Also btw for your point about not caring who got lynched. I was around right before yam was lynched and when people discussed the possibility of switching last minute I said yam was the better lynch. So read the timeline for that if you think I don't care at all about what I feel is the best lynch.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 01:08 GMT

#1865

Let me ask you this concerning fuba, do you think it is more likely for a mafia fuba to lurk and say nothing or to post questioning about chez when everyone in the thread is 100% set on lynching him? Why if he is mafia did he speak up at all? Just in the hopes people gave him town cred?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 01:30 GMT

#1869

No my point is fubas a lurker as mafia right? If someone's meta as mafia is to lurk then usually they look for the easy way out, which is to post nothing when they don't have to.

Yam isn't a lurker

Also again this post feels townie to me

On June 10 2015 00:21 fuba wrote:
Oh, and regarding the explanation for my BF read flipping:

In all honesty, the thing that swayed me most is that he just seemed genuine. That isn't typically an acceptable answer, so I tried to fluff it up with "reasoning" and such.

Just feels more open and not like hes carefully crafting his posts to try and avoid suspicion.

Anyway I could be wrong, neither of my points guarantee that fuba is town or anything but I think boxer is more likely to be mafia at this point.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 01:36 GMT

#1870

NAC do you think the scum team is fuba and boxer? If not who is the remaining mafia?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 01:39 GMT

#1873

Ok I might be totally off on Yam meta, that was my experience with him 1.5 years ago.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 01:47 GMT

#1874

What do you think about the part of boxers long post that I quoted, never considering the possibility that me and JAT could both be town?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 19:25 GMT

#1913

If fuba doesnt show up and vote I assume he will be mod killed?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 19:34 GMT

#1917

Most people feel that boxer and fuba are both good lynch candidates, with fuba slightly edging it. Why not take care of both if you have the chance? If fuba sneaks in a vote right before deadline so what? Unless the information that comes from fubas death changes what will happen tomorrow.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 19:38 GMT

#1920

Ok and what if fuba flips town.....

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 19:45 GMT

#1922

So why not take care of both of them now? If bf is town and fuba mafia doesnt change that you can still lynch me tomorrow except we do it faster so there is one less night kill opportunity for mafia.

The only risk is if fuba ninja votes right at the end and bf is town. But even then you can just lynch fuba tomorrow. And if bf reached Lylo is there anyone who wouldn't lynch him?

Anyway this is moot if fuba actually shows up. But if like 20 min before end of day he hasn't optimal play has to be to try and eliminate both of them.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 19:50 GMT

#1923

If you think at any point in this game you are going to need to lynch bf then it is better to do it now and avoid wasting a day and giving mafia another nk

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 19:53 GMT

#1925

It doesn't, my point is if fuba is going to be mod killed then bf should be lynched so both are taken care of

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 19:56 GMT

#1927

What I can tell you is, I am town so if fuba flips mafia and you mislynch me you are still going to have to take care of boxer. Unless someone else comes up who is a better candidate than boxer.

So it has to be worth the risk of lynching boxer if fuba hasn't shown up right before lynch. If he does show up and ninja vote who cares? You lynch him tomorrow and you would have lynched bf anyway eventually.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 20:03 GMT

#1929

Jat I am working with the information of knowing my alignment, I know I am not mafia which makes it more likely that fuba/boxer could both be mafia yes.

Or fuba could be town and bf mafia.

Just look at this logically. Mafia needs multiple mislynches where they can get nks. If town essentially has the chance to double lynch the 2 most suspicious people then they should take it. Unless there is a point when you think you guys will not lynch boxer.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 20:09 GMT

#1933

Will you listen to what I am saying tho, unless you think boxer wont get lynched at some point you are going to lynch him eventually no matter what. That means if he is town you will mislynch no matter what. Regardless of his alignment lynching him now saves a day and saves a night kill opportunity for mafia.

If you think me and fuba are both mafia then me getting boxer mislynched now doesn't help me. He is the person who would be most likely to be mislynched tomorrow giving me an extra nk.

The only reason not to lynch bf now is if you think another candidate will come up who is a better lynch than him in the future.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 20:13 GMT

#1940

Let me just spell out the scenarios here

1) both are mafia we win

2) fuba is mafia, according to JAT that means you lynch me next. But guess what I am town which means you will have to lynch somebody after me. Which will most likely end up being boxer. So why not lynch him now if that is the case?

3) fuba is town, then you take care of the guy who would be lynched tomorrow and save us from spending an entire cycle on him tomorrow.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 20:15 GMT

#1945

On June 13 2015 05:13 justanothertownie wrote:
If we lynch fuba and he flips mafia it is NOT certain that we will lynch bf. If we lynch boxerfred and he flips mafia and town fuba gets modkilled then we basically still have mislynched. I think the only world in which fuba does not return to ninjavote/post is where he is town.

If you think town fuba doesnt show up at all and gets mod killed then how is lynching him not still a mislynch?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 20:18 GMT

#1951

I am town, if fuba and bf are both town the game is pretty much over, sorry to break it to you folks.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 20:19 GMT

#1953

I think bf is more likely to be mafia than fuba and I am trying to get him lynched. Use some common sense

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 12 2015 20:23 GMT

#1959

At this point you guys just view everything I do as scummy apparently.

I have never claimed 100% you are mafia JAT I could be wrong. I think bf is more likely mafia than fuba. So why wouldn't I try to get him lynched? I cant control whether fuba doesn't come back and gets mod killed.