[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia

On June 05 2015 06:11 Kickstart wrote:
Would have signed up but seems im too late for that

On June 04 2015 05:55 Alakaslam wrote:
/in, tentatively. I will not be mod killed (indeed I refuse to be), therefore, give my spot if another player wants in when this is full.

On June 05 2015 08:45 VayneAuthority wrote:


This guy is mafia.

Notice how he tries to insert himself into the playful banter so as to fit into the crowd, but doesn't actually care to continue it or give a reasonable out. He simply drops his comment in and that's it to expand his filter and get townie points.

On top of that, his post has 3 As in it and I think he is trying to breadcrumb here that he is a triple A member, but that is impossible if we are to believe the average town member is of Onegu's stature, a poor farmer who probably doesn't even have a car. It doesn't add up.

Therefore, I state my conclusions to be appropriate.

On June 05 2015 08:50 Mig wrote:
Been awhile since I have played, is Marv still good? Anyone else known as a good townie that's playing? Yamamato still incredibly hard headed?

On June 05 2015 11:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Way to kill the thread with your scumhunting nerd

On June 05 2015 10:04 NaCl`y wrote:
@Mig

Your entrance is simply the most underwhelming so far.







It strikes me as someone that does not know what to post and you simply want to blend in asking useless questions. Questions such as "Who plays well as town?" are very evident as the game obviously progresses. I find it hard to believe that your alternate would be to dive people's last 5 games to find out. It is not wholly relevant to the game at all.

Furthermore, I find that over the course of your previous games you tend to open aggressively as town whereas you just try and fit in and make peace or ask pointless questions as mafia. If anyone else would like to see if this is true, take a look for yourself:

+ Show Spoiler [Mig] +

Excluding the PYP games, you almost always start with either a case, solid game logic or some kind of aggressive post. Your 2 mafia games in the aforementioned spoiler (most recent ones) you start off with a silly question to Kurumi or a mediocre afk excuse followed by a meek defence else.

I think you are mafia.

On June 05 2015 13:26 Chezinu wrote:
##vote: Mig

He is red. Look at that name.

On June 05 2015 13:35 Chezinu wrote:
suspect list:

Mig
fecalfeast

On June 05 2015 13:37 Chezinu wrote:


Keep it simple.

They aren't playful.

On June 05 2015 13:44 Chezinu wrote:
Should we lynch Fecalfeast first? Whatca think? Who would be better at night kills?

On June 05 2015 13:37 Chezinu wrote:

So, you want to be on this list too?

On June 05 2015 13:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
I haven't even read the case is it good?

On June 05 2015 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
I don't really care, sweetie. If you think I look like mafia because I have nothing to say about a few pages where nothing has happened except you arguing with Mig then your opinion is tripe anyway.

People who have something important to say at this stage only have something to say because they think the uninteresting things they have to say are interesting, which they are not.

tldr of the whole thing around Mig: meta-point looks valid but his play doesn't look like mafia in the thread. Ok so that's that.

Commented on boxerfred. That's that.

yamato/chez/slam/prplhz/whoever else has posted - is there really anything to say about it? Not really. Maybe Slam looks a little town?

tldr: you are bad and saying i look like mafia for not having insights of gold in a thread that's barely started is dumb.

On June 05 2015 20:40 boxerfred wrote:

No thought on you or fecal thus far

On yamato? Given that he lurks, only to make a vote on me, only to leave another short, lurky comment? Yeah could very well be. That's not too solid however. I tend to no-vote currently.

On June 06 2015 00:21 NaCl`y wrote:
@Mig



Many people say illogical things. I don't think it's relevant to ask that question since if someone says something illogical in this game you pry them for more information regardless of if they play well or not in general. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.

Ignoring our clearly differing opinions, however, you seems to just be asking people for their thoughts and this has happened repeatedly:

here


here


here


You mention several times that mafia like to do certain things like post jokes at the start and then just afk but then never really relate any of that to anyone in this game. Why is that?

On June 06 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote:

This smurf probably knows you.

On June 06 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
It might be geript again. Who knows.

On June 06 2015 00:34 marvellosity wrote:

Need moar posts.

On June 06 2015 00:44 marvellosity wrote:
Slam what makes you so easy to read these days?

On June 06 2015 00:47 marvellosity wrote:

so if I thought you could be mafia this game, what would you think about me?

On June 06 2015 01:07 boxerfred wrote:
ok im here for the evening now

On June 06 2015 03:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
like I have a bunch of filters open and nothing to say about them because they all suck.
The case on mig is meta from like 100 years ago -sucks
prplhz calling chez mafia for 'making excuses' even though he was directly asked why he was talking differently -sucks
VA talking about mafia QT in 50% of his posts this game -sucks
boxerfred's opener reads like he has a fake smile the entire time and he insults someone's filter less than 12 hours into the game -sucks


Everything sucks

On June 06 2015 03:59 yamato77 wrote:

You suck.

On June 06 2015 04:51 yamato77 wrote:
fecal is right tho, game is pretty boring

until BF does something that looks even remotely townie, I'm content sitting on the idea of lynching him,

you lazy fucks can do the scumhunting this game, I'm uninspired.

On June 06 2015 04:55 yamato77 wrote:
sure, slam, what do you want to bring to my attention?

On June 06 2015 04:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think this game needs some action, berating for people being bad and stuff like that.
I hardclaim jailkeeper.

On June 06 2015 04:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I counterclaim jailkeeper

On June 06 2015 05:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do you have an opinion of your own, Slam?

On June 06 2015 05:04 marvellosity wrote:

scummy.

On June 06 2015 05:09 marvellosity wrote:
how can you so violently misunderstand something in a thread so short?

On June 05 2015 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
the essence of my vote is that I think it is a very strange thing to say that he likes the case on Mig but he "wouldn't consider it a lock though".

I mean obviously it isn't a lock, it's simply a meta case based on a handful of posts at the start of the game. It can't possibly be a lock. I don't get why the sentence is there at all.

maybe it's nothing, but not a lot else sounds particularly townie either, so yea.

On June 06 2015 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It wasn't meant to be so obvious, was just meant to be a trail but marv had to go and put a fucking magnifying glass on it.
I figure mafia would figure it out by N1 anyway so mind as well get it out.

On June 06 2015 05:21 marvellosity wrote:

what the fuck?

On June 06 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:

HOW CAN YOU FAIL TO READ THE THREAD SO HARD

oh my god

you are so shit it's unbelievable

On June 06 2015 05:23 marvellosity wrote:
There is absolutely no way a town Artanis claims jailkeeper for no reason here.

None.

He is scum.

On June 06 2015 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
Slam, you are the hero this town needs.

On June 06 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:

that's so bad.

this is why i'm playing less and less.

i can't handle the sort of nonsense yamato + artanis are pulling this game.

i don't find it enjoyable.

it's too bad for me to find enjoyable

On June 06 2015 05:30 marvellosity wrote:
i just don't want to play anymore.

and this keeps happening in the first 24h of games i play this year. over and over.

then i go "oh, it can't be that bad"

then i join a game and someone claims with 1 vote on them
someone fails to read a 5 page long thread and misinterprets everything i say

i don't understand how this is possible with even remotely intelligent human beings.

i'm gonna go have a joint.

On June 06 2015 10:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Going to bed. Anyone who is even considering not lynching Artanis has to explain all this:

First of all you have to explain why NaCl is scum because there is no way there are 2 protective roles in a 10 vs 3 setup with 1 mafia KP and normal roles but EVEN IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU ON ITS OWN and you think for some reason it is possible to have a JK AND a doctor in the same game:

The situation is the following - you are Artanis a pretty good and experienced town player and you happened to role JK. Halfway into day1 nothing much happened so far and all of a sudden marvellosity who you townread and who you think is a really good player is attacking and voting you. You played a lot of games together. Do you either try to convince him that you are town/play the game or immediately feel the need to claim?
The answer is even if Artanis thinks he will potentially get lynched he will never claim his really powerful role without trying to avert the lynch otherwise before (and his stats show that he is really good at not being mislynched).

On the other hand if you are scum Artanis then you might think to yourself - "I will probably not be able to avoid being lynched" for whatever reason (maybe because town marvellosity set his sights on you). Artanis had some really weak scumgames. In THAT CASE claiming JK is pretty good. If noone counterclaims you will survive AT LEAST a day and be able to push an agenda. If you get counterclaimed you outed a really important role (if scum has a vigi getting rid of our protective role basically means they need one less mislynch for example) and in the worst case you just still get lynched. Maybe you even survive because people are idiots.

So town Artanis obviously did not claim because of being afraid. So why would he?
Artanis says he claimed because he thought he was outed by a dumb breadcrumb (which I think is HIGHLY unbelievable itself) he did which marv put emphasis on. So what do you do in this situation?
The answer is you never ever ever claim right away. What does town get from your outing? Nothing. If you think you absolutely need to claim for whatever reason you can still claim during the end of the night to avoid getting shot if scum happen to not know about you. By claiming you are destroying any chance of them not knowing for no real benefit.

If Artanis is town he acted incredibly stupid to a degree that is absolutely insane. I refuse to believe this and that he would not put any thought in how to play as one of towns most important and strong roles. The likelihood of him being mafia is much much higher. Add to this the claim by NaCl and we will absolutely lynch Artanis today.

On June 06 2015 09:44 marvellosity wrote:

mm, i dunno what to think about it right now. i'll sleep on it and think about it tomorrow

On June 06 2015 15:09 Chezinu wrote:


Why do you to me? Don't you know that there is only one that is worthy? Don't ya know the true ?

Like everbodies knows it

On June 07 2015 02:42 boxerfred wrote:
still gotta follow up on the last pages -.-

On June 04 2015 05:55 Alakaslam wrote:
/in, tentatively. I will not be mod killed (indeed I refuse to be), therefore, give my spot if another player wants in when this is full.

On June 07 2015 07:59 wherebugsgo wrote:

Day 1 Current Vote Count

yamato77: 8 Tentatively will be lynched
NaCl'y
fuba
prplhz
FecalFeast
boxerfred
Artanis[Xp]
justanothertownie
Mig

Fecalfeast: 1
Chezinu

Chezinu: 1
VayneAuthority

boxerfred: 1
yamato77

fuba: 1
Marvellosity

Not voting: 1
Alakaslam

If I missed anything or got something wrong, let me know.

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Day ends in

On June 07 2015 07:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
Not voting: 1
Alakaslam

On June 07 2015 08:58 boxerfred wrote:
well good night people, seeya tomorrow.

On June 07 2015 13:07 Chezinu wrote:
Fecalfeast and Mig next?

On June 07 2015 22:44 Chezinu wrote:

My themes.. I don't know what happened to them...

Town must fight to give Chez his themes back.

On June 16 2015 08:00 Mig wrote:
if it turns out we lose right here jat and you are town and boxer is town I am going to blame you and marv at least partially for driving boxer to insanity

On June 16 2015 08:07 Mig wrote:
I spent like 30 hours on this game and you sabotage it to screw jat and you dont even know for sure hes town?

On June 16 2015 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
well played to the mafia team, I had a series of notes on my home PC that I was keeping up to date until day 2 but I don't think any analysis would've helped beyond that. Also I cannot access these until about Monday next week since I am not at home.

I think it was actually really lucky of town to lynch yamato day 1, and I had concerns that scum would suffer by not taking advantage of the huge opportunities they had day 1 to control town. Had they done that I think it would've been a flawless victory without even yamato dying, but in the end they did not (IMO) really need to do much because town didn't really have a good direction from the get-go.

The Alakaslam replacement and the modkill(s) sucked but in the end town suffered from much more than the inactivity of just those players. Mafia thrive in such an environment without any real effort on their own and it really showed here.

I will be seeking a 1 game ban for each of the following 3 players:

Alakaslam
Fuba
FecalFeast

as per my rules. Alakaslam's case, while he got replaced, was very avoidable. He knew going into the game that he may not be able to complete the game and despite me being able to replace him I still think it is unacceptable to join a game and not commit to it as per the rules. He also failed to vote a second time day 1. Fuba was lynched but failed to vote, and FecalFeast also failed to vote.

If there are any concerns/questions please let me know.