||
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that's literally what you're saying | ||
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On June 05 2015 16:34 Mig wrote: How is being the first person to actually ask something I find to be relevant blending in? Especially when people are retarded and say things like "mig planning his night kills" "it is useless asking whether someone is good at town". I would be more likely to say nothing when everyone is bullshitting instead of actually attempting to create discussion if I were mafia. Eh, people are just trying to get the game startet. | ||
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On June 05 2015 17:04 Mig wrote: I don't really see how coming in and making nonsensical comments then disappearing is getting the game started. No, I figured. But that's kind of how games start these days. People fool around and the first one to say anything serious is scum (for now). I don't know, is it that different from the games you've played? | ||
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are you still good at reading me? there was a point where only you and marv had the balls and/or brains to accurately read me | ||
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On June 05 2015 19:03 justanothertownie wrote: We both know you will totally talk to me. Its not like I will just keep calling you scum. How do you know you're going to change your read on him? | ||
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On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote: Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me. Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER. why | ||
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On June 06 2015 07:55 NaCl`y wrote: @Everyone I do not believe there would simply be 2 protective roles in this game. I would like the input of others that have not said anything towards this, it would be appreciated. Are there likely to be 2 town protective roles? Could Artanis[Xp] be the mafia roleblocker fake claiming since they are notified and it would be a good cover for somebody that notoriously does not play as mafia? Until recently there couldn't be godfather, framer, miller, cop in same game but then suddenly there was a game with godfather, framer, miller, cop. So I'm not inclined to this setup speculation either. Honestly I haven't a clue what to make of these claims, I'm pretty horrible with claims. What I'm pretty certain of is that one of you claimers is a giant moron. | ||
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On June 06 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because he didn't know my alignment and it was already weird to him. For someone who does know alignments the options are much more limited. No he didn't know your alignment but obvious he thought "Would Artanis[Xp] do this as town" and "Would Artanis[Xp] do this as scum". He thought about you alignment and considered both, obviously. marvellosity is not the tunnely kind of guy now is he? | ||
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On June 06 2015 08:00 yamato77 wrote: Look, Artanis shouldn't have claimed when he did, but the crumb is quite obviously a crumb in hindsight If you don't think it's a crumb now, I don't know what to tell you i guess it's a crumb since he's hardclaiming it to be a crumb but i would never have guessed that lol | ||
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On June 06 2015 08:03 yamato77 wrote: it's not really about whether anyone perceived it to be a crumb or not in the first place it's about it obviously being something that was out of place in the given context, which was then claimed to be a crumb. kinda makes sense, no? Unless you believe mafia artanis is either: 1) fakeclaiming with an awful crumb or 2) covering his ass by making up a claim out of some odd sentence he posted I don't know, I wasn't convinced by marvellosity's initial argument that it was out of place. It sort of looked like that but Artanis[Xp]'s posts often look like that? Like NaCl´y, their posts look like they want to be a little smarter than they actually are and that sometimes look a little odd. I don't know what I think about Artanis[Xp]. A d1 hard claim to start discussion? I don't know lol. I need to think about this claim business. | ||
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Are people really that sure that there can't be two protectiveish roles in this game? I guess we have to deal with this at some point but reading both of them and ignoring the claim business I'm not reading any of them in any direction. | ||
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On June 06 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, tell me: 1) Why would scum NaCl counterclaim if they can shoot town artanis in the night? 2) How on earth does Artanis play make sense from a town pov? Do you think he is usually a pretty stupid guy? No but I just said, the narrative of him being town, having his crumb outed, being scum read by marvellosity (who will probably get his lynch d1) and then being all frustrated and martyring and hard claiming shit, that sort of fits. Do you think scum would have done all this if they could have avoided it? This is pretty extraordinary. | ||
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On June 06 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote: Actually this is all reminding me of the 2 jailkeeper setup from not-so-long ago. Let's talk about other stuff or figure out a way to confirm them via night actions or something. That just doesn't solve it. We can't wait for night actions to solve this. | ||
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On June 06 2015 09:03 prplhz wrote: has artanis never been mislynched? holy fuck artanis has never been mislynched | ||
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it's the exact opposite | ||
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On June 06 2015 09:12 Chezinu wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote FecalFeast Artanis[Xp] save yourself vote fecalfeast!!! eh what's this about? | ||
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On June 06 2015 10:57 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, and scum might have a roleblocker so it would not confirm anything. yea or he could just claim roleblocked | ||
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On June 06 2015 15:59 fuba wrote: Sorry, I was really out of it today. First, regarding the claims... I can't find a reason to really disbelieve NaCl's claim. Was at least leaning town on him before it (mostly because of the case that people seem to agree seems accurate, though I haven't had the time to look into mig's previous games myself). That being said, I can't really decide what to make of Artanis's claim. My instinct is to believe him, though that instinct has bitten me in the ass before. Like prplhz said, his story does have a consistency to it that leads me to believe he's telling the truth. The fact that prplhz's view suddenly seemed to flip on the subject makes me... uncomfortable. I think I'd prefer to lynch this guy. Gives reasons to see yamato as scummy>says yamato could be scummy>backs off on it>prefers no-lynch over guy he thinks could be scum. I mean, I understand wishy-washiness better than anyone, but he definitely seems to just be coasting by. Like... if he'd really given enough thought to preferring a no-lynch over a yamato lynch, why didn't he then switch his vote? He seems to just be saying things to say things, giving the appearance of participation, and disappearing. ##Vote boxerfred Gotta get some sleep, but I'll get up an hour or two early to read/talk. Sure, there's a town narrative that fits for Artanis[Xp] but not if you consider that he's Artanis[Xp]. Artanis[Xp] hasn't been lynched in like 15 town games. Survived or night killed every single one of them. Is that because he pulls shit like this as town? Or is it because his town is extremely solid and he can rely on just playing normally to not get lynched? How do you reconcile Artanis[Xp]'s meta of never getting lynched as town with his behavior this game? Do you think this is the behavior of someone who never gets lynched? | ||
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On June 06 2015 17:05 Mig wrote: prplhz if for some reason you didn't lynch artanis who would be your second option? why are you asking me that | ||
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On June 06 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: if it's gonna tell us mafia KP is 1, i think we can be told what that means in precise terms probably means mafia factional kp is 1? setup is closed so i doubt you'll get much more out of bugs anyway, OP says that questions should be PMd and questions in thread will be ignored | ||
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On June 07 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote: ##Unvote Yes, marv might be mafia. Gonna read you yamato bit now. what happened in those 30 minutes that made you go from 95% to unvote | ||
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On June 07 2015 04:15 justanothertownie wrote: So you missed that NaCl unclaimed? Am I supposed to believe this? so that's the only reason you went from 95% to unvote? the unclaim? | ||
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So your scum read on Artanis[Xp] is almost solely based on him being counterclaimed by NaCl`y. You do not believe there can be two protective roles in this game so one of them has to be scum and it's probably not the counter claimer. This is your reasoning. Then why do you On June 06 2015 09:13 justanothertownie wrote: Btw. concerning this: If there you are another blue - DO NOT CLAIM. We will lynch Artanis without the need for another claim. say that no one else should counter claim? It seems like you're either seriously considering that there could be more than one protective role, while also wanting to lynch Artanis[Xp] because you don't think there could be another blue? Also your reaction to NaCl`y's unclaim doesn't really fit with On June 06 2015 10:56 justanothertownie wrote: If NaCl ever rescinds his claim later he will be lynched though. If you counterclaimed as VT or something like this stop it immediately. | ||
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if you read your post you said "if you unclaim then you should be lynched" | ||
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i asked you why you went from 95% sure to unvoted and you said because the counterclaim was rescinded. so your scum read was based almost exclusively on the counterclaim. | ||
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On June 07 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote: You should read and try to understand the whole post before you accuse me of something stupid. it's 1 fucking sentence, there's no hidden meaning. "if you unclaim, you will be lynched". that is what you say. what the fuck? | ||
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Nope, correct conclusion. | ||
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On June 07 2015 04:56 justanothertownie wrote: I said "if you unclaim LATER you will be lynched" and then I say "if you are doing this as VT stop it immediately". Are you really unable to read? and then he proceeded to claim earlier or what? also, can you cut the dumb attitude you're sporting? it's not becoming and frankly sort of ridiculous. | ||
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On June 07 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote: You are being ridiculous and dumb and I will call what you are doing ridiculous and dumb if you keep it up. Understanding what I did is not exactly rocket science. I will some it up for you once again because you have such a hard time reading my posts: I scumread Artanis for two things: 1) His unbelievable claim/my doubts that he would do it as town. 2) The cc. Without the cc this is not enough to lynch him as potential JK. He could just have a terrible game. I said if NaCl unclaims LATER as in AFTER WE LYNCH ARTANIS he will get lynched and that he should unclaim immediately if he is VT. He did unclaim immediately so there is no problem. It is not hard to understand why there is a difference between unclaiming now and later, right? I said blues should not counterclaim because I was pretty certain that I could lynch Artanis without that. Where exactly is your problem with any of that? 95% to unvote. that's a pretty long distance. so your scum read on him was based almost solely on counterclaim, because the counterclaim rescind was what made you go from 95% to unvote. yes. how can you not understand that it's confusing that you type "later" but you don't mean "later" as in "later" but instead you mean something else? the "stop counterclaming immediately this game" doesn't even make sense because he already counterclaimed, he can't stop counterclaiming. only thing he can do is rescind. i don't know why you think that me reading your post the way you type it warrants some dumb attitude. i can totally see where artanis is coming from on that. | ||
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On June 07 2015 05:19 Mig wrote: Prplhz and jta if either of you are town smh Prplhz either vote for him or quit clogging up the thread fuck. can you please explain what is wrong with anything i've said about jta | ||
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On June 07 2015 05:25 Mig wrote: Prpl, it is 2 hours before lynch. I dont give a fuck if you are right or not, this isnt the time for it. Unless you wanted to push to lynch jta well maybe i'll want to after i've talked to him? seriously what is your problem, it's not like you're doing anything else. you're just sitting there going "pls guise". | ||
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On June 07 2015 05:25 Mig wrote: Prpl, it is 2 hours before lynch. I dont give a fuck if you are right or not, this isnt the time for it. Unless you wanted to push to lynch jta seriously how can any townie say "I don't give a fuck if you are right or not" | ||
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shoutout to nacl for at least making an honest attempt at not being an asshole. | ||
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On June 07 2015 05:33 NaCl`y wrote: Have you not read my big post that I made when I uncounterclaimed? yes i have | ||
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On June 07 2015 05:33 Fecalfeast wrote: read mig's filter please tell me what you think eh i'm not gonna read his filter right now. this lynch on you is tantamount to a lurker lynch. and why you and not other people who have been lurking, like fuba or slam? i don't know i didn't read heavily into it. | ||
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On June 08 2015 02:18 marvellosity wrote: I think these people are town: 1.marvellosity 2.justanothertownie 3. NaCl`y 4.prplhz 7. Alakaslam 13. Artanis[Xp] slam is kinda squeezy in betweeny, but i'd still be surprised if he were mafia. so anyone not in that list basically why is slam in this list | ||
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no i don't pretend to be able to read slam | ||
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@Half the Sky I guess you're sort of excused since you just replaced in so I'm just going to give you some leeway. However I don't remember a single post you made so maybe you could write a memorable one about why you're lynching Chezinu? @Chezinu What do you think about Mig? | ||
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jta is interesting to me because he hasn't done much today even though showing on d1 that he wanted to lead town. then everybody town read him and poof. would you lynch jta over chez today if you could have it your way? | ||
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On June 09 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote: you best do some stuff, you lazy shit @ jat huehue | ||
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this boxerfred thing, i sort of get the TMI argument but it's not strong enough. the guy is around and doing tons of shit while getting shat on. again, i totally see where the martyring/frustration after talking to jat comes from. artanis had it, i sort of had it, marv had it? now boxer has it. lynching someone for martyring after they have talked to jat who is a fucking asshole is just not sound. and i don't want to be in lylo with chez because then i know i'm just going to lynch him over anyone else (i know it's not lylo tomorrow). i don't like his posting after we started pushing him either. | ||
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On June 09 2015 19:44 justanothertownie wrote: At least I am not openly insulting people so I have that going for me. I also wasn't the only one interrogating boxerfred. And saying he is doing tons of shit - where on earth does that come from? Do you think his answers to me and marv made sense? If so - how? however, you do seem to be pissing everybody off. me? not so much. i guess i have that going on for me. i don't know if his answers made sense, but there was nothing in there i found scummy. | ||
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On June 09 2015 19:45 marvellosity wrote: this makes me sad because you are not reading what i am saying about boxerfred. sigh i saw you point on how he talked about chez. sometimes people make general observations for no particular reason. | ||
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On June 09 2015 19:10 marvellosity wrote: ##unvote ##vote: boxerfred so bored of your martyring just die seems to be the reason i thought you were voting him for martyring | ||
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On June 09 2015 20:00 marvellosity wrote: not really/quite but if you can't read/understand it i can't really be bothered to explain at this stage it's probably not that important or strong anyway seeing that you've just unvoted him. | ||
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anyway i'm leaving now will be back for deadline or maybe earlier. chez is sort of an alright lynch today and i'm glad d2 wasn't gonna be all that boring. | ||
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why be vague about being cop in his situation also, cops generally aren't informed about whether or not there are millers in the game | ||
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On June 10 2015 03:24 fuba wrote: Isn't there somewhere with a list of peoples' games and roles somewhere? I'm having trouble finding it =/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database | ||
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eh, i mean him saying "my cop check could be wrong". why say that if he really thinks marv is scum? | ||
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or there place where he said "i'm chezinu". one of those. | ||
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On June 10 2015 07:51 Chezinu wrote: To unclaim, one must claim. You've been lying quite a lot this game. okay didn't you just sort of claim and then claim that you didn't claim | ||
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On June 10 2015 07:52 NaCl`y wrote: Ok, whatever, let's continue lynching Chezinu for being obnoxious. honestly, this isn't a reason to lynch chez. | ||
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On June 10 2015 07:53 marvellosity wrote: because it's definitely the only reason he's given who? salty or chez? | ||
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On June 10 2015 07:56 marvellosity wrote: because i'm pretty sure i look pretty townie so no-one voting me has any reasons? lazy? | ||
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hmm what would marv do | ||
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On June 12 2015 23:13 NaCl`y wrote: I implore you to lybch Fuba since he was scummy all game and has not said a words for almost 48 hours. okay i'll look into him | ||
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he's sort of the only one i've really considered, then there are ff/you/hts. hts replace slam who i don't even attempt to read. marv had a good felling about him and hts has actually put in a lot of effort after she replaced in, looking pretty good. ff had some good arguments and he also called me town which is something scum rarely do (i'm sort of lynch bait as either alignment). you i had good feelings about as well but it was mostly the way jat pissed you off, a mind meldy thing. va is really hard to read as well. i'm sort of having second thoughts about jat though because this whole thing is not turning out the way i had hoped it would. i think i need to rethink everything. his d1 looked townie enough just on the activity side and how marv read him but marv was sort of lazy this game and even he can also be fooled sometimes. what worries me the most is how he's waited every day before voting, like he didn't commit to anything. at the same time he's trying to take credit for things that isn't him at all. like the fuba lynch wasn't him at all but he tried to make it sound like he had anything to do with it, you know? i don't know if this delusion of grandeur is fo realz or if he's just fucking around. nacl town though lol. just that d1 case on yam. | ||
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someone said that this game va can you guess who? | ||
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if you look at me and hts' interactions though, so many soft pokes that just don't go anywhere. and like mig said, i sort of stopped playing d1. i did put a lot more effort into d1 than i usually do as scum though, even fooled marv. | ||
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On June 16 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote: I was wrong on the 2nd blue role. It was tracker. Jat was tracker. I was panicking about a DT....I'm an idiot. Thankfully I played well enough JAT would have never tracked me >_< yes but what was his night actions | ||
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On June 16 2015 08:53 NaCl`y wrote: Well played. You have certainly improved Half the Sky. On June 16 2015 08:54 justanothertownie wrote: You promised a reveal. | ||
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On June 16 2015 09:21 justanothertownie wrote: lol He did NOT keep active. He was #1 mislynch for days and basically did jackshit until right before deadline today. Yes, yes I can demand more than that. he has 11 page filter and tons of text walls, he kept active and he had a lot of opinions on everything. boxerfred did enough that people should be able to read him town. | ||
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On June 16 2015 10:00 justanothertownie wrote: I generally do not tend to tunnel. And if you get mislynched - YOU are to blame. That's Palmar wisdom I completely agree with and I do not care if you disagree. pretty sure you misunderstood that then. it's your fault for getting mislynched and it's your fault for mislynching someone. it's always your own fault | ||
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prplhz
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On June 16 2015 10:04 justanothertownie wrote: No, I did not misunderstand that. The person who is mislynched is ALWAYS the one who is to blame the most. Sure, the voters are not free of guilt either but if you get mislynched day1 you are the worst player in the game. who cares who is the worst player in the game? the point of it isn't to place blame, the point is that you should always look at yourself to get better. | ||
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prplhz
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On June 16 2015 10:02 justanothertownie wrote: They can be townier if they know what not to do. Like martyring for example. how is not martyring townier than martyring? like, if you look at this game, a townie martyred (boxerfred) and no scum martyred. wouldn't that indicate that martyring is actually a townie thing to do? | ||
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prplhz
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On June 16 2015 10:08 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, I agree. And I never contested that in the slightest. Has nothing to do with what I said though. And now I am seriously gone. you just come across as someone who blames boxerfred a lot (and in very strong language) and not yourself that much. maybe you two just ended up pissing each other off. maybe leaving the game and cooling down is a good idea. gg go re. | ||
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prplhz
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On June 16 2015 10:10 justanothertownie wrote: That has nothing to do with what I said at all. I am not saying I am not at fault for mislynching the guy. you are 100% to blame for placing your vote on a town player who did everything he could to show you he was town. | ||
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