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I said the lynch-list was based on feeling and i would reread. Basically it is there, so i don't get PMs again, that I have to vote till tomorro night.
Feelings I had, while making that list:
SL is making tons of sense the last few days, bunnies is just meh, boxer is completely under my radar and you were the first case i had, so I stuck to it. I said I'd be rereading all filters but today is sunday, TI5-Qualifiers, Viagame Housecup + LCS NA, so I just lurk around here and didn't do rereading.
Also note, that tt said, i wouldn't make any cases today, to not draw attention to me and cause discussion about me. That guy isn't even reading the thread, or else he would have noticed, that I was the first to cast a vote.
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On June 01 2015 14:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 12:49 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
I was, but stopped when people didn't want to listen to my ideas. Clearly town prefers to have no plan, than a solid case. Oh and good luck with plots, he's a dodgy one.
I'd like to lynch mafia, so even though my case is on plots RB role being fake, I'm fine going with Bara first. Idk why people want to keep the worst Town RB in history around, but w/e.
##Unvote
##Vote: Barakos
They both have Why Bara? He's a greencheck
After this post, I would be totally ok with lynching 27nb.
The simple fact, that she doesn't know about the mayor discussion we had for the last few days shows that she is completely detached from the thread.
Also this here:
On May 31 2015 09:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:
There also, tho unlikely, might not be a gf in the game, and both I and barakos are real checks.
Also, I think I might be done with the forum tonight, and will post more tomorrow.
Ticktock, your thinking was quite along with mine on plots being a mafia rb. I'd like to discuss more about your thinking on this later, after i read your 3 massive posts.
SL- what?
shows, that she isn't following the thread in the slightest, else she should know, that TT doesn't believe in a second roleblocker in the game.
She is basically dropping by, asking if nobody tries to find mafia, tries to start some kind of discussion, that will lead nowhere and drops off again. Seems totally uninterested in the actual topics of discussion in the thread, even the ones she pretends to be interested in.
##unvote
##vote: 27ninjabunnies
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some things I'd like to add, since I'm going to be on the road to my parents (my fathers birthday tomorrow) this afternoon and don't know, if I'll make it in time to write all this down before eod/eon and well - maybe I get lynched or killed.(I will not fight that lynch... if there are enough people, who think I'm a good lynch, then fine. have it your way, I'll be delighted to see tictock fall off his high horse, he thinks he is riding).
I reread 27nb, bf and disfo.
27nb seems the least involved and doesn't seem to be following the thread unless she needs to. I highly prefer her as lynch today before the other two.
In case she flips red, I think there is a connection between her and disfo. Disfo made the case on her D1 at a time, where she had enough time to defend. They voted each other from time to time but in the end disfos vote never was on her at EoD, although he twice had the chance to be the vote, that makes the difference. So this is something one has to look at, if she flips red.
An other thing, that happens, if she flips red, is that bf is cleared in my opinion, because both D2 and D3 he was on bunnies, although it was both times a close vote. Especially D3 he could have easily switched with the claimed cop but he didn't.
So - in case bunnies is red, bf is most likely green.
If she flips green, then well... shit. Votes mean nothing, since then both D2 and D3 were lynches between two townies and mafia couldn't care less, who to vote.
An other thing I would like to say:
In case I get lynched, I want you all to make as much fun of TT as you can. His read on plots and me is bad and you should make him feel bad. Still, TT is the 2nd mason and therefore confirmed town... so make fun of him, but don't vote him. Mafia probably won't lynch him either, since his reads are so bad, that it doesn't matter, that he is confirmed town, so try to work with him, because if I get lynched you are in lylo the next day.
If you have lynched me, plots is confirmed town in my eyes, because a setup rb,rb,goon doesn't make sense vs a single town cop. Just my opinion and that's also, why I am so sure of plots being town. I'd like to believe in a 2-rb-mafiateam, cause that would make bunnies and me confirmed, since there wouldn't be a gf in this setup, but I said it before and I'll repeat myself... I don't believe in a setup like this.
Last thing - on sl: I haven't reread sls filter indepth (too long for reading it at work). I think he is the worst lynch today, but in case that bunnies flips green, the scum-team imho is SL + disfo. His posting has decreased significnatly since breshke is dead (bats said, he posts less, once he feels safe) and mostly all of his reasons, why he calls himself confirmed town are weak at best (scotts filter, the votes on scott, etc...) but this is only in case bunnies flips green today.
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note: this post was made before tictocks case on me.
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ebwop: before i read tictocks case on me...
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I'm semi-around, will look into the thread from time to time... Don't expect me to react on the case on me, I said, I wouldn't fight getting lynched, since I almost got the feeling, town can't be saved unless tictock is brought off of his stupid case, so getting lynched is kinda my wincondition here... sad but true.
I am also completely frustrated with this game, since I don't see town winning with tictock tunneling and the only way to stop this tunnel is me dieing. (Or plots, but we can't have plots die, so rather me.)
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alright... back for the last few minutes...
SL casts a vote on someone with low probability of getting lyncht and then afks?
Rest is votes jumping between bf and bunnies, that about right?
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oh... and suddenly a wild sl-train appears out of nowhere
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On June 02 2015 06:42 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 06:41 Barakos wrote:
oh... and suddenly a wild sl-train appears out of nowhere *choo choo* ?
![[image loading]](http://travelwithgrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Sheldon-Cooper-Train.gif)
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Oh damn... Barakos plotspot scumteam confirmed.
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it's block disfo or boxer
and then lynch the shit out of them... easy game from here on
sl confirmed by voting for bunnies imho
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it's block disfo or boxer
and then lynch the shit out of them... easy game from here on
sl confirmed by voting for bunnies imho
Game just got playable again and tictock is hopefully eating his shit-case right now.
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the votes are 3v3... just saying... sls vote mattered.
And you suddenly look like shit for switching last moment.
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It's eithre you or disfo... if sl is scum he deserves victory for that bus.
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Also plots finally and undeniably confirmed town rb, like some cool dude named barakos told you from the start.
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disregard this about sl being confirmed... in the end the vote was between sl and bunnies... yet he still looks better than the rest of the unconfirmeds... or this is just me being pocketed because he actually treated tictock properly.
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On June 02 2015 16:35 Tictock wrote:My mind keeps drifting back to this point in the game tonight. Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 14:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 01 2015 12:49 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
I was, but stopped when people didn't want to listen to my ideas. Clearly town prefers to have no plan, than a solid case. Oh and good luck with plots, he's a dodgy one.
I'd like to lynch mafia, so even though my case is on plots RB role being fake, I'm fine going with Bara first. Idk why people want to keep the worst Town RB in history around, but w/e.
##Unvote
##Vote: Barakos
They both have Why Bara? He's a greencheck 27nb stayed FAR away from my theories when I was tunneled on plots, yet when I switch to Bara she is all over pushing my case. If both plots and Bara were town, wouldn't she have supported my WHOLE case? Instead she is only willing to talk to me about it when I suggest Bara as a target over plots. Call me tunneled if you want, but I will never stop asking questions. I don't believe this game ever has "auto-lynch" conditions (maybe in some rare cases when you get the right combo of blue roles), I'd much rather keep thinking than be lazy and try and find ways to play the game without reasoning. I mean... whats the point of the game if not to challenge our thinking?
this isn't even true... she actually asked you about the possibility of plots being a 2nd mafia-roleblocker somewhere in D4. You just didn't respond.
the only possibility of scum out of disfo, sl, and bf is if your claim is fake and there isn't a 2nd mason... which has happened before, but I doubt this will happen in a newbie-game, that's why everybody is so fing sure, that you are town despite your stupid tunneling on plots and me.
You have been proven wrong on one of your leading scumreads... your second scumread is confirmed town by setup, too... your theory of there not even being a 2nd roleblocker is shattered to pieces. You have basically been wrong for more than 3 days. Maybe, just maybe you should start thinking about your townreads.
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You are tunneling on plots that's not thinking, that's bending posts to your case. Same way you ignored the flaws in your predictions about what would happen N3/D4, same way you managed to see similarities between my game here and my scumgame few months ago, which read totally different... I could go on with that list.
If plots was mafia it is rb, rb, gf vs a single cop + masons. 3 roles, that render cop useless, out of which 1 doesn't even need to target the cop... no way, anybody lets such a setup get through balance-approval. If you don't believe me, look at the setups of some of the other 13p-games on this site, or maybe read some setup-generator-theroy here, to get an idea, what a balanced setup looks like. Will stop talking to you about this.
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We don't know, what cakepie used to create the setup. It just gives you an idea, of what balance could look like, so don't start searching for sks this game, please.
Our setup-seed would have been BBCCMMT
which gives roleblocker, masons and cop to town
the single T gives rb, gf, goon to mafia and adds a sk to the game
And single mason is different to innocent child, because innocent child gets announced at the start of the game.
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And our game used a d1 start. N0 start would mean, that there was an extra nightkill / copcheck / roleblock.
We had 1day preparation-time, because of the possibility, that there could be a sk in the game.
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