I'll admit that I'm pretty heavily tunnelled on TT and Scott, but did anyone else feel like their last set of interactions sound like a guy talking to his sock puppet? TT makes a big post about why I'm null/newbie town, then Scott says I'm Mafia, then TT agrees with him, all the while they're directing questions only at each other, or mostly at each other.

If your main reason for thinking I'm Mafia is because of the EOD1 lynch vote, then surely that only makes sense if Chocolate is town. I honestly can't see why I, as a Mafia player, especially a new Mafia player, would come off one town wagon onto another town wagon, when I already had a perfectly acceptable policy lynch vote already. obviously my KS vote was disastrous, and I was the first to admit that. I've shown far more remorse than Damdred has for leading two town lynches.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 07:17 GMT

#1456

Bah, typing on phone - I should have said that my vote switch only makes sense if Chocolate is Mafia. And if that were the case, given you guys have been banging on about Chocolate, I don't see why you'd go for me first. And I don't think Chocolate is Mafia.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 07:41 GMT

#1458

@Onegu Honest question - if you were looking at your own posts objectively, what conclusion would you draw? Because the nagging feeling I get, particularly because I see you are running your own game elsewhere, is that you rolled mafia but perhaps didn't care that much, or had other things going on, or maybe just have played enough games that you're a bit jaded, and just thought "I'll keep trolling as hard as I can for as long as I can and see if they still won't lynch me". I know that you've stopped with the uber-troll now, but you're still only talking about this 'Onegu' rule, which I understand is a knock-off of the Chezinu rule? But it seems like a bunch of people in the thread already knew about that, which means that if they were scum, they wouldn't fall for it.

The issue I have with your entire approach to this game is that it's now too late for policy lynches. After the NK we're down to what, 6 town and 3 mafia? At some point - and you can see it already - the mafia team (if you aren't mafia) are going to start laying the ground work for a "lynch all lurkers" wagon, which townies, frustrated with all the MLs and the general sense of confusion in the thread, are going to jump on. Hell, I already feel like jumping on it now despite having literally just given my reasons for why it would be a bad idea.

So basically, all of the above is a plea - please, PLEASE, start taking this game more seriously and give us some actual reads and non-troll thoughts. Otherwise, if you're town, you're throwing the game. Obviously if you're actually mafia, then you're clearly one step ahead of the meta.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 07:57 GMT

#1460

Some of us did..

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 08:43 GMT

#1465

Why would scum kill someone who has been totally wrong thus far on pretty much everything?

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 08:57 GMT

#1468

@TT What do you think about VE? I've subconsciously linked Dam and VE together, since they seem to have been basically doing the same thing all game (leading lynches hyperbolically on D1, lurking on D2).

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 09:55 GMT

#1471

I've just had a quick read over VE's filter and I'll concede that I was wrong - he has not been lurking Day 2. However, he did spend basically all of Day 2 going after Templar. I'm all over the place on VE right now. I need to re-read Damdred's filter, because I have this nagging feeling that one of them is mafia, and I can't figure out which.

@TT I'll try and read Damdred's filter at lunch and come back with thoughts.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 10:55 GMT

#1475

I don't think I've been a lurker, but if I've given that impression then I apologise. Honestly, lurking is the best way to ruin a game, whether people are mafia or town (town because it makes it impossible to win, and mafia because it's no fun winning an easy game). I'll try and post more frequently.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 10:56 GMT

#1476

I should also say the reason why my posts come in fits is that I work long hours as a lawyer at my desk, so I can usually keep up with the thread, but finding long stretches of time to read, digest and make serious posts has been tricky. Not an excuse, I know..

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 13:42 GMT

#1477

Does anyone know when we are likely to find out about the NK? It's sort of pointless spending too much time pontificating until we do...

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 13:50 GMT

#1479

Ah. For some reason, I thought it happened during the day last time. I'm on a big case atm and the days and nights are sort of blurring a little.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 14:15 GMT

#1481

Shen I'll be finished work around 7 or 8 GMT. If you're in the Netherlands, you're what, an hour ahead of me? I know you said last time it was frustrating there was nobody on, so maybe we might be able to get somewhere if we're both on at the same time and bouncing ideas around etc?

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 14:31 GMT

#1483

I think most of them are US-based, but I'm in London.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 16:06 GMT

#1485

It was the same with Chocolate and KS for me. The town had already split two ways, so I figured that I was better voting for the person of the two that was more scummy, rather than throwing my vote away on someone who wasn't going to realistically get enough votes.

In the UK, we call it "tactical voting" - it happens all the time in our general elections due to our stupid electoral system.

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 16:57 GMT

#1491

Chocolate if you end up being scum, I'm going to look like the world's biggest chump :-\

Fidei86

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June 08 2015 16:57 GMT

#1492

That goes for milo too actually, lol.

Fidei86

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