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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 05:22 GMT
#1241
On May 25 2015 14:18 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:51 prplhz wrote:
@27ninjabunnies Please expand on that Onegu read. You say it's not his best case + Show Spoiler +
His entire case is:

Onegu gut read?

Or the fact that her Sandroba read points are bad. Who cares he doesnt have any town reads. I dont either. Doesnt make me scum.
so what makes you "really like" Onegu? "everything he has done comes from a townie perspective" is really just saying that he's town because he's town.


To be honest, I thought he made a read on rsoul, but I was actually remembering a different read on rsoul from someone else. He just voted rsoul.

So, I don't have an actual basis for what he has done. His filter is actually mostly filler and I'm vt.

He could be town, but idk. Hasn't done anything.

I'll try and find that read on rsoul that I really liked and see who it was from tho.

MY b.

But I do have something to say about onegu..

Why did people jump on the bw for a gut read?
That's curious to me. Like I don't care I'm being voted. But, why jump on the bw?

Sand did it.
You made atleast a case on me, I guess.


for reference

not that she ever did find what read she supposedly thought was his -_- bueno

i don't think this is getting us anywhere, to be frank

she never took away her town read and despite onegu not doing anything she still thought it all came from a townie perspective. The read on onegu was random in that big post (which honestly is terrible for a bunch of other reasons as well) and when called out on it she back pedaled a bit. But from there to I would lynch onegu and would never lynch geript you can see there is something missing.


i really don't get how we're reading the same post here -_- are we talking about the same big post? cause what i quoted doesn't look like she's reading onegu town
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 05:28 GMT
#1242
On May 25 2015 14:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
On May 25 2015 13:53 Damdred wrote:
Like I was just thinking about the nb claim and the softing that she was blue to ritoky who she thinks is mafia. And if she is actually the vet it sort of makes sense to me.

Its part of the reason I think i'd rather not lynch NB today (and agree with hf assessment to save NB till last) if she is a role mafia is never going to shoot her last night anyway. They could potentially role block her due to the fear of being another role hiding, if anything they shoot her tonight since they can't rb twice in a row or wait till n3 and rb+shoot in case they are really scared of the vet being in the game.

Either way HF is right and that we need to save NB to the last lynch, it forces mafia to shoot her at some point if she is a power role and we get to hunt mafia besides her and get information that way.

I disagree with her claiming vet in the thread like she did, I wont' go over my idea of balance but it is what it is. But it is what it is and I don't think we should lynch her today.


last post tonight i think since it's late and i appear to be talking to myself anyway xP

i generally agree with this on principle, but i don't want to unvote her atm

i also don't want to lynch va


I'm not positive I want to lynch VA either atm either, I think Fuba/Oneg deserve closer attention maybe make them give reads and contribute a bit more.

I'm pretty sure Ritoky is town here, Slam is townish(?), You are town Rsoultin, FF is still town to me even though i'm not sure what he did during the night. And I still have reasons to think sandroba is town. And Prp is sorta meta from what I remember o fhim this game so far.

Kinda puts it into perspective that NB, Onegu, Fuba, VA

So its not exactly a terrible place to start with currently. What do you think? (try to break that last posting by you rsoultin)


lol >< i always say it's my last post and i always end up sticking around; you'd think i'd learn self-control at some point

i wouldn't lynch slam today...and eh...i can't read rit for shit. he hasn't done the one thing people tell me is a clear scumtell of his, though. that's why i need you to be clearly town for me cause you're the main reason i'm willing to accept him as town :/

sandy and i read the same posts and get different things and it's really fucking bugging me >< going by pure meta, though, he could be town

i'm pretty confident about prp being town? less so about oneg in all honesty but i still think he is

so i'm actually at fuba/bunnies/sandy/ff
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2015 05:31 GMT
#1243
On May 25 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 14:18 sandroba wrote:
On May 25 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:51 prplhz wrote:
@27ninjabunnies Please expand on that Onegu read. You say it's not his best case + Show Spoiler +
His entire case is:

Onegu gut read?

Or the fact that her Sandroba read points are bad. Who cares he doesnt have any town reads. I dont either. Doesnt make me scum.
so what makes you "really like" Onegu? "everything he has done comes from a townie perspective" is really just saying that he's town because he's town.


To be honest, I thought he made a read on rsoul, but I was actually remembering a different read on rsoul from someone else. He just voted rsoul.

So, I don't have an actual basis for what he has done. His filter is actually mostly filler and I'm vt.

He could be town, but idk. Hasn't done anything.

I'll try and find that read on rsoul that I really liked and see who it was from tho.

MY b.

But I do have something to say about onegu..

Why did people jump on the bw for a gut read?
That's curious to me. Like I don't care I'm being voted. But, why jump on the bw?

Sand did it.
You made atleast a case on me, I guess.


for reference

not that she ever did find what read she supposedly thought was his -_- bueno

i don't think this is getting us anywhere, to be frank

she never took away her town read and despite onegu not doing anything she still thought it all came from a townie perspective. The read on onegu was random in that big post (which honestly is terrible for a bunch of other reasons as well) and when called out on it she back pedaled a bit. But from there to I would lynch onegu and would never lynch geript you can see there is something missing.


i really don't get how we're reading the same post here -_- are we talking about the same big post? cause what i quoted doesn't look like she's reading onegu town

She did town read onegu randomly. Then prpl called her out on it. Then she said "idk, he could be town, he isn't doing anything etc" She doesn't say he is mafia at any point, in fact her gut read before prpl pressed her was he was town. Contrary to geript who she feels could be "pocketing" her. So she saying she would never lynch geript and would prefer to lynch onegu makes no sense. Get it??
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 05:39 GMT
#1244
On May 25 2015 14:31 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote:
On May 25 2015 14:18 sandroba wrote:
On May 25 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:51 prplhz wrote:
@27ninjabunnies Please expand on that Onegu read. You say it's not his best case + Show Spoiler +
His entire case is:

Onegu gut read?

Or the fact that her Sandroba read points are bad. Who cares he doesnt have any town reads. I dont either. Doesnt make me scum.
so what makes you "really like" Onegu? "everything he has done comes from a townie perspective" is really just saying that he's town because he's town.


To be honest, I thought he made a read on rsoul, but I was actually remembering a different read on rsoul from someone else. He just voted rsoul.

So, I don't have an actual basis for what he has done. His filter is actually mostly filler and I'm vt.

He could be town, but idk. Hasn't done anything.

I'll try and find that read on rsoul that I really liked and see who it was from tho.

MY b.

But I do have something to say about onegu..

Why did people jump on the bw for a gut read?
That's curious to me. Like I don't care I'm being voted. But, why jump on the bw?

Sand did it.
You made atleast a case on me, I guess.


for reference

not that she ever did find what read she supposedly thought was his -_- bueno

i don't think this is getting us anywhere, to be frank

she never took away her town read and despite onegu not doing anything she still thought it all came from a townie perspective. The read on onegu was random in that big post (which honestly is terrible for a bunch of other reasons as well) and when called out on it she back pedaled a bit. But from there to I would lynch onegu and would never lynch geript you can see there is something missing.


i really don't get how we're reading the same post here -_- are we talking about the same big post? cause what i quoted doesn't look like she's reading onegu town

She did town read onegu randomly. Then prpl called her out on it. Then she said "idk, he could be town, he isn't doing anything etc" She doesn't say he is mafia at any point, in fact her gut read before prpl pressed her was he was town. Contrary to geript who she feels could be "pocketing" her. So she saying she would never lynch geript and would prefer to lynch onegu makes no sense. Get it??


okay, okay -_- i think we're literally looking at the same words and reading them differently, but the bolded portion at least is factually correct

i didn't read the "pocketing" comment as suggesting that he was scum whereas you did and you missed her post saying she had the opposite read on oneg, but the initial one is still kind of out of the blue and she hasn't been able to deliver the read she "thought" was his

i really don't want to argue about this anymore because it's doing absolutely no good
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2015 05:43 GMT
#1245
Pocketing is a very commonly used term in video mafia and it means scum getting a townie to town read him, normally by town reading the townie who is in a tough spot.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 05:48 GMT
#1246
you could easily be right? i only ever use it that way, too -_- fucking dp pocketing geript lol >< but honestly i've seen others use it differently on the site so i was going by context, considering she said it in response to me asking her why she was so sure about her scumread on you

awfully weird to be using it the video mafia way or whatever when i'm asking her why she's so certain you're scum over geript, don't you think?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2015 05:52 GMT
#1247
Yes it is indeed weird.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 05:57 GMT
#1248
lol -_-

bueno. in the interest of not launching into another reading comprehension rant that has everyone and their brother asking me why i'm being so damn bitchy this game...

i can see you believing what you're saying, so i guess it served some sort of purpose

if we don't lynch bunnies today, i don't think i want to lynch you, either :/ i wish you'd talk about your other reads more, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2015 06:10 GMT
#1249
I think you prpl and ritoky are town. Slam if it wasn't for yamato d1 I would say I lean town, but I don't have that much experience reading him. Don't really like damdred. Tentatevily like onegu and va. Others I'm unsure on.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 06:19 GMT
#1250
heh i have like the oddest way i know of reading slam (other than oneg's hijole thing which i'm pretty sure maybe is a joke? lol ><) and it's not really perfect either cause i was reading him town when he was just super excited to be 3p but eh...and to be frank i kinda was poking at rit to see if our reads on slam lined up to get a better read on rit

i dunnae like i get not liking damdy based on his play objectively? and i really have nothing for you there. i'm reading him on tone...he rolled scum a few times in a row a few games back or whatever and a flip switched in my brain on him or something but hell if i can put it into words -_- the closest i can get is he's...stiff...as scum lol >< the emotion just is completely absent or off
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 06:21 GMT
#1251
yeah none of that is helpful -_- i'm also rambling some cause it's after 1am. gonna call it a night
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 25 2015 07:01 GMT
#1252
Day 2 Vote Count

27ninjabunnies (6): prplhz, sandroba, rsoultin, Fecalfeast, fuba, Alakaslam
Damdred (1): VayneAuthority

Not voted (4): 27ninjabunnies, Damdred, ritoky, Onegu

Currently, 27ninjabunnies is set to be executed. Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is located here.
Posting after the deadline and before the flip will result in a modkill.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 25 2015 07:05 GMT
#1253
On May 25 2015 15:21 rsoultin wrote:
yeah none of that is helpful -_- i'm also rambling some cause it's after 1am. gonna call it a night

U east coast, u east coast!

Hiiiijiiiiiiiijollleeeeee!!!!!!!!


I sleep for the ways of registering that I am to be female this game

Cramps... Blood... Vulnerability... I must learn to overcome. I must be more a man than a man. For the world is not kind to my kind, now.

Yet, I am also more beautiful than normally! XD

Flavor too much for the slam folks, btw of female I would actually look like
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 25 2015 07:57 GMT
#1254
A tomorrow I hope to see 27nb speak of my flat out vote of hijole
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 16:25 GMT
#1255
Okay, I'm back from my camping trip. Bare with me as I catch up on a shit ton of pages, not freak out over the votes on me, and figure out why the hell Slam is voting on me.

This make take an hour or more.

On another note, sup people.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 16:50 GMT
#1256
On May 25 2015 16:57 Alakaslam wrote:
A tomorrow I hope to see 27nb speak of my flat out vote of hijole


..............
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 25 2015 17:11 GMT
#1257
On May 25 2015 13:44 rsoultin wrote:

bunnies, if you ever decide to grace us with your presence ^^ who were you referring to here?

      On May 24 2015 07:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
      I'm hardclaiming a role. Vig don't shoot me thanks.
      If cop wants to check me, go ahead.

      I'll give my reads later on.

      I didn't want to lynch geript for who was voting on him.

      As of now, im going to enjoy family time and let you all stew over which role i am.

      Hint: I softed throughout this entire game basically to ritoky....


bunnies, would you please address this and also hf's questions at EoN?

On May 25 2015 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 06:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I mean, I get I haven't read everything thouroughly and HF doesn't get my reasoning,

But prp. seriously. Read. I already said why


REPLY TO MY GOD DAMN FUCKING POST WOMAN

seriously how hard is it

tell me THE SPECIFIC DETAILS THAT YOU LIKED IN GERIPTS POST AND THEN WHAT I SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH


RIGHT NOW


the movers are supposed to come tomorrow to pick up my furniture @.@ so i'm going to be pretty busy today and tomorrow, but i'll be around
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 25 2015 17:36 GMT
#1258
On May 26 2015 01:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 16:57 Alakaslam wrote:
A tomorrow I hope to see 27nb speak of my flat out vote of hijole


..............

Page 50 something, like second or third post after I replaced in
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 17:39 GMT
#1259
Okay, since no one is around really, I can probably make a huge post and you can all catch up on my thoughts. Sorry guys, but this is the best way for me to address everything that has been asked. I'll go down the line, and try to give all my thoughts in a concise matter. I tend to leave things out as I write reads.

Vet Claim
So here is why I claimed my actual role as vet, for those of you who are too dumb to understand even though I've explained it a million times.

1. I was told I had to claim- so ok. I claim a blue role.
2. I say in my claim that ritoky knows that I softed to him
Q. Omg, bunnies. Why would you soft your role to someone you think is mafia?
A. I believe ritoky is mafia. If rit knows that I'm softing to him, he'd shoot me in the night, I absorbing kp for that night, and we don't lose a town or a role.
3. I had to claim my actual role and not another blue role or vt.
Q. Omg, bunnies why would you do that? You just confused us more and allowed other scum to push on you!
A. Because, some dumbass (I think it was HF) said that if I claimed VT, vig should shoot me anyway. Dumb play, I'd die, so I couldn't just claim VT there. And why didn't I claim another role? Because, I was being so highly read as scum, if I were to claim a role that wasn't my own that was actually in the game, I risk that person scum reading me, coming out, and not having their role useful in the game because they have died.

Moving on.

Ritoky Read(With some FF in there)
Q. Bunnies, why are you reading Ritoky as mafia?
A. I read ritoky as mafia every game. But I do have reasons this time
1. Ritoky's beginning game was pretty meh. Usually you can tell rit town by his content, but his first couple filter pages just seems like he is interjecting to look townie.
2. This interjection between FF and Rit is what was originally making me read FF as town. Rit just seems super defensive and testing waters on whom he could push for what I think is a mislynch+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2015 10:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
... I'm not sure I like what you're doing here ritoky, you're asking me to make a snap read on you based on how you interpreted a post that I find slightly scummy? I'm not sure what you want me to say. I'm just going to look at your filter.

On one hand, it feels like you're trying to force me to fumble my words or something. Like you're waiting to prey on me...

On the other hand, you're actually talking about ingame stuff and trying to get reads, rather than posting gifs. Yet it's still lighthearted enough.

Yeah I could read you town for now. I just don't like this interaction we've just had.


You thought enough of fuba's post to put it at the very beginning of your initial reads post, so clearly it stuck out to you. However, you gave no opinion on it calling it "funny". What the shit am I supposed to learn from that, right? So I asked you to express it in terms of alignment. You said scum or nothing. I told you I had the literal exact opposite reaction, and asked what that made you think of me. Tell me how this progression is scummy.

I don't really like what you're doing this game. I just find your posts uninteresting and not driving the game forward. Those are two qualities I don't really ascribe to your town play, particularly early in the game. I will re-evaluate you later in the day, but you're in the scum lean pile with geript.


3.Just saying
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 23 2015 08:35 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:30 ritoky wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
bunnies keeping that incorrect read streak alive.

I don't like your reads in the slightest.

you don't acknowledge any of sandroba's points and why they are correct or incorrect, your little bit is mostly just conjecture and heuristics and tone. and you've never even touched on the really good point he made about geript trying to double dip on his read on you. how he implied it was sarcastic and fake yet wanted credit for it being real.

you then spend more time and effort devoted to geript who isn't your scum read, and the majority of it doesn't feel like it is much about geript but a defense of yourself.

you call it weird and say it is unlikely that they are both town, but I don't see a good justification as to why.

you give town reads on FF and HF, maybe 1 of which deserves it.

then you neutral and scum read the 2 largest filters in the game who did the most pushing early game.

then you mention fuba and onegu....why fuba? why not VA, prp, etc. onegu a bit more understandable cuz you actually have a read. but why the hell fuba? you spewing him town?

DO NOT LIKE


You know you could just ask me what my reads are or further explain reads instead of going ham. I'd be more than happy to give them to you.

I'm not sure which of sands points you are talking about. I havent even fully read through sands filter, just ping out the things i notice most while reading through.

Geript is a good read for me. Of course im going to comment more on something i am sure about than something im not.
I gave my justification about why they are both not town. read again.

Which one out of HF and FF do you think deserves a tr? I'm honestly curious. And say why.

More posting does not equal town. You know this from many of my previous games as mafia. Content= town. Reconsideration and evaluation of the game=town. Not mass posting. Just cause they are pushing and posting does not make them town. Easily done as mafia.

Fuba- I definitely didn't say Fuba wwas town. I said neutral, as in neutrally dont have a read either way. Dont put words in my mouth.
Says in thread he has been lurking,comes back basically 24 hours later with two questions that holyflare (I think?) answered yes to only, and hasnt said much yet.... NEutral

VA- haven't read anything worthwhile on commenting from VA
Onegu- I gave a read in an earlier post that I admitted to that was wrong

Now that I've basically discredited your entire post, Ritoky, you want to tell me how you're town, and not mafia?


So you haven't read the filter or the case of your top mafia read.....is this serious?

most posting day 1 almost always = town. the #1 filter is town over 90% of the time. so uh, you're just wrong.

nothing else is worth responding to.


this guy so far up his own butt that he's quite likely mafia though, should be obvious anyone that admits something so stupid as to not having read their scum read but voting them is probably town


+not getting jokes
++ too serious all game
+++ mafia ritoky


hope you're town so I have finally gotten your read on me to be bad.


4. I just don't think ritoky is actually looking at the game from a townie perspective. He should be reevaluating his reads, but even as I claimed vet, he didn't reall believe it at all.
Sand/Geript Reads
Q.
On May 25 2015 07:37 ritoky wrote:
okay 27nb. for your next couple of posts i am going to try to forget the fact that i think you're most probably scum.

you have been stating for a long time that there is almost 100% 1 between geript and sandroba. use those next few posts where i am not considering you mafia to make a case and convince me why there was necessarily 1 between geript and sandroba and why sandroba is mafia.

go.


A. The Truth: I didnt read any consstancies HF, nor your point of inconsistencies. Sorry, not sorr, but I didn't think they mattered. I felt HF was pushing on geript for dumb reasons, and reasons i didnt agree with.

As for Sand/Geript. They were arguing SO much trying to go ham on each other and get each other lynched there. I don't see two town doing this. I see atleast one mafia pushing on another town. I just wasn't sure which one was mafia. Originally I thought geript was mafia because he came out with the dumb read that I used two different entrances into the game, and it seemed like he wanted t push on me for that. Then, later on, he changed me to "fourth or fifth" lynch. But I don't see where Geript double dipped on his read on me that HF and Sand were claiming, unless what I just stated was double dipping?

As for Sand- sand has been inconsistant basically the entire game.
1. Comes into the thread complaining. What town does this?
2. Argues with geript over incosistancies that I didn't even see. Seems like a push on a nonexistant case, even admits to it not getting traction and wanting to lynch yam and me.
3. This si the point wher eI want to hear more on Sand's read on yam/now Slam. Sand mentioned it once, saying it was me/yam or me/gerpt, but actually hasn't pushed a read on why yam is mafia.
4/ I'm just getting really bad vibes from Sand. I still believe in the one mafia between Sand/Geript, and geript flipping as town just solidifies this idea




Side note: It was Geript who had the read on Rsoul that I liked, not Onegu.


Ummm, so that's what I ahve so far. Gonna post this and read a bit more and see what I can find.
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May 25 2015 17:47 GMT
#1260
NO NB. Don't do such things.

Whenever you roll vet you are simply glorified VT. No games because vet claim is the most common scum fake claim.
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