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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 21:55 GMT
#668
Palomar made a good case. I already said before hat I really didn't want to lynch Obi today
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 22:08 GMT
#671
I think Obi is a sub optimal lynch on day one and how he acts around the lynch and during the night is more telling in context then when he's being a bastard under pressure generally.

And I disagree I thought Palmar case was good as did a few other people, it's easy to say x has a town lean but it's different when that lean does absolutely nothing for 36 hours which is alignment indicative of that person
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 22:35 GMT
#676
On May 20 2015 07:21 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
I think Obi is a sub optimal lynch on day one and how he acts around the lynch and during the night is more telling in context then when he's being a bastard under pressure generally.


Well now you've seen how he acted around the lynch and at the start of the night. Thoughts?

Also do you find anything I posted about him convincing?


I actually think Obi is town now, which is granted going to,bring heat on me.

I think the points you bring up aren't bad and they merit but, Obi as mafia has a clear agenda and I hinted at this earlier about leaving himself easy outs without bringing notice to himself. His initial vote on me I feel landed him in that category but later postings looked a lot more town Obi in that he left himself in bad positions to be called out on.

I'll go deeper at my larger analysis when I get off work But I'm happy to answer questions before then
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 22:37 GMT
#677
Stop,being bad GB. Vivax did not play like this in assassination he obviously cared and looked towny near eod where as here he didn't.

And again thus shirt point about ze who's on content at the time was in me how was I going to,engage him objectively at that point again?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 22:39 GMT
#680
Lynch who for inactivity?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 22:43 GMT
#682
If you are talking about zelos then you should check filter lengths he's not inactive
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 22:45 GMT
#684
You are being nonsensival, not having a lot of,content I,can work with objectively doesn't make him inactive. That's just idiotic
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 22:52 GMT
#687
Hard claiming blue, I'll leave my final thoughts before end of night if a dumb vig hits me or if mafia takes me out.

Which I hope it does happen IDK that I was scrappy towards ze which I do apologize for I feel bad for the trolling.

This isn't a fun game for me good luck any questions just leave them
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 23:01 GMT
#689
Not really hopefully I do get shot I really do not care nothing you have said this entire game makes me Scum at all.

Palmars case was good, vivax didn't act towny bear eod so it's whatever.

Just shoot me get me out of this game
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 23:06 GMT
#690
Point one: stutters is Scum now, for really good reasons I'll expound on later

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 23:14 GMT
#692
And everyone leaves oh well.

I'll just save all my thoughts for my huge list thingy
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 23:30 GMT
#693
The game really isn't that inactive though, some people do need to step up but it is what it is.

Also actively lurking eh stutters
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 00:33 GMT
#699
Might as well convince people I'm mafia before I shoot you during the night GB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 01:21 GMT
#702
Maybe I answered in not sure I know that I thought about the answer. However the answer is its impossible for me to read GB based on the only thing him doing is tunneling on me for bad reasons. He does it every game regardless of alignment.

I think the game was like 20-30 posts old at most so can't really get much out of a null indicator at that moment
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 17:42 GMT
#755
I think this is the correct vote count for eod.

On May 20 2015 03:01 KelsierSC wrote:
Vote Count:


Damdred(0) - , Palmar, GlowingBear, Zealos[/s[
Zealos (0) - , Onegu
Palmar (0) - Zealos, ShoCkeyy,
TheShining(0) - Stutters
ShoCkeyy(2) - GlowingBear, Sciberbia, ObiWanShinobi, Oatsmaster
Onegu(1) - Qwerty
ObiWanShinobi(3) - Sciberbia, Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Qwerty, Qwerty
Vivax(8) - Oatsmaster, Damdred, Stutters, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Zealos, The Shining, Onegu, Glowing Bear, Qwerty



____________________________________________________________________________________________

Before I get to far into this or who I think is scum, an honest question how is this post

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 20 2015 04:53 Vivax wrote:
Seems I don't have enough time for a thorough reread.

Anyway you know about my Palmar read. I just don't think this is his town play, simply put. Can't explain it. There's just no feeling behind it that he is willing to solve the game.

I scumread Obi based on the question GB loved. The thingy where he asks why a guy resorts to policy or something. I don't think that's a serious question, as in it's faked. Can't explain why in detail.

Sciberbia felt suspicious to me in the beginning, but the high activity makes it hard for me be confident about this. Anyway he's a good target for a coop check.

Damdred, no idea, he seemed a bit afk at the beginning I guess, also the post where he says something then just accepts it as it is.
Onegu, can easily be mafia. He's usually a bit more headstrong than that in picking his lynches.

For post-lynch, look at who agrees with Palmar's points and who pushes the wincon stuff. If they do both they might be lying.



so towny to get you to bet that he is town and willing to switch off the last minute? There is nothing really concrete or really overall really great in this list. Everything is pretty much half done, well I guess can't really explain. I just don't see the super towny post that would cause Qwerty to go yep hes town and switch.
_____________

I'll get to Qwerty in a minute though

Damdred(0) - , [s]Palmar, GlowingBear, [s]Zealos[/s[
Zealos (0) - , Onegu
Palmar (0) - Zealos, ShoCkeyy,
TheShining(0) - Stutters
ShoCkeyy(2) - GlowingBear, Sciberbia, ObiWanShinobi, Oatsmaster
Onegu(1) - Qwerty
ObiWanShinobi(3) - Sciberbia, Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Qwerty, Qwerty
Vivax(8) - Oatsmaster, Damdred, Stutters, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Zealos, The Shining, Onegu, Glowing Bear, Qwerty

I know my own alignment so i'm coloring myself town, if you disagree that's just to bad I guess when the vig/scum shoot me tonight you will know for sure, vivax is confirmed town obviously.

Shining is town, he just can't fake his emotional posts as scum he always comes off as so dry and unemotional when he rolls scum. He doesn't have the experience to change his meta and his tone, he also comes across as super truthful and it seems whenever he is here he is at least trying to do something. Pick up the activity bud so you aren't a mislynch later, but this guy is town.

Glowing Bear I still have as town currently but the way that hes bashing me over the head for the Vivax lynch is incredibly bad. For example he lays all the blame on my feet but doesn't take responsibility for not pushing his lynch instead just keep asking people how is this person town and then sheeping onto someone that he doesn't have a town read on and previously was thinking that person could be scum. Also decided to vote with his scum read in Damdred instead of sticking to his guns and trying to push his preferred lynch in shockeyy through.

Let me be clear i'm still relatively sure that GB is town, his early read post and his reaction to other things in the thread has been extremely towny and has been extremely proactive as the game has went along instead of reactive. I'm pretty sure hes town honestly just has some problems that should be watched out for as the game goes along.


(took away the off wagons that had no votes to make it look a tad better)
ShoCkeyy(1) - GlowingBear, Sciberbia, ObiWanShinobi, Oatsmaster
ObiWanShinobi(3) - Sciberbia, Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Qwerty, Qwerty
Vivax(8) - Oatsmaster, Damdred, Stutters, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Zealos, The Shining, Onegu, Glowing Bear, Qwerty

I actually still think Palmar is kind of towny here, his Vivax case was really good no matter what people said about it. It showed pretty good thoughts, while his activity is lacking the thought process and attention to detail on the case was still pretty good. Really liked the thoughts even if he was wrong, initial push on me I still think was kind of towny even if people hate that thought.

I talked about obi earlier I just think hes putting himself in really bad situations that he wouldn't do if he was scum. I talked about it earlier in my filter.

ShoCkeyy(1) - GlowingBear, Sciberbia, ObiWanShinobi, Oatsmaster
ObiWanShinobi(3) - Sciberbia, Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Qwerty, Qwerty
Vivax(8) - Oatsmaster, Damdred, Stutters, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Zealos, The Shining, Onegu, Glowing Bear, Sciberia, Qwerty

I'm pretty sure that Scib is town, even if I disagree with some of the things hes saying currently I believe that hes trying to figure out the game, he has really good questions and follow up with those questions asking them until he gets an answer. His case on Obi was pretty good and showed really good thought process and didn't seem made up. We also had the same thoughts at certain points in the game and I liked that.

This leads me to where i'm going to pick out two scum.

Qwerty and Stutters are two scum.

Qwertys reasoning and push against Vivax is completely fake as I said earlier there is no reason at all to think Vivax is town from the mess of reads he posted at eod that he even said wasn't very good for not being able to reread. His postings are really missing for most of the day and overall they don't redeem his game play, his switch was scummy. His reasonings are somewhat shallow and at points it really doesn't seem like hes hunting scum.

His switch off of Vivax looks like TMI.

Stutters is a bit harder to understand as some of his stuff looks decent at first glance. The first thing is that he says he is going to be good as he will be motivated by assassination mafia. Which he is not here, he promises content but never really delivers on it.

Also if you read LightningStrikes analysis of Stutters meta (shout out to my boy ls) he does a really good job describing stutters meta in Ippo Mafia. You can see some of the parallels here bad cases to put scum on towny Shining with a terrible case. I also would like to point out that hes nto really taking any risks in his postings or ideas which he is prone to do as town but isn't really doing it here.

Also he is ok with lynching Qwerty but never really pushes him at all or mentions him again.

These two are the most likely scum atm.

ShoCkeyy(1) - GlowingBear, Sciberbia, ObiWanShinobi, Oatsmaster
ObiWanShinobi(3) - Sciberbia, Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Qwerty, [red]Qwerty[/red[
Vivax(8) - Oatsmaster, Damdred, [red]Stutters[/red[, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Zealos, The Shining, Onegu, Glowing Bear, Sciberia, Qwerty

I actually think that Shockeyy is kinda townish here. Even though I don't understand where hes coming from or going to i'd probably cop check him at some point after we take out stutters and qwerty, however its just to naïve I think to be scum here.

This leaves me with Zealos, Onegu and Oats for the last scum. Currently i'm going with Zealos I think, i'm torn on all of them oats shows some form of rationale thought, onegu is a bit try hard for my taste here but still contributes.

Zealos spends most of the day tunneled on me but brings me to null for no real reason that I see(?) he also has disappeared for the entire night not really interested in finding scum or giving his thoughts.

I'm sort of ok with a team of Zealos, Stutters and Qwerty currently.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 18:31 GMT
#757
Not even a comment on my post obi sadness
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 18:34 GMT
#758
Just so the thread knows I got warned for quoting the vote and putting the rest of the votes in it by our mods, so if they don't do updated vote counts don't try to post things and accidently miss a name or put a wrong number you might get mod killed. Don't want anyone to get mod killed for doing a voting analysis or anything that's untoward
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 19:55 GMT
#777
I think he's always a scary player but looks pretty towny
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 20:09 GMT
#792
Gah...why no believe me
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 20 2015 20:19 GMT
#802
Trfel is scum lol
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