Carnaval do Brasil Mafia

On May 25 2015 08:27 fuba wrote:
Wishy-washiness is kind of my trademark town play (at least until end game). I used to post a lot more, but every time I would give a giant wall of wishy-washy reads I felt like I was painting a bulls-eye on my back, so I mostly try to think things through on my own now.

In an effort to contribute more, I'll try to get some legit reads into the thread by tomorrow. I don't work today, so I should have time to get it done. I wouldn't get your hopes up for definite town/scum reads, but at least I'll put some of my thoughts on "paper".

I'm up for a nb lynch. It's true that as a vet, it made little sense to claim during the night. The entire situation seems silly as either alignment, but that remains true. The fact that she was supposedly afraid of dying last night despite being sure that mafia wouldn't also attack her would seem to indicate that her fear was feigned. And she still hasn't explained how she flipped from geript/sandroba scum to sandroba scum + geript absolutely town. Despite being asked multiple times. Many of us had this little feeling that geript was actually town, but she seemed sure of it.

##Vote 17ninjabunnies

On May 25 2015 08:29 prplhz wrote:
ALAKASLAM

On May 25 2015 08:40 fuba wrote:

Case in point.

On May 25 2015 08:42 fuba wrote:

lol

fuck off

On May 25 2015 08:42 rsoultin wrote:
lol slam the man giving advice xP

\o/ <3 slam the man ^^ youse like one of my favoritest players lol specially after aperture

kinda funny that you troll-posted in here then ended up replacing in ^^

i'm scumreading your slot though :/ as a head's up

On May 25 2015 08:47 fuba wrote:
Currently wishing there was a mute button in mafia

On May 25 2015 08:53 Onegu wrote:
Slam the man hasnt said HIJOLE, svengali, or Chupazi yet, he must be scum

On May 25 2015 08:56 Onegu wrote:
You replaced in isnt that reason for a HIJOLE?

It is for me


HIJOLE!!! <3 Slam the man. Hope he has forgiven me

On May 25 2015 08:57 rsoultin wrote:


rather you explain or someone else answer, since i think i was one of the only ones already scumreading him in the first place? xP

On May 25 2015 09:14 ritoky wrote:




HE CAN LEARN IT

On May 25 2015 09:12 ritoky wrote:
meh that post you hate is quite a pile of doodoo slam. don't think i have played with fuba before so i don't know if him doodoo posting is alignment indicative, but you said you wanted reasons why it sucks:

self-aware self meta
implies has thoughts/ideas that is not contributing to thread
inconclusive
copied read on popular target

did i get it right?

i don't care if you tunnel slam, just also make sure you don't ignore this whole crap tier claim business by bunnies.

On May 25 2015 09:25 fuba wrote:

If I know better, does it make more sense for me to say it as scum or as town?

On May 25 2015 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh wtf there is a chupazi in our midst hi slam

On May 25 2015 09:38 fuba wrote:

So... because I did as I damn well please and posted what you claim I knew was a scummy post...

On May 25 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:


slam just entered the game and is all hyphy. it's a bad time to read him, you gotta catch him at a time when he is curled up in his mothers lap and unsuspecting.

On May 25 2015 15:21 rsoultin wrote:
yeah none of that is helpful -_- i'm also rambling some cause it's after 1am. gonna call it a night

On May 26 2015 01:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:


..............

On May 26 2015 03:10 sandroba wrote:
You mean mafia would shoot a person who claims VT who is widely scum read.

On May 26 2015 03:33 Fecalfeast wrote:

Have you mentioned a yamato scumread prior to now?

On May 24 2015 02:00 fuba wrote:


Reading what I missed while typing really quick, and I'd probably be fine with a yama lynch as well. It bothers me that he felt the need to explain why he's voting geript even though from what I recall most of his posts are about geript being mafia. It seems defensive. Of course, this still feels flimsy to me, but that should tell you how unsure I really am about my current vote XD

On May 26 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote:

There's no value in getting a response? If he says yes and really hasn't that's a lie that never needed to happen. Did you think I would really not check his filter?

On May 26 2015 03:46 Fecalfeast wrote:

You did more than that. Why do you think slam's play has been towny now? You were prepared to mute him earlier, had you the power.

On May 26 2015 04:15 sandroba wrote:
I can understand being lectured by slam making someone really angry.

On May 26 2015 05:36 rsoultin wrote:














^^ actually reading the thread helps

On May 26 2015 09:11 rsoultin wrote:
lynch fuba with me oneg?

On May 26 2015 09:27 fuba wrote:

If by "sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing" you mean "having similar reactions to given information around the same time as the rest of the thread", then you're right.

I'm not sure I want to vote for Damdred. His recent posts confuse me more than anything. Seems like he's kinda given up. Scummiest thing I see from his filter is promising more activity then not coming through. I have trouble seeing that as a definite scum read because I've been busy/out-of-it before and it's affected my game. The main difference between us in that respect is that he's promised more. I want to see if he comes back with anything this time before voting him.

I actually want to hear more from alakaslam regarding VA. From what I can tell yamato's vote on him was pretty much pure policy. Is there anything else you have to add, slam?

On May 26 2015 09:55 rsoultin wrote:


what's town there, slam?

On May 26 2015 10:00 rsoultin wrote:


eh, i get what you're saying here, though :/ i dunnae

is va kyle?

On May 26 2015 11:48 ritoky wrote:


what of the poopfeaster? he lacks the eye of chupazi this game.

On May 26 2015 12:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh fuba is mkfuba...probably town then. compare his early filter here to his early filters in these games.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/439654-a-quiet-game-of-mini-mafia?user=mkfuba07 - town

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/432880-white-flag-mafia?user=mkfuba07 - mafia

both super short filters to illustrate a point, his tone and focus is quite different. As town he'll tend to get right into it and back posts without needing prompting, while as mafia he just responds to people directly and has a slightly different tone/way of typing. you could look at more games if you want but i think these are sufficient.

On May 26 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote:


i want to lynch fuba lol >< i don't see what you see in his posting that makes you think he's town

i'm townreading prp and oneg though and warming up slightly to sandy :/ i think some of my problem with sandy is we're reading posts differently. i haven't decided yet if that's because he's scum or we just don't see things the same

ff has been underwhelming; he's a fine lynch

i actually liked slam's point on va. do you disagree with it? like i know what you think and i saw that, too, but va's completely coasting, and i can't say that i liked the wifom digression much at all, especially with how unnecessarily defensive it was -_-

On May 26 2015 13:06 Oatsmaster wrote:

HOW THE FUCK DID THAT MAKE HIM TOWN!!>!>

On May 26 2015 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
seriously wtf is this shit.
Fuba has no scumreads and he doesnt give a damn.
he doesnt want to engage with me and randomly throws out town reads for no reason.

Hes scum.

On May 26 2015 14:35 sandroba wrote:
Ritoky I want the reason for your VA town read.

On May 26 2015 14:39 prplhz wrote:
does anybody have a read on sandroba?

On May 26 2015 14:49 sandroba wrote:
Well now I think 27nb is town and prob damdred too, you certainly fell off in my list. Wouldn't lynch you today, but you calling me scum for dumb reasons isn't helping.
I'm a bit on the fence about fuba right now and massively disliking VA.

On May 27 2015 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

WHY NOT FUBA???????
COME ON MAN.

On May 27 2015 05:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
after giving it some thorough thought. I'm voting for fuba.

On May 27 2015 05:28 sandroba wrote:
Wait a minute. I would be really surprised if there are 2 protection roles in this game with mafia kp of 1.

On May 27 2015 06:05 sandroba wrote:
I'm feeling pretty excellent about this. Finally the game is making some sense.

On May 27 2015 09:40 prplhz wrote:
lets kill oats?

On May 27 2015 07:02 sandroba wrote:
Fuck this game.

On May 27 2015 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
nvm va not scum.

On May 27 2015 11:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
ok one of bunnies or fuba is definitely lying/scum if fuba legit claimed jailkeeper.

On May 27 2015 12:41 rsoultin wrote:
i'm usually not a fan of silent nights, but in this case i think it would benefit town

On May 28 2015 08:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
and im glad that fuba still plays the same as ever, that meta was ez pz

On May 28 2015 09:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
So VA has been softing blue this whole time to reveal that he's a passive role and put 27nb's claim into doubt. Sandro comes in with a tracker claim and decent tracks.

Waiting in rsoultin and if she confirms mason I'm gona flip

On May 28 2015 11:47 rsoultin wrote:


...

swahili

i am fucking speaking swahili again ><

the point is 3p claiming MASON is retarded

On May 28 2015 11:52 prplhz wrote:
either OP is wrong or 3p is a non-participant who should claim d1 and then post only not to get modkilled. that's the only way i can see it. the only other use of the potential of the role in the game is that mafia can claim it if they feel like it.

i agree it makes no fucking sense for VA to do this shit as scum but it makes even less sense as actual 3p and no sense as town.

On May 28 2015 12:34 prplhz wrote:


these two posts in succession sounds like in the first post oats knows we're mislynching

On May 28 2015 13:13 Onegu wrote:
Im not lynching VA I have only seen town fake claim mason.

Me in Guardians. Damdred in Generic.

On May 28 2015 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote:

Is this contradictory?

Slam, why should I know better? How do you think you play scum?

On May 29 2015 03:01 sandroba wrote:
slam. 3rd one you guys figure out. I'll be dead tomorrow anyway.

On May 23 2015 05:13 yamato77 wrote:

That's the plan, folks.

Otherwise it's fucking MYLO and you're trying to figure out what the fuck he's doing and you're just fucked.

On May 23 2015 12:19 yamato77 wrote:
Solid game. Rso managing to call me mafia for no reason and get away with it. This must be her scumgame.

Geript/sandro/rso

Maybe replace one with VA if they turn up town. Otherwise I'm happy with everyone else for the day.

On May 24 2015 03:01 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, continue to call me mafia for shitty reasons and dodge giving a real read on geript while consenting to his lynch.

And Sandro, idk what you're doing because your geript read actually doesn't make sense to me anymore and it looks like you're just trying to push shitty lynches.

On May 29 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote:


hello useless ^^ i love your interpretation of "going ham" btw

+ Show Spoiler +

let's play a game called "i don't give a fuck about your vet claim", and why don't you tell me who is scum instead of you let's also pretend that va doesn't exist. k? k

On May 29 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:


o.0 LHF? i don't know what LHF stands for...

i don't think that people thinking you're scummy has much to do with their alignment, though...you're a pain in the ass to read on the best of days and you're more townie than yama was in your slot -_-

On May 29 2015 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:

Dude Yamato the prophet

On May 29 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:


do you agree with what i said about va?

also, lol >< assuming that you don't want to lynch into the blue claims today, is oats still your strongest scumread? who would you lynch if we don't lynch him today?

On May 28 2015 19:27 rsoultin wrote:


nvm this lol >< i'm a dumbass

ehhhh i don't know how much time i'm going to have to put into this game after this day phase...school starts up monday for me and it's been...well literally a decade since i played full-time student on campus lol ><

i keep coming back to the stupidity of that soft claim and i think the only thing more ridiculous than survivor doing it is scum doing it, then claiming survivor -_- i feel like the obv scum move here, assuming bunnies is town, would be to just cc her when he gets called on his fake claim...like literally the only reason to claim survivor as scum is if they're both scum, and why the fuck would he say fuba and bunnies were lying, then try to get a mason claim after the nk that he knew would be on fuba, if he and bunnies were scum together?

like, we could still vote him as a placeholder i guess, but i doubt he's scum it just doesn't make sense ><

have to agree that if there's scum in the blue claims it's definitely bunnies. no contest...and i really hate her posting >< it irritates the shit out of me to have to repeat myself a half-dozen times just to get a straight answer

not lynching prp or sandy today ever...va probably shouldn't be the lynch, either

i don't know how comfortable i am lynching into the blue claims right now, though...a 3p in the game changes a lot

oneg what is this va is town bs you're spouting? -_-

On May 29 2015 04:12 rsoultin wrote:


meh -_-

va is included in those two mislynches, though, and i really do not see him being scum here. if we're talking about personal feelings i'd be happy to lynch him for trying to play me xP but i'd rather win the game

main problem i can see with that is even if he's survivor, it's to his advantage to help scum win to end the game sooner; he essentially admitted as much ><

bah. it's a cop-out, plain and simple...and as i said before, my time to play is going to tank massively after this day phase, unless you see scum where i don't

On May 29 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:


which are?

On May 29 2015 04:26 rsoultin wrote:


never stopped me before xP you really think lynching va who you don't believe is scum is better than a scumread?

On May 29 2015 05:23 sandroba wrote:

I don't see him pulling that shit as scum, 3p survivor fits more because it's a boring role that feels like a free win so him claiming to spice things up fits more. Scum has like 0 motivation to fake claim mason ->doesn't work -> claim 3p survivor (???) why not just claim VT in that spot.

On May 29 2015 06:18 rsoultin wrote:
...lol ><

it's amazing how everyone is missing the obvious

slam virtually gave the deciding vote to the one player that is definitely not town, before prp jumped wagons

On May 29 2015 06:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
slam/oats/prp is the best i have right now. Fuck host wifom, i don't think oats or slam give half a shit about this game. Prp is the weak one of the bunch and could possibly be persuaded to swap 27nb in if no vig flips. Prp has a huge filter and actually has been taking part in the game but has also been very adamant about killing a claimed blue and has also been weakly pushing me all game as, in my experience, scum likes to do thinking i am a good lategame mislynch.(I'm not, i am a wizard)

Furthermore, slam says he's trying to drive discussion when in reality, he's waiting to see what he can call scummy after people react to his handing the hammer to va, even though it's so premature, the day doesn't end for 24 hours so nobody has a hammer yet. It all feels so contrived.

On May 29 2015 06:34 sandroba wrote:
It's prob just slam bunnies and someone else.

On May 29 2015 07:08 sandroba wrote:
while most of us are trying to figure this shit out 27nb isn't doing shit, that's why I'm going to lynch her. Even after most of us TR her d2 she didn't try to do anything useful. So yeah.

On May 29 2015 09:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes va

Damn it.
Hahahahahaha
OK
Rsoul
Onegu
prp
Sandro
Are town.

Ff
Slam
Bunnies
Va
Are not town.

Does anyone disagree with this list assuming I'm town?

On May 29 2015 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote:

so far theres like 2 people and both of the 2 people are in my scumlist .
So, you are not wrong, but thats not the point.
considering half the game is in my scumlist or not town list.

On May 29 2015 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote:

so far theres like 2 people and both of the 2 people are in my scumlist .
So, you are not wrong, but thats not the point.
considering half the game is in my scumlist or not town list.

On May 29 2015 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:

Well, by bad i dont mean you went on the wrong people. Well I guess if you are scum you did go on the wrong people.

Its like your push on geript was not great. Your opening sucked. You didnt have a good reason to go onto bunnies.
But i dont think bunnies and you are scum together.

bunnies is uncc'ed vet. thats not a reason lol.

On May 29 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:


what exactly is enough, oats? just out of curiosity ^^

my problem with the bunnies lynch is onegu -_-

which reminds me...slam is still voting for his townread like a boss \o/

On May 29 2015 13:45 favmirage wrote:


xP do you remember who you're voting?

lol@oats...fearmongering or just fear? i can't remember if you've actually been in any of my scum games :/

On May 29 2015 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why do you have an alt with 7 posts lol.

Totes fear ^^.

Do you have any other questions?

On May 29 2015 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No slam no, im not scum.

On May 29 2015 14:04 Oatsmaster wrote:

Obviously theres no way to know what fuba did at night. Duh. Duh.
Assume i dont lie k. I dont lie as mafia or town so just assume that. except to questions that directly ask my alignment, Duh.


Sandro is scum if bunnies isnt.

I think ff is pretty damn scummy for OMGUSing me and a huge overreaction to a list post with no reasoning.

The last one I dunno, slam is actual posting ok now so I gotta think whether onegu is a filthy liar.

On May 30 2015 07:38 Onegu wrote:
We are in mylo, and scum think oh onegu iz ez mislynch. So lets all put shit on him. Then onegu finds them all and wins the game!!!

Sick Playz

On May 30 2015 09:29 sandroba wrote:
actually prpl pointed out the bad onegu read by 27nb d1 and engaged her quite a bit. Pretty weird if they are both mafia, but the unvote and not switching eod 1 is indeed suspicious. Not sure so sure on him. Weird that he didn't commented on the stuff that went on eod 3 despite being there. Hopefully it's simply slam with them and you don't have to think about it.

On May 31 2015 00:06 rsoultin wrote:
:/ so, moving day...hoping net will be easy to set up and shit but yeah, not sure how it's gonna pan out timewise

in case this is my last post before EoN, basically where i was at yesterday...want to look more into the actual points on ff and not bunnies' posting 10 mins after deadline = ff confirmed scum wifom, but that's gonna have to wait on more important things xP

bueno

ciao folks...oh, @ oats...not buying the scum mason claim challenging the scum vet claim bit; va still more likely 3p in my eyes...only story that fits the former is bunnies wants to be bussed lol >< and then why the counterwagon?

On May 31 2015 05:28 Onegu wrote:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SLAM THE MAN!!!

On May 31 2015 08:57 sandroba wrote:


This is a mafia post. Mafia is FF and slam.

On May 29 2015 03:23 Alakaslam wrote:
There is no reason for me to tell Fuba what he should be doing. He was a freaking easy lynch, I pounced on him immediately!

But did I "make case" and all that? No- that isn't how I approach townplay! I know I am not likely to be right on a scum read. So I told him to step it up, and he did. If I was scum I would be calling for his lynch as a replace. He would have been easy.

And Yamato, how the hell you people read Yamato as scum? I am gonna filter my predecessor again. I think whoever was slinging poo at him to where he got pissed was probably the scum.

On May 29 2015 05:51 Alakaslam wrote:
You know what?

I do this a lot and I think it's a discussion maker.

Imma vote 27. This will make it 4/4. People can then have more Moto to decide, and we can see how a scum might react.

On May 31 2015 10:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
This game is so frustrating. If VA isn't scum we lose since you're all going to derp on me and the game will stagnate until I flip town. Then there's a shitstorm and mafia uses the shitstorm to push va ezpz.

maybe I'll play later but I have no motivation right now

On May 31 2015 10:16 sandroba wrote:
@FF why? If you were town you would be in a unique position to actually figure out who the mafia is. Also on your wagon was me/va/onegu(dead green). Pretty much means that to you ritoky is confirmed town. And most people that didn't switch to you are town too. It doesn't surprise me that you are pulling this act though.

On May 31 2015 12:41 sandroba wrote:
You are still mafia slam. If you guys filter yamato you will see no mention of nb at all and you will notice he went agro on me as soon as I changed from geript to nb.
Also this post here:

He implies nb is a shit lynch while still saying nothing at all about her. If you also filter nb you will see she rarely ever mentions yamato d1.
D2 somehow she says yamato looked scummy d1 although slam is looking townie.

On May 31 2015 13:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
why did onegu die?

Pretty much means rsoul is 100% scum.

On June 01 2015 03:21 Fecalfeast wrote:

I was wrong you have a list-like post, good show, slam.

---

Slam this post comes 3 minutes after your vote on onegu and you never move your vote again. Would you mind explaining why you voted onegu?



These 2 posts are about an hour before deadline and your last posts of the day phase. You are aware of the 27 lynch and instead of understanding it and weighing in, you disappear for 8 hours. I don't think, other than from throwaway votes, you mentioned 27nb without the context of her vet claim



Slam have you actually cared who gets lynched all game? Looking at the ritoky/fuba wagons you seemed to be happy hopping from one to the other. You even had ritoky voted before any shenanigans happened.

---

I will repeat what I said last cycle but leave oats out for now since the red flip on 27nb makes me pretty wrong on oats.

Slam doesn't care about anything that happens this game. He doesn't care that I'm dying even though he 'doesn't know why' his only reaction post mafia lynch is 'sandro cleared' like anyone thought sandroba was mafia at this point except slam. It all feels like he's only in thread when it's favourable to him.

I'm tempted to mention the fact that slam is calling himself out on scummy stuff he does but that's just opening a can of WIFOM anyway.

I don't even know why I'm doing this much work but I found myself reading filters and I think I caught something.

##vote alakaslam

I am thinking the obvious team of slam/VA but I am also not certain. That team kinda relies on slam not being around when the shenanigans on me arose since VA started it which is giving me pause.

On June 02 2015 10:06 sandroba wrote:
Can you guys pls agree to kill slam tomorrow? This game has taken too long already.

On June 05 2015 05:47 rsoultin wrote:


what are you trying to say, slam?

On June 05 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
Why didn't you think ff was scum, slam?

On June 06 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
Slam the man..where you at?

On June 06 2015 10:47 prplhz wrote:
normally i'd ask the person i am lynching to talk to me but i don't understand slam at all. he'll just go "eye of chupazi will svengali the hijole" and i'll be none the wiser. however i'll read what he has to say.

i just don't think my read is going to change. it's not like rso can't be scum but i don't think, in this game, i'll think she's more likely to be scum than slam.

On June 07 2015 13:46 rsoultin wrote:
mmmm looking through prp tonight, slam/yam and the scumlets tomorrow

- so...random switch off bunnies day 1, you said you weren't sure why but lol >< find that hard to believe. what were you thinking at the time that made you unvote her? (pretty sure it was well before the blue claim)

not gonna talk about the lurking day 3 since you both did that @.@

- day 4 when ff was getting lynched...joke vote on sandy, wat? lol ><

you fell off during and after the ff lynch, though i think we're all guilty of that to some extent, but apart from those things i'm not seeing anything i really hate in your filter?

the push on bunnies was pretty hard d1 until the random unvote, and that early vote on ff when fuba and rit were the main wagons d2 looks good i think, because it wouldn't have taken much to swing thread sentiment against ff at that point, so that's a risky time to needlessly buss for scum

can you answer the two questions, please?