[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 7

On June 10 2015 22:14 Fidei86 wrote:
BTW I want to call it here and now, I think the mafia team is Ticktock, Scott and VE.

One thing really struck me about the GGT wagon - it was basically entirely started by VE, but only after GGT had raised utter hell about Ticktock already. And that was on top of VE having previously had a mortal lock scum read on Chocolate. There was literally no reason not to continue to push for the Chocolate lynch, especially because plenty of other townies were crowing for him to be lynched as well (indeed, Shen continued to advocate it for a while). I don't see why VE would move off one of his "confirmed mafia" onto another, particularly as GGT was literally tunnel-visioned on Ticktock. I see no reason why a townie VE ships his vote from Chocolate to GGT, except to try and "bury" the Ticktock train that might have started to form.

I'm very happy to be talked down from this, but that's how I see things.

On June 11 2015 04:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Where's your vote going Damdred?

On June 11 2015 22:47 Onegu wrote:



Id prefer damdred but would lynch NHM

On June 11 2015 22:49 Onegu wrote:



NHM is onegu rule. Damdred has many more reasons.

On June 11 2015 23:45 Onegu wrote:



Pocketing

On June 12 2015 00:09 Damdred wrote:
Smh.

Oneg pushes me d1 wastes his vote to fo so, only talks about me during the night (or days in scum a lot)
First thing he does next day is vote not-damdred

Ehat do I do? I say that's scummy and vote him for a bit.

Then bs about omega rule starts coming up

On June 12 2015 02:04 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay so I misread your post. And maybe you misread mine? I wasn't calling you scum for leading on GGT, I was calling you scum because you abandoned your push on Chocolate to lead one on GGT, only after GGT started pushing on TT (who is also my top scum read). And also because I find it extremely disconcerting that you have said some version of "I'm town" basically every other post.

On June 12 2015 04:56 milo109 wrote:
From my point of view, VE/Damdred are almost confirmed scum after that town read.

On June 12 2015 04:50 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm actually down for lynching NHM just for that unbelievably shitty read. Everyone has me and milo as confirmed town. Onegu has done nothing alignment indicative at all. All game. I can understand TT as town - I don't agree with it but he at least appears to have been trying. But Scott hasn't. He's just piggybacked all game. I didn't have a read on NHM because he's essentially been a lurker, but I can't believe any town would have that read.

On June 12 2015 05:47 Tictock wrote:


So these 2 bolded lines here either make no sense or are completely unrelated to this game...
I've never played with Onegu before so I have no idea what his meta is like, but I'd have to assume he'd at least be trying to make sense as Mafia here so that there was as little chance of him getting lynched. So in my mind this makes hime town this game.

It is possibly scum just doesn't give a shit anymore this game, after all they just need to force one more mislynch and given how town has been going this game that is probably pretty easy...

@ Damdred
Care to expand on why you think those posts from VE make him town? I'm less angry with him now that he has at least shown up again, but I'm only seeing him defend himself atm which could be coming from either scum or town VE as far as I know.

I'm 100% digging through Scotts filter later today if both me and him survive the night. His posts last night felt strange and that like conditional voting post thing was rather odd as well. Can't tell if he was just frustrated last night and possibly a little drunk, or if he was just uncomfortable & flailing since Damdred started to suspect him as scum and was trying to pocket me...

On June 11 2015 22:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

Is this still based on the Onegu Rule thing? Or have you advanced your read?

I don't want to filter you, but if you say you said why already I'll go look.

On June 11 2015 22:54 VisceraEyes wrote:

Like this just feels to me like you're trying to dissuade me from voting NHM and to vote Damdred. Which is fine I guess, but I have bias against voting for Damdred because he's one of the only people who still thinks I'm town, plus his activity has been better than I expect from a mafia Damdred.

Uuuuuggghhhh.

On June 11 2015 22:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
You raise an interesting point about him switching his read on you opportunely if true, I'll have to go look at that.

On June 12 2015 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:

I need you to explain this read. Why is NHM mafia for not following the herd mentality with regard to you and milo? Appealing to majority is one of the worst kind of logical fallacies because in a game like mafia (where the "good guys" already outnumber the "bad guys") the majority are uninformed and can (and DO) make mistakes.