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Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 05 2015 21:05 GMT
#1021
Sigh. GG ritoky. Thanks for your help btw.

Got it Damdred.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2015 21:20 GMT
#1022
[image loading]


gg
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 05 2015 21:34 GMT
#1023
On June 06 2015 01:21 Damdred wrote:
NydusHerMain is scum I believe. Reading through his filter he gives little to no actual thoughts to the thread overall, he is a bit sideline for me hes never directly involved in any confrontation. He states people are scummy (ie., he says ritoky is scummy) but never really does anything with it, he throws the thought into the thread and just sort of morphs back into the aether to post again another day. He asks at one point if he is invisible, yes, yes he is probably one of the most invisible players in the game. He pushes very little and stays under the radar his read post that he posted during the night was pretty bad to me, his scum reads weren't fleshed out and lacked any depth and also the scum team he propposd just didn't make sense with us triple bussing each other when we had two town up for lynch? It just feels fake to me.


To give you some perspective, I come from video mafia (1+ year of it) and I've only ever played 1 other game of forum mafia. In video mafia, people tend not to push as hard on people unless they have some sort of meta read that makes someone almost confirmed mafia in their minds. Usually, people just chip in and give their thoughts on the game and don't really flesh out reads too hard unless asked to. Apparently, it feels like I've fallen into that hole and I'll try harder to get out of it.

With respect to the scum team, I didn't actually propose a "team" persay. I proposed people who I currently view as scummy and would be fine lynching. I don't believe in early associative reads until a mafia flips because it doesn't help to try to find an exact team of 3 unless we find out someone who is mafia. That's a weak thing to push on and you should know better than to call me fake for that -_-
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 05 2015 21:39 GMT
#1024
I guess with respect for the lack of interaction, I think it mostly stems from no one responding to me and no one really calling me scum (up until this point). Whenever I gave my reads (although I guess people just ignored them because they seemed unsubstantial?? someone clarify) no one really seemed to care or react. When I called people scum, no one really reacted. Kind of felt discouraging more than anything. Was I supposed to copy and paste until someone responded or I got modkilled?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 05 2015 21:44 GMT
#1025
Day one associations are bad because of lack of information and little content to go on.

We have information at this point that helps us narrow the field. Like Gg and tick can't be Scum together.

You also lack any form of cognitive reasoning why x or y is Scum. Even when asked you just said names without any reasoning.

So yea scummy
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 05 2015 22:11 GMT
#1026
So I wanted to finish my reads, but I'm finding it hard.

Onegu is just so... weird. I'm fine lynching him anytime. Can't read him.

Tictock is town. Same reason for my read on Fedei.

Scott is also probably town??? Weakest town read.

New Guy might be scum. Weakest scum read. I hated SL's play, and I'm getting a 'desperate attempt to turn things around' vibe.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 05 2015 22:13 GMT
#1027
On June 05 2015 14:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 14:31 milo109 wrote:
Nydus is a light town. I'm sorta getting a dimwit silly impression from him, and it seems hard to understand why mafia would want to fake that. I realllly don't like his last post though, so that bumped him down.


Can you elaborate the dimwit silly impression? wtf does that mean


The smily faces, and questions about posts that make it appear like you haven't read them.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 05 2015 22:36 GMT
#1028
I'm back for like 1 minute and I have to go back to work. While I'm gone, are we supposed to try to talk about why the nk landed on the person?
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 05 2015 22:49 GMT
#1029
On June 06 2015 07:36 NydusHerMain wrote:
I'm back for like 1 minute and I have to go back to work. While I'm gone, are we supposed to try to talk about why the nk landed on the person?


And I'm back.

No. Or at least not get carried away. I mean ritoky was pretty obvious town, you don't know if it's because he knew someone or just his gameplay he could probably figure out anyone. Whether he was on the right track, who knows.

Nightkill discussion is generally circular logic although maybe in later part of the game you can try and narrow it down I think.

The other thing is some people can get picked if somehow mafia reads them as blue (not sure how but apparently it happens) or if they try to avoid hitting the same person as a medic.

The medic-like role already died in this game so they probably didn't have that fear.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 05 2015 22:56 GMT
#1030
On June 06 2015 06:34 NydusHerMain wrote:
To give you some perspective, I come from video mafia (1+ year of it) and I've only ever played 1 other game of forum mafia. In video mafia, people tend not to push as hard on people unless they have some sort of meta read that makes someone almost confirmed mafia in their minds. Usually, people just chip in and give their thoughts on the game and don't really flesh out reads too hard unless asked to. Apparently, it feels like I've fallen into that hole and I'll try harder to get out of it.

With respect to the scum team, I didn't actually propose a "team" persay. I proposed people who I currently view as scummy and would be fine lynching. I don't believe in early associative reads until a mafia flips because it doesn't help to try to find an exact team of 3 unless we find out someone who is mafia. That's a weak thing to push on and you should know better than to call me fake for that -_-


So what is the "equivalent" of pushing in video mafia? As I stated before I have never played video mafia so I'm not familiar with the techniques that town uses to take out mafia. I read a few other games here and I think it was mentioned by one other vid mafia person that flips don't reveal alignment? Or some strange shit?

But I digress. Anyhow, I mean, if you suspect a new player's body language (I'm guessing) in video mafia how do you convince others that they are mafia? That's what I don't understand. You have to have some stake in wanting to take someone you feel is mafia out.

Because if you're not pushing here I'd be scumreading you as well just like I did Onegu. But your lack of experience can't make you unreadable. So if you play the game in a different way, how should we be reading you?
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 05 2015 23:00 GMT
#1031
On June 06 2015 07:11 milo109 wrote:
New Guy might be scum. Weakest scum read. I hated SL's play, and I'm getting a 'desperate attempt to turn things around' vibe.


You might want to try and read my filter a bit more closely.

On June 06 2015 03:58 Shendelzare wrote:
I'm back. Had to go to bed when I replaced in. Still on page 35.

[...]

I can't blame anyone for policy lynching me. sicklucker really didn't do shit and I'd scum his slot if I wasn't in it. But as town, I will do what I can to get some informative reads out there before you all decide to lynch me.


Don't think I'll be helping town any if I don't catch up and don't contribute. I'm assuming that's what you are interpreting as desperate, anyways.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 05 2015 23:20 GMT
#1032
On June 06 2015 07:11 milo109 wrote:
Onegu is just so... weird. I'm fine lynching him anytime. Can't read him.

New Guy might be scum. Weakest scum read. I hated SL's play, and I'm getting a 'desperate attempt to turn things around' vibe.


So are you lynching Onegu for policy (key words in bold) or because you think him being unreadable makes him scum?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#1033
He's outside of my town circle. I think if we're not going to go on any of those who I think have a higher chance of being scum, at least I don't think he's very townie.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 06 2015 00:32 GMT
#1034
Alright, first look at Templar. I look at filters from a few people from day 1...

First few posts aren't making a whole lot of sense. The gut read on sicklucker based on "morally" wanting to policy lynch Tictock, I don't know why that warrants a town read in any world.

On June 03 2015 09:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:24 Tictock wrote:
@ ritoky

Ok, I'll bite

##Vote ritoky


For spamming graphics and one liners. Not even trying to push people yet, such scum.


I also find the direction you chose to push here with as much haste as you did to be mafia-indicative trying to appear townie rather than actual town genuinely believing what he is saying.


Maybe I misunderstand, but I don't know what is there to "believe" about graphics and one-liners nor do I understand why town should believe what he's saying. I would think (at least in forum mafia) it should be the opposite. I would think town should approach things with skepticism. To me this looks pretty contrived.

I go through more of Templar's filter and his main two scumreads seem to be Tic and KS. He pushes KS for quite a bit, and then for some unclear reason after he rescinds a town read, he rescinds a scum read on KS before trying to get people on Tic. I can't tell in any sense what is making him read KS as town the second time around and if that's this Chezinu rule that makes even less sense to me because it sounds like such an arbitrary rule.

Who (or what) the fuck is Chezinu?

Templar doesn't have an opinion or seem to have an opinion on Chocolate and then says KS is town for whatever reason. Maybe double check when the votes on Chocolate fell but just looking at how the votes panned out his non-stance on Chocolate, even after he had the four votes could be him trying to avoid confrontation.

I just don't really like a lot of how he's posted and not taking a stance on Chocolate. I think he even said he wasn't interested in him. Or even discouraging people from voting a townread (and that townread got lynched) just makes him look scummy.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 06 2015 00:35 GMT
#1035
I also don't understand why he held his vote until 1 minute before the deadline. I just saw that.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 06 2015 00:37 GMT
#1036
Wait never mind. He voted Tic before and then later in the voting thread. Forget that.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 06 2015 00:38 GMT
#1037
Templar, do you have any stance on Chocolate or anyone else now? You seem hyperfocus on 1-2 people.

Tictock isn't the only mafia. That is what I mean.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 06 2015 00:40 GMT
#1038
And it's late over here...where the fuck is everyone?

Seems like there are a few US players, but thought they'd be around by now. Sigh.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 06 2015 01:33 GMT
#1039
Chezniu rule is what is about to apply to me. And we are going to us it to get our lynch today on Shendelzare. Basicly it means I play so randomly that who wants push my lynch is scum. Chez rule is first to call him scum. Onegu rule is people continuing to push his lynch.

##Vote Shendelzare

Milo would be a ok vote also. Willing to vote either.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 06 2015 01:52 GMT
#1040
On June 06 2015 10:33 Onegu wrote:
Chezniu rule is what is about to apply to me. And we are going to us it to get our lynch today on Shendelzare. Basicly it means I play so randomly that who wants push my lynch is scum. Chez rule is first to call him scum. Onegu rule is people continuing to push his lynch.

##Vote Shendelzare

Milo would be a ok vote also. Willing to vote either.


I... dont even... Trying to read that is hard enough, I'm not spending any thought making sense of it.

However, if Milo is no longer town yet Milo is still a type of chocolate where Onegu is from, then Chocolate is also not town.

Thus by Onegu logic Choco is scum.

Ok seriously now...
I'd like to lynch choco today like we should have done yesterday.

##Vote: Chocolate
I can take that responsibility.
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