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It is a valid play, if you don't believe the claim..
Why he didn't believe it, isn't on me but I can see the mindset, the comes from.
And a world with two Mafia-rbs would be nice, cause this confirms you and me, cause there is no RB RB GF vs Town-Cop + Masons, but I am afraid, this is not the world we live in.
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you don't deal with tictock...
if he tries to lynch you again, just ignore him... I'll do the same. Focus on important stuff and get your mind on the guys, that actually could be mafia. If tictock actually starts this bs again, we just make sl fight him.
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On May 31 2015 07:38 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2015 07:24 Barakos wrote: ok... mafia from least likely to most likely only based on claims:
boxerfred, disfo, sl (no claims, no checks) ninjabunnies, greencheck, but possible godfather) barakos (greencheck, but possible godfather; roleblocked in a night with a scum-nightkill) plotspots (roleblocker, with one confirmed mafia-roleblocker and no other town powerroles) tictock (mason, that has gone insane over losing his mason-partner)
mafia based on feeling: disfo 27nb bf sl
would lynch down that list, depending I don't find anything completely spectacular in the filters
for now
##vote: disformation Wait, this is my list from D2. I started the Dis/SL/bunnies stuff when everyone was on Sulf. Can you explain to me how the RB that you had on to you speaks for you not being GF? for now, too: ##vote: disformation
mathematical technicality... I was blocked on a night, where a kill happend... one of mafia has to deliver the kill. So there is a chance, that if I was mafia, I would have delivered the kill, which would not have happened, if I was blocked... It's not much, but makes me "more green" than bunnies.
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tictock is mason. there is no "if he is mason" focus on bf, sl, disfo and if you got much time, then bunnies an me... those are the ones that actually can be mafia. the first three statistically more ofthen than bunnies an me.
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I'll be off for tonight... because after sad comes mad. -.-' ty for playing voice of reason, sl.
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Actually this plan is perfect... let's lynch someone that isn't plotspot today. Then at night you make him lynch one of the other possible lynch-candidates... tictock may choose. Then mafia has to either lynch that guy to discredit plotspot or lynch plotspot which will also confirm him as town rb and tictock as conductor of the crazy train driving through the longest tunnel in history...
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ebwop: At night you make him block...
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And sl isn't supporting your ideas, cause he applies logic and thinking to this game.
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On May 31 2015 08:23 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2015 08:13 sicklucker wrote: Tictock ok so your saying mafia does not have a rb left. So far this story checks out because the rb was used on bats/rels who died. So why dont we just leave plots alone and he can rb you or someone you trust. Then they can confirm he was roleblocked.
If hes mafia claiming roleblock without being able to roleblock hes insane. Because eventually his story wont check out because no ones reporting being roleblocked. Flawed logic. Tictocks: "please block me, I trust myself." Tictocks gets killed. Tictocks: "please block SL, I trust him." SL gets killed. So..?
still this is perfect, because that way, you can control mafia-nightkills
you just make plots block suspects.
Then mafia either kills the suspects or you get plots confirmed.
and if plots blocks mafia and mafia denies being blocked, you kill plots, see he was the rb and found yourself a mafia.
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[QUOTE]On May 31 2015 08:37 boxerfred wrote: [QUOTE]On May 31 2015 08:16 Barakos wrote: I'd love to know whether you didn't see the flawed logic or chose to ignore it. You're strengthening ticktocks case by that. [/QUOTE] that gif wasn't directed at you.
You got 2 posts explainig, why it is a good thing, if we can control mafia-kp. 1 from sl and 1 from me.
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On May 31 2015 08:40 boxerfred wrote: EBWOP: Barakos' logic is fine. Still it's him vs. bunnies as GF.
Also other possible godfathers: sl, disfo, you.
Just because bunnies and I were greenchecked, doesn't mean one of us has to be the gf... gf might also not have been checked... I'm sure you know this, but your sentence sounds like only bunnies or I could be gf and if one isn't, then the other has to be, which is not the case.
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@27nb:
he doesn't think plots is rb he denies that there is a 2nd rb in the game and his theory is that I am gf and plots is goon, claiming all this stuff to make me look good/innocent.
His game-setup therefore is gf, rb, goon vs cop + 2 masons, which he thinks is fine for balance. (two roles rendering a cop useless, one of them even without actively targeting the cop vs only a cop and no other active roles to back him up)
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Please don't go for plots today. Let him confirm himself through a block this night, we explained, why it is fine, to block into the last few suspects, and do something productive today, that doesn't get our roleblocker killed. Please. Step back from your theory and do something, that actually helps... Just because it is exciting to call fakeclaims doesn't mean it allways is a fakeclaim. Especially, when it is backed up by a greencheck. Sometimes a claim is just true... as boring as it is. And sometimes newbies think funny things and have weird reasons... because they are noobs.
You are so totally wrong with this theroy that it hurts whole town. Same as bats warned me, as I was suspecting . It's cool to call people out on stuff they do, but you seriously need to step back and reconsider from time to time. This stupid tunnel on the rb hurts the whole game, cause you are drawing attention to the wrong spots...
You wrote in your predictions about what we would do, that we would try to discredit you and try to keep the whole day about this arguement.. You were wrong in 3 out of 4 points... plots and I never tried to discredit you at night, i never doubted your claim and plots also seems to start to believe it, which is good. plus we never were argueing - in fact we were thinking about how to stop this arguement from happening before you joined the thread and blew this whole arguement wide open again...
Just take a step back, reconsider and stop going after the only bluerole we have left.
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And now that I see this vote...
VOTE FUCKING ME AND NOT THE RB
Even if you don't think you are wrong, you might be and in that case you just killed the only blue-role. GJ
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You are so dead set on your theory that you don't even take into consideration that you might be wrong or what?
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I'll repeat this again, just so you understand, what you are doing, because I don't think you are.
You are lynching your assumed goon. When your goon flips blue, you got a claimed VT. And killed the RB.
The right play in your theory is to lynch your assumed GF. Because one i flip green, you have a RB confirmed.
In the strange world you are living in, it is the right play to lynch me and not plots BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE WRONG WITH YOUR THEORY.
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and becaue i am being nitpicked...
i meant the only acutally usefull blue. Because he can block stuff and thing...
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plots: Dont doubt tictock is town... i said it again. he is confirmed town.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
he is throwing hard, but he is still town. Period. we had this one hour ago and just because he sticks to his push doesnt make him mafia... it makes him dumb town.
TIctock: why believe it? Because a greenchecked guy tells you he has been blocked. If you don't believe this story, you start with lynching the greenchecked, who backs the story up. you don't lynch the claimed rb.
If you don't see this logic and act after it, I will not work with you for the rest of the game.
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i wrote this before and you even quoted me on it.
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Just to make this clear... lynching me here is a bad play, cause i have a greencheck on me and was blocked on a night of a kill and am town...
Lynching me is the correct play, if you think i am scum and support your roleblock-fakeclaim with my fakeclaim of being blocked.
We can confirm you on so many other ways, that there is no reason for sane people to lynch me. Lynching me just is the right play for tictock, cause he lives in lala-land.
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