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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 14:30 GMT
#1766
Lol Tictock ok I get. You are letting it come down to whether people believe me or that I made up all this stuff about Rels, that both me and Barakos are lying at the same time (!), and that we risk it as Mafia already crippled from , and that I reveal to you all this stuff about Barakos being my only possible partner way before you even think about it, so to make your town life easier? Ok.



plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 14:43 GMT
#1767
I start to believe my theory that Sulfu and Tictock being once again partners is not impossible, but he is uncced Mason so I can't do anything about it now. If we hammer Sulfurus tonight, he flips red and I RB him, town has another confirmed townie. If I don't die we just win.

In any case The whole RB claim who and what not, will be resolved for all you guys at N3. If I and Barakos are scum together we will die certainly at D4 and D5. Town risks like one mislynch for a sure fire victory? Why would you as town not do it something like this, but go for Tictocks insane idea of going against all the odds and lynch me tonight? Please.

Lol you see Tictock this is how to act townie, Barakos is like 100% townie here for suggesting this. But let's not lynch Barakos

plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 14:55 GMT
#1769
Tictock is like very scummy here. There is no way he thinks like a townie. He let off my as an easy mislynch as soon as I was confirmed 99% town by claiming being RBed. Then after I reveal I am the actual Town RB, he sets everything in motion to get me to die and to avoid lynching Sulfurus, as well as stating the wildest theories (with even my help) not considering the obvious just to get me lynched.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 15:44 GMT
#1773
Lol Tictock basically gave it away guys, why should he prefer me (the Goon) over Barakos (the God father), if in case I'm not the Goon, Barakos could still be a possible Godfather? Does he know something more than we do?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 16:07 GMT
#1774
I think it's like this. After knowing Bats cop claimed, and they killed Breshke the Mason. Mafia know that the setup could be only be Town RB, Cop, 1 Mason. I fucking have no clue about setups balance or something so I thought there was another Mason, that's why kept on being stubborn about this which lost me great credit in town eyes. Since Mafia knew that setup they just think no one can claim Mason anymore, so they just do it with a minimal risk since they their own setup. After having done this they try to argue for balance reason and slowly edging their way through discrediting the other claims in order to "restore balance".
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 16:11 GMT
#1775
But I am not sure, if there were really 2 Masons, 1 Town RB, and 1 Cop, could a 2 GF and 1 RB setup make up for it or even a 4th mafia? Can someone tell me? Like I don't want to tunnel on Tictock again here, if the setup of the above holds.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 16:21 GMT
#1778
ok sorry dis, I don't know where you are reading currently but please can you read the last 3 pages and give me an opinion of what you think?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 16:33 GMT
#1782
ok, no problem:

On May 26 2015 07:47 plotspot wrote:
Barakos: feels genuine. I believe what he says. He has an alerting but inoffensive way of expressing himself and most (if not all) his posts I can say: “hmm yeah I see the meaning behind it”. A possibly strange point which reinforce my town read on him is that he fantasizes about how scum QT looks like here. For me it’s hard to imagine scum would do that, I mean just for the thought of it at all. But here we have a townie imagining how things went in the scum QT and scott’s case is really a strange one, that leaves me wondering whether he betrayed his mates or whether they knew he had some time issues and just deal with it somehow.


On May 27 2015 17:09 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 16:59 boxerfred wrote:
Barakos, if you're so worried about not lynching inactives, why didn't you push on someone more actively and stayed in your lurker role?


I did?
I made a case against disformation, who was the other wagon D1 and I gave plenty reason to vote SL day two at the time, when the wagons were bunnies and sl. Then I returned to a thread, where all the votes were gone from SL and the wagons were BM and 27nb and when people were talking about doing voteswitches to sulfurus, I once again tried and said i would highly prefer a SL-lynch.

@SL: game was disney princess mafia...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/464494-newbie-lviii-disney-princess-mafia


After I skimmed through the game Barakos posted, I realize that my read on him earlier is not good anymore. It was based on mostly his tone. In the link he posted where he wins as the last remaining mafia, he clearly shows an impressive deceiving style, while I felt he has the same tone as here. That’s the reason that made me reconsider the situation, although I didn’t post about it in the thread before I RBed him.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 17:00 GMT
#1804
Guys this is a case about myself. With the best interest in town. It's like purely logical and technical, nothing about liking or disliking or guessing in it

Case 1: If you believe me. I am Town RB.

Case 2: If I lied. Then I am Mafia RB/Mafia Goon/GF together with Barokos as Godfather. Why? Because Barakos would have to lie about being roleblocked, because we RBed Breshke in case I am RB or we didn't RB Breshke because I am Goon/GF. The thing about Barakos is that he is surely GF if he is Mafia because he also received green-checks from Bats.

What happens if you don't vote for me?

Case 1: Extreme high chance of winning with me as RB and Bats as cop remaining.

Case 2: Sure fire victory after D4 and D5. If you find out there is a RB or not depending on whether I am RB or Goon or GF.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#1821
On May 30 2015 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
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On May 30 2015 02:20 boxerfred wrote:
How likely is it to have only one mason in the setup? Tictok's tunneling way too hard IMHO. However I still think he's the second mason but I want to point out every possibility.


breske would have let us no 0% chance theres only 1 mason


Okay I see for the first time why you guys are so sure about 2 masons... that's quite a good reasoning.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 19:11 GMT
#1849
batsnacks, if you think bunnies and sulfurus are the mafia pair, then lynching Sulfurus is the mechanically sounder play, because you actually copchecked bunnies. My opinion is that bunnies is just a lazy townie.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 19:32 GMT
#1853
Ok I understand so is Sulfurus scummyness < Bunnies's scummyness + 80% being confirmed town? It's 80% bats. It's like I I give you 10 people (5 scum, 5 townies), and you always read 8 out of 10 correct. If you can say yes, your vote should stay on Bunnies if not you should switch to Sulfurus.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 20:21 GMT
#1870
On May 30 2015 04:42 batsnacks wrote:
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On May 30 2015 04:32 plotspot wrote:
Ok I understand so is Sulfurus scummyness < Bunnies's scummyness + 80% being confirmed town? It's 80% bats. It's like I I give you 10 people (5 scum, 5 townies), and you always read 8 out of 10 correct. If you can say yes, your vote should stay on Bunnies if not you should switch to Sulfurus.


Are you SURE about the math on that? LOL


^^ Maybe another illustration. Bunnies plays in 100 games with a 4 VT 1 GF setup. She's mathematically 80 times VT and 20 times GF. You are asked to say what she was in these 100 games. What would you do? Would you estimate your abilities to better than than someone who has absolutely no idea and just goes for VT 100% of the time and still be 80% of the time correct? You are to compete with that person, he only wins when he has more correct "reads" than you. If you and him end up with the same points you win. What is your confidence level about the situation here?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 20:24 GMT
#1872
Remember also that we can always lynch bunnies later. I actually really like Sulfurus for his reads and nice personality. But Mafia is mafia. Math is math.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 21:52 GMT
#1916
Guys vote sulfurus.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 21:53 GMT
#1919
Bunnies is 80% town with the check. 80%.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 21:56 GMT
#1927
On May 30 2015 06:54 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:53 plotspot wrote:
Bunnies is 80% town with the check. 80%.


She is also the scummiest person around?


yes, but it's just math the safe to play like that. It's just bunnies personality why she feels scummy. I'd be like scummy too when you read my filters. But facts are just facts.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 21:57 GMT
#1930
we can always VOTE bunnies later guys. PLEASE.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 21:57 GMT
#1933
Like she can't escape with that kind of play if you ever want to lynch her.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 21:58 GMT
#1936
Lynch the person who we have no clue about. This gives town tons of info, it's just like that.
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