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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 21:29 GMT
#670
so concluding, my reads:

town:

JAT, NaCL

scum: yamato

null with scum tendency: artanis, fuba, marv

rest is null. gonna look into that JAT vs. prplhz discussion next, maybe I'll find something.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 21:38 GMT
#674
On June 07 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.

Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread.

Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process.

It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia.

The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand?

This is what I dislike the most about yamato. Even if we ignore that the crumb is not obvious to anyone else he just assumes that town Artanis felt pressured and claimed because of that. How on earth is it even possible to reach this conclusion with the way the claim went down when Artanis said something like "I am bored.... btw I am JK" to claim for example?
It looks like he knows that Artanis is town.

That's exactly the point I raised when I pointed to the "what a dumb play"-quotes of yamato.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 21:57 GMT
#678
On June 07 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 06:38 boxerfred wrote:
On June 07 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.

Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread.

Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process.

It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia.

The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand?

This is what I dislike the most about yamato. Even if we ignore that the crumb is not obvious to anyone else he just assumes that town Artanis felt pressured and claimed because of that. How on earth is it even possible to reach this conclusion with the way the claim went down when Artanis said something like "I am bored.... btw I am JK" to claim for example?
It looks like he knows that Artanis is town.

That's exactly the point I raised when I pointed to the "what a dumb play"-quotes of yamato.

Could you explain your other scumleans?

Not with quoted posts, no. Tomorrow I'll do that, but I'm way too tired to do this now.

My Artanis' scum read comes mainly from your post. I like the idea of "too experienced for a dumb move so that might be a scum claim". Fuba since he went at me when I started going on yamato. However he rather early went on Yamato, too, so that weakens my read. That's why I lean him null with a scum tendency and not scum.
Marv, because he got in that fight with yamato and that felt way over the top.

Was that sufficient?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:06 GMT
#680
On June 07 2015 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 06:57 boxerfred wrote:
On June 07 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 06:38 boxerfred wrote:
On June 07 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.

Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread.

Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process.

It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia.

The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand?

This is what I dislike the most about yamato. Even if we ignore that the crumb is not obvious to anyone else he just assumes that town Artanis felt pressured and claimed because of that. How on earth is it even possible to reach this conclusion with the way the claim went down when Artanis said something like "I am bored.... btw I am JK" to claim for example?
It looks like he knows that Artanis is town.

That's exactly the point I raised when I pointed to the "what a dumb play"-quotes of yamato.

Could you explain your other scumleans?

Not with quoted posts, no. Tomorrow I'll do that, but I'm way too tired to do this now.

My Artanis' scum read comes mainly from your post. I like the idea of "too experienced for a dumb move so that might be a scum claim". Fuba since he went at me when I started going on yamato. However he rather early went on Yamato, too, so that weakens my read. That's why I lean him null with a scum tendency and not scum.
Marv, because he got in that fight with yamato and that felt way over the top.

Was that sufficient?

meh... you base all your reads on association with yamato which is pretty dangerous.

Yeah true. Probably change my reads depending on this. However, don't we have EoD by now?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:06 GMT
#681
EBWOP: "this" means "depending on the flip" since he's gonna be lynched?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:16 GMT
#697
On June 07 2015 07:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 07:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm still here, always down for shenanigans

Onto which player?

boxerfred comes to mind

give it to me, my body is ready
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:18 GMT
#700
On June 07 2015 07:09 NaCl`y wrote:
I'm here, albeit sporadically. I feel uneasy about boxerfred. Very uneasy and I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's because he seems to have sheeped all of my reads and made it look like his own? I'm not quite sure.

It's also a bit disconcerting that all of the people suddenly popped up, voted yamato and then afk'd again.

I understand that. Saying "I put up my theory by reading through the thread one page by another" doesn't help I guess? My filter diving on yamato happened before I saw your post on him. I know that this is easy to say and hard to prove but that's how it is.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:19 GMT
#701
On June 07 2015 07:17 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i kinda retract my v light boxerfred meta read

i said it because he voted yamato casually right out the gate, whereas in his newbie game he was floundering away saying he didn't know who to vote.

but then he went back to vote no lynch here saying he had no idea again, so yeah, whatever

c'mon meta reads on me are just a bad idea, whether you try it for a town or a scum read. It's been one game, there's not too much meta to brag about.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:20 GMT
#703
On June 07 2015 07:09 NaCl`y wrote:
I'm here, albeit sporadically. I feel uneasy about boxerfred. Very uneasy and I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's because he seems to have sheeped all of my reads and made it look like his own? I'm not quite sure.

It's also a bit disconcerting that all of the people suddenly popped up, voted yamato and then afk'd again.

Does it help that I quoted the case that fuba made on me and also your post saying you have a scum read on me? Like why would I do that if I was scum?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:33 GMT
#723
On June 07 2015 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 07:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
salt boy makes a good point that BF came into thread and basically re-stated what salt said.

I had a perusal of BF's last game where he was scum, he follows thread direction like a puppy in that game. Though in that game he spent a lot of time defending himself day 1.

IDK, I was in the middle of reading his last game and his filter when nacl came in saying bf parroted him

Well, he has been following thread sentiment here too. But we have no town baseline to compare this to so... :/

well my general scum strategy is to pretend im town :/
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 22:55 GMT
#739
so let's see yo
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:06 GMT
#759
kaboom

I voted the guy first ppl, I voted the guy first

thank me later
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:18 GMT
#777
On June 07 2015 08:10 NaCl`y wrote:
I noticed in boxerfred's mafia game that he likes to bus team mates by the way so he's totally not off the chopping block either. A lot of effort in his post to say basically the same thing as me.

:D I thought exactly this. Hard to argue against that. You're starting a tunnel on me though, I'm town. I'm okay with a mislynch though this time, I'm not a blue role.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:20 GMT
#779
I still don't buy the marv vs. yamato stuff btw
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:22 GMT
#783
On June 07 2015 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 08:18 boxerfred wrote:
On June 07 2015 08:10 NaCl`y wrote:
I noticed in boxerfred's mafia game that he likes to bus team mates by the way so he's totally not off the chopping block either. A lot of effort in his post to say basically the same thing as me.

:D I thought exactly this. Hard to argue against that. You're starting a tunnel on me though, I'm town. I'm okay with a mislynch though this time, I'm not a blue role.

If you are town you basically just offered yourself to mafia as a mislynch candidate.

"Hey scum I probably wont fight a mislynch pushed on me, also I'm not blue so don't shoot me"

Or, I lied to protect my green or even red identity, eh?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:23 GMT
#785
EBWOP: blue or even red*
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:31 GMT
#786
Wow just went into Vayne's filter. Not even a whole page. Around EoN though, with two posts indicating that Yamato really did bad plays:

On June 07 2015 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
i am really surprised yamato plays like that as scum now too, he has sunk to new lows


On June 07 2015 08:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
i am really surprised yamato plays like that as scum now too, he has sunk to new lows

nah man, yamato always sucked as mafia.


i mean just the blatant anger and insults, so unnecessary as scum lol


Vayne, you seem to be bothered quite a lot with the death of yamato? Thought you wouldn't care too much:

On June 07 2015 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
i dont think yamato is mafia but dont mind if he dies. hes basically just IamRobik except he doesnt ever get warned for behavior somehow even though every post he makes is a personal insult



boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#787
On June 06 2015 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
i really dont see whats so unbelievable about jailkeeper/doctor tbh. if there is another blue then it is pretty ridiculous but just the 2 on their own is not a big deal. I would probably give mafia something like roleblocker/vig and call it a day.


Trying to derail townies into thinking about a unlikely setup?

On June 06 2015 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
i think mig is still a good lynch tbh, all this confirmed is that the guy is town and giving a genuine opinion on mig.


Weak read followed by a vote?

On June 06 2015 14:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote mig


More shady than slim, bro.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#788
So, here are my questions, Vayne:

1. Why didn't you think Yamato was mafia? There were quite some strong points raised
2. Why did you initially vote on Mig and then switch to Chenizu?
3. You were around EoN, why not say anything about Yamato?

On June 07 2015 08:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
i am really surprised yamato plays like that as scum now too, he has sunk to new lows

nah man, yamato always sucked as mafia.


i mean just the blatant anger and insults, so unnecessary as scum lol

This really makes me feel like your scum ally went over the top and you're really not content with the way things backfired.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 23:38 GMT
#789
Artanis, are you still claiming Jailor? Why did you hardclaim Jailor in the first place?
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