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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 10:45 GMT
#1488
Tiktok sheeped me on BM. Why did Tiktok sheep me on BM if I went after BM for "no reason"???
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 10:58 GMT
#1491
Uh I've read every post in this game at least twice. You voted bill for reasons that 27nb said first, and you voted after I started the wagon.

Going from sheeping 27nb and me to scum reading us both AFTER I claim cop with green check on nb makes absolutely no logical sense.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 11:07 GMT
#1494
On May 28 2015 20:04 Tictock wrote:
Ok fine, it's wrong 100% that bats could be anything but cop

This was like the least important thing I said in the last few pages and you all are honing in on it

What about the huge post I made looking at Sul are we just going to ignore that?


All you did was play by play his filter. It's like plot's chart in word form.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 11:13 GMT
#1496
Google what "TMI" means. Sulfur knowing bills alignmrnt before the flip is anything but townie. He has contributed less than anyone in this game he wasted his vote every day.

Like he calls BM mis lynch bait and then wastes his vote instead of helping the mislynch bait how does that make sense from a town pov?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 11:22 GMT
#1499
On May 28 2015 20:08 Tictock wrote:
What about the point I made about him calling BM mislynch bait?

What about the question WHAT MAKES HIM SCUM?


1 vote could have swung the balance yesterday if sulfur cares so much about BM being mis lynched, why didn't he save him?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 11:31 GMT
#1503
Town rb is as strong as cop if they can block kp. You can save 1 town and confirm 1 mafia in the same night that's huge. I am betting on 2 mafia rb and 1 goon.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 11:54 GMT
#1514
SL plot thinks you're the town rb. Please tell him you're not he won't listen to me.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 16:07 GMT
#1623
Why is plot flailing so hard?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 17:03 GMT
#1643
I think I'm just going to assume all the claims are legit. I'm the cop, Tiktok is the mason, plot is the rb. All town.

I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason.

I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that.

So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 18:09 GMT
#1661
On May 29 2015 03:02 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 02:03 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm just going to assume all the claims are legit. I'm the cop, Tiktok is the mason, plot is the rb. All town.

I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason.

I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that.

So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious.


who does that leave.

Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it


Yeah. Also, in sulfur's "reasons" post he said he would have been happy if either bill or bunnies got lynched, so it's strange how his vote wound up on neither of them. So maybe you're right. Either way I think he's a better lynch than 27nb today.

If all the claims are legit were left with barakos, SL, bunnies, disinfo, sulfur. I think at most 1 of barakos/27nb can be mafia because of the green checks.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 18:14 GMT
#1663
On May 29 2015 03:13 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
On May 29 2015 03:02 sicklucker wrote:
On May 29 2015 02:03 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm just going to assume all the claims are legit. I'm the cop, Tiktok is the mason, plot is the rb. All town.

I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason.

I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that.

So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious.


who does that leave.

Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it


Yeah. Also, in sulfur's "reasons" post he said he would have been happy if either bill or bunnies got lynched, so it's strange how his vote wound up on neither of them. So maybe you're right. Either way I think he's a better lynch than 27nb today.

If all the claims are legit were left with barakos, SL, bunnies, disinfo, sulfur. I think at most 1 of barakos/27nb can be mafia because of the green checks.


Did I miss something? boxerfred is still left, too.


Yeah him too.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#1665
On May 29 2015 03:16 disformation wrote:
So we just should look really hard at these people decide, on a list and lynch them.


My mind is made up on sulfur for today it would take something extraordinary to get me to switch my vote.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 18:48 GMT
#1666
My bat senses are saying lynch plots but the problem with bat senses is that they're usually wrong. The 4 blues in a 13 player game thing is very difficult to believe though.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 18:55 GMT
#1668
On May 29 2015 03:53 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
On May 29 2015 03:02 sicklucker wrote:
On May 29 2015 02:03 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm just going to assume all the claims are legit. I'm the cop, Tiktok is the mason, plot is the rb. All town.

I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason.

I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that.

So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious.


who does that leave.

Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it


Yeah. Also, in sulfur's "reasons" post he said he would have been happy if either bill or bunnies got lynched, so it's strange how his vote wound up on neither of them. So maybe you're right. Either way I think he's a better lynch than 27nb today.

If all the claims are legit were left with barakos, SL, bunnies, disinfo, sulfur. I think at most 1 of barakos/27nb can be mafia because of the green checks.


barakos is probably just town because he got roleblocked and kp went through. at least decreased


I agree that the rb decreases his mafia equity.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 20:47 GMT
#1676
On May 29 2015 04:54 Sulfurus wrote:
@Batsnacks What I will say is that the way I would describe my own play is that it's very passive; in most cases I am more concerned with getting my reads heard then pushing any particular lynch especially since I have been happy with the direction town has been going in until recently.

Is that scummy to you?


Who are you lynching today sulfur? Make your reads heard.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 21:01 GMT
#1678
On May 29 2015 05:51 plotspot wrote:
Bats, cakepie said we should talk about the balance of the game after the game is finished. Please don't assume something is fair or not fair for this or that setup.


Has nothing to do with fair or not fair a normal game with %40 of the town being blue is unusual. I don't think it's unreasonable to consider the unusual-ness of the number of blues in this game.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 21:19 GMT
#1683
@disinfo My d2 play made enough sense for you to vote with me for the same reasons I did.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 21:28 GMT
#1686
On May 29 2015 06:17 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 06:11 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 06:07 plotspot wrote:
Right I have no experience with it. If you think it's unusual, let's ask cakepie after the game why that is, do you agree?


That is basically my whole problem. The setup IS unusual no matter how I think about it. And if you or batsnacks are lying this stance might make town lose.


Are you sure you have checked all the possibilities (also from the side of mafia) and came to the conclusion that it is unusual? No one is lying we are simply unclaimed blue roles, that's all there is to it. We should avoid talking about, it can only benefit mafia considering CClaiming.


I would tell you this as either alignment:

4 blues in this setup is unusual.

Meaning it wouldn't be terrible for you to be at least slightly suspicious of my claim. I think tiktok is objectively the most likely to be telling the truth. If you don't understand why you can ask.

We should definitely -not- avoid talking about it. Mafia is never going to cc anything for the rest of the game it would be suicide at this point. If you don't understand why you can ask.

Here is every possibility:
  • plots is lying. The blue roles are mason-mason-cop.
  • batsnacks is lying. The blue roles are mason-mason-roleblocker
  • plots and batsnacks are lying. The blue roles are mason-mason.
  • plots and batsnacks are telling to truth. The blue roles are mason-mason-roleblocker-cop.

Assume anyone lying is mafia. Nothing else is possible.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 21:29 GMT
#1687
On May 29 2015 06:21 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:
@disinfo My d2 play made enough sense for you to vote with me for the same reasons I did.


Upon rereading it N2, I found it strange that your only interaction with bunnies was asking her for a read on barakos.


I am intentionally less useful at night, especially when I'm the cop. It makes sense if you think about it.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 21:37 GMT
#1691
On May 29 2015 06:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 06:29 batsnacks wrote:
On May 29 2015 06:21 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:
@disinfo My d2 play made enough sense for you to vote with me for the same reasons I did.


Upon rereading it N2, I found it strange that your only interaction with bunnies was asking her for a read on barakos.


I am intentionally less useful at night, especially when I'm the cop. It makes sense if you think about it.


meant to say "upon rereading your D2 behaviour during N2".


That was definitely not my only interaction with bunnies d2. I was the first person to vote bunnies. I started the wagon on her. I repeatedly asked her about bill. When she responded I followed up and asked for her comments on bill's big post that got everyone off his back. I asked her for reads on everyone.
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