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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 00:04 GMT
#363
On June 09 2015 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 08:57 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 09 2015 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
How many games is "a lot", BM? Give me a number.

scumposting


ROFL

going to ignore you now. I would suggest everyone else do the same

scum^

batsnacks you really want to defend someone who is flailing this much??
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 00:12 GMT
#368
yeah ok no
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 00:12 GMT
#369
need more WBG votes
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 00:16 GMT
#371
see my previous post
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 00:19 GMT
#373
wtf are you talking about?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 00:33 GMT
#376
LS i know you think WBG is down but you HAVE to vote him
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 01:36 GMT
#390
WBG is scum

he is picking up shit with his bare hand and flinging it on both me and FF
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 02:27 GMT
#394
no point replacing out. will be lynching your slot because your slot = scum.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 02:29 GMT
#395
On June 09 2015 11:27 yamato77 wrote:
I mean, calling people bad is not a scum tell.

ad hominem is, as is misrepresentation, flailing, scumandeering/the way he is spotlighting this game, and my meta on him

he is much nicer as town, so while you may say "this is a policy lynch, BM", it isn't just a policy lynch

he is very likely scum
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 03:05 GMT
#401
If you look into the wording WBG is using it's as if "useful" to him is who will push forth his agenda

If you're not buddying him, and especially those who are voting him, are getting negative points from him/he's flinging shit/flailing at them

He is a part of a generation of players that were run off from here; he is a condescending player, especially as scum

this is his scum game 110%
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 03:06 GMT
#403
On June 09 2015 11:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Bugs I think activity will pick up soon don't rage quit like that and I also think your town :o

you're an idiot
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 03:06 GMT
#404
On June 09 2015 12:05 Breshke wrote:
To further the LS thing I believe he has trouble like posting in succession in the thread. This game he seems fine when he is being reactive like responding to questions from people but his own questions feel really forced and not going anywhere like he is posting stuff just to post stuff.

if you're saying LS = scum I could see it but I think he's misguided town
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 03:10 GMT
#406
his spreadsheet is what im referring to in the bolded. doesnt mean he's not scum tho
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 03:12 GMT
#407
On June 09 2015 12:08 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 12:05 Bill Murray wrote:
If you look into the wording WBG is using it's as if "useful" to him is who will push forth his agenda

If you're not buddying him, and especially those who are voting him, are getting negative points from him/he's flinging shit/flailing at them

He is a part of a generation of players that were run off from here; he is a condescending player, especially as scum

this is his scum game 110%


Could you give me an example of the bolded, I don't see it.

Also this is my point you say he is a condescending player so why is this scum condescending and not town condescending.

from my experience with WBG he tends to lurk a lot more as town, and will pop up to be helpful. He isn't condescending in the least. This is sheer flailing and something that I haven't seen from him before. He's saying I don't see how he acts as scum.. well him acting like a crybaby is new to me, so that must be his scum meta

my case on him is more deductive reasoning and seeing if something would stick than anything. Granted, a page ago, when he posted what he did, it has me kind of wanting to come off my vote... but the feeling that he is likely scum is just too much.

I don't want to let someone like this get away with this. He can act condescending all he wants, and say "when have you ever caught me as scum", but this guy never roles scum here for me to have a meta on.

TL;DR I know his town meta; and this isn't it
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 17:13 GMT
#476
shockey/LS consider voting WBG for self preservation

I'm not coming off my wagon. This guy is acting like a big baby. If he's not scum, I'm completely OK with this lynch merely on policy, to be honest
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 17:19 GMT
#477
On June 09 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 12:12 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 09 2015 12:08 Breshke wrote:
On June 09 2015 12:05 Bill Murray wrote:
If you look into the wording WBG is using it's as if "useful" to him is who will push forth his agenda

If you're not buddying him, and especially those who are voting him, are getting negative points from him/he's flinging shit/flailing at them

He is a part of a generation of players that were run off from here; he is a condescending player, especially as scum

this is his scum game 110%


Could you give me an example of the bolded, I don't see it.

Also this is my point you say he is a condescending player so why is this scum condescending and not town condescending.

from my experience with WBG he tends to lurk a lot more as town, and will pop up to be helpful. He isn't condescending in the least. This is sheer flailing and something that I haven't seen from him before. He's saying I don't see how he acts as scum.. well him acting like a crybaby is new to me, so that must be his scum meta

my case on him is more deductive reasoning and seeing if something would stick than anything. Granted, a page ago, when he posted what he did, it has me kind of wanting to come off my vote... but the feeling that he is likely scum is just too much.

I don't want to let someone like this get away with this. He can act condescending all he wants, and say "when have you ever caught me as scum", but this guy never roles scum here for me to have a meta on.

TL;DR I know his town meta; and this isn't it


Okay so what do you think about LS reading his past games and coming to the opposite conclusion to you? I get you said he is misguided town but I don't see why this hasn't been discussed between you two yet.

I actually agree with a lot of WBG reads and still don't reall see the problem with the wording but that isn't really something I pick up on. So if you want to handhold me through it that would be great.


then why arent you voting WBG?

My view on LS is from the last few games I've played with him. I've gotten to see him in numerous roles. I feel like he's new to reserve mafia.

On June 09 2015 13:42 Tubesock wrote:
##Vote: wherebugsgo

1. Chezinu rules. I worship the brown. LightningStrike basically same rule.
2. Flat wrong on the smurf issue and continues to bring it up. Town points to the person who understands the massive town advantage to having FreezingFoot be someone like townHolyflare. Bugs is NK1 hunting. Why would he ask who he should suck up to and who sucks?
3. Pretty often tunnelled towns help dig their own grave. If can't out him, easy mlynch.
4. After a couple people town Foot (sorry reading FF makes me think of Fecalfeast) he posts "oooh look I have 5 townreads! I'm just like YOU GUYS!"
5. Bill Mother Fucking Murray.

townposting

strongtown tubesock

take notes you guys

On June 09 2015 13:46 Tubesock wrote:
Also, I don't care who the smurf is.

There is another instance where smurfing is beneficial to this town. We tend to rely a lot on meta. So, what happens when someone's meta is do nothing town, but try hard mafia and they want to change that? Or a chance to see if they can.

Like, I'd lynch Onegu in an instant if he try harded.

what about the opposite?

On June 09 2015 13:58 The Shining wrote:
Well this is awkward. I thought this game started today, not yesterday. I've read pretty much everything, just want to dive filters now, since I started glazing over a lot during the whole smurf debate and feel like I could've missed stuff.

Overall, if WBG is seriously BMing("joining the lurkers) over his case being attacked and being scummed when he's been adamant and ad hominem/has been condescending is pretty inconsistent. Like you're calling players scum AND bad. Why can you dish the heat and not take it? I only have WBG as possible town because I don't think scum would continue rolling with that so hard and then continue pushing other things and conversation in the thread. And I've also had times I've BMd as town over activity levels and attacks but...I'm also not nearly as abrasive. I'm not 100% sure WBG is town but I think he's not the best lynch for today.

I never know how to read LS. I'm not sure I even want to bother trying this game. Every time I do, I just get scummed in return, regardless of whether I deduce he's scum or town lol. But for right now, I could lynch him. First page of filter is a few one liners, some wishy washy stuff and emoticons. And some of those one liners were questions he never followed up on or took anywhere(the questioning Stutters AND Shockey, two "lurkers"). But they haven't even been on to reply so it's NAI. I'll give him a very slight town lean for now for being willing to post past games and stepping it up once the game moved on from the smurf debate.

Don't lynch Yamato. That's pretty simple, right? I was worried that Terrorblade comment would be his only post but that big analysis post, although a bit hard on the eyes, looked pretty good. At worst, it's a good townie looking at WBG and LS objectively. At worst, it's scum misdirection in a HUGE post that can be revisited later, but I really don't think that's the case.

I think BM could flip scum here. He opens with voting me, presumably as pressure to get me to post, but he leaves it up for about an hour, if that. Seems like a really odd way to pressure vote and without posting to that point, I'm not sure what else I would've been voted for. Then he puts up a semi-serious? vote on Bats. Buddying WBG. Clearly says not unvoting. Next post? Unvotes. Votes WBG. Yes, he explains WHY he's voting and going after WBG but prior to that, there were 2 rather unexplained votes, including a clear indication that he wouldn't move. What changed? BM, explain? What are you reading bats as now?

FreezingFoot. Funny thing is, I found myself having the same thought regarding WBG's entrance. Trying hard to look town, asking who is "good", etc. I feel like it is a genuine reaction if I reacted the same way. But I've already explained that later things WBG did make it harder for me to believe he's scum. But I also like Freezing's later questioning of Shockey. 2nd time he posted something I was thinking while reading. And I subscribe to the "two D1 contributors going at each other hard are usually town" theory so I won't lynch FF or WBG today. Freezing town.

Onegu very slight scum lean for not claiming VT and then pointing it out himself. It's like he realized he broke his meta because he isn't town but he turned it into a joke to trivialize it. Note that in acknowledging he didn't claim VT, he proceeded to not claim VT. So he's not VT. Easiest read ever. The list post was a bit underwhelming, too, but since I took that word from his own filter, I can't judge it very much. Can't chalk him up to much more than a null right now.

Shockeyy. I can't say anything about him until he answers FreezingFoot's questions. But even those 2 posts were inconsistent. Policy lynch with a gut scum feeling.

Stutters doesn't do D1. But even as for as not doing D1, the level of activity for him is bad. He likes FF. Is going to try and post more. I could lynch if he doesn't at least try to get SOMETHING out before EoD.

Tubesock is town side of null. The entrance is ok but I'm parroting WBG's spreadsheet here. It could be nothing or it could be something but I also picked up on him knowing FF was a girl. But I don't remember seeing FF confirm that. But I have FF in my town pile so meh.

Bats I like for town. The few times I've played with him, he's been a bit sporadic but his questioning have clear trains of thought and I liked the picking up on Tube/FF female thing. It shows he's actively reading and has an interest in solving the game.

Breshke is slight town pile for now. He was willing to reassess his read and vote on FF but he did it in a well thought out and explained post, not just a "oh I got caught trying to jump on a wagon, let me backtrack" kind of manner. He's also actively questioning. Not a good lynch today.

Kickstart is town town town. General rule of thumb. Don't lynch the larger filters on D1, since you can come back to them instead of destroying all activity in the game and letting lurking scum win. Kickstart's early posts felt a bit odd but it seems he was just playing into the flavor and getting discussion going. Since then, he's been looking at everything in thread, from WBG - FF to Breshke's vote to commenting on everyone who has posted.

can you not use the term "bming" if youre going to use the acronym to talk about me?

also your read on me is shit

are you implying I don't RVS as town because that's utter bullshit
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 17:21 GMT
#479
so after reading through 22 id like to comment on one of the issues i keep seeing

i am indifferent towards the smurf thing. who cares who freezingfoot is. who cares if it's a guy or a girl. i'm going to call her her until i hear otherwise because i think it's rsoultin. does it matter? no. stop it, guys, for real.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 17:22 GMT
#480
On June 10 2015 02:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


wherebugsgo (3): Bill Murray, ShoCkeyy, Tubesock
LightningStrike (2): wherebugsgo, Yamato77, Onegu
Onegu (2): Breshke, Kickstart
ShoCkeyy (2): FreezingFoot, batsnacks

Not voted (3): The Shining, Stutters695, LightningStrike,

Currently, no one is set to be lynched!
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Remember to vote in thread, and cast withcraft votes via PM

Failure to vote in either category will result in a modkill.

that votecount has at least 1 error
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 17:23 GMT
#481
On June 09 2015 15:01 Kickstart wrote:
But Onegu admitted to being scum team.

where?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 09 2015 17:25 GMT
#482
I see a lot of you townreading me. Consider voting me for a nightaction because I am pristine when it comes to delivering.
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